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#21 OFFLINE   Fatah-Momin

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 03:02 AM

Shiaoon kay han Mutah ko mukadus samja jata hai, Shia apney ghar key khawateen ko mutah key targeeb day tay hein. Jo Shia jitnay mutah karta hai ous ka darja utna bulund hota hai, mard ya khatoon. Hum to shiaoon ko dua day tay hein kay woh Shia aurtoon kay sathay imamoon key blessing kay sath mutah kartay rahein.

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 06:42 AM

View Posthuma2, on Oct 8 2009, 11:53 PM, said:

meri apni nazar me bhi mutta ik na passandeeda amal ha lakin ik bat muje samajh nahi ati k jub quran mutta k mamle me haq mahr ko disscuss ker raha ha or keh raha ha k jub tum mutta karo to un ko haq mahr dediya karo  to is se to yahi pata chalta ha k mutta ko jaiz rishta qarar dediya gaya quran ki roo se lakin ap k yahan kaha jata ha k bad me rasool SAW ne is ki mumaniat ker di lakin quran is ki mumaniat per kiun khamoosh raha jub k pehle us ko disscuss ker chuka tha to ab us k khilaf kiun khamosh ha or agar mutta(zana ) jese amal ki mumaniat per hukme rasool hi kafi tha to sharab ,jooaa,sood jese mamlat ki nafi me ayat kiun utri un k liye bhi hukm e rasool hi kafi hona chahia tha .quran ki is itne bare gunnah ki nafi per khamoshi mere liye herat kada ha kiun k me khud mutta k sakht khilaf hoon

Yeh to bohot achche baat he k tum MUTAH ko na-pasand krte ho.. Me yeh hi sochta hun k koi ek neek or saaf dimag ki larkia is ko kaise pasand kr sakte he..!


Or rahi baat MUTAH ki AYAT Quran me.. to me apko batau ALLAH ne kabhi QUran me MUTAH ko halal nahi kiya..

Me janta hun shia Quran ki 4:24 ayat ko MUTAH ki ayat kehte he.. magar yeh sach nahi,, yeh ayat nikah (permanent marriage) se relate he bcoz lafz "istmta'" sirf sexual pleasure k liay hi use nahi hota jo k mutah ka asal funda he.. Quran se hi yeh baat proved he..



Al-Rāzī has stated in his explanation of this specific part of the verse is:


قوله تعالى فما استمتعتم به منهن فآتوهن أجورهن فريضة

فيه مسائل المسألة الأولى الاستمتاع في اللغة الانتفاع وكل ما انتفع به فهو متاع يقال استمتع الرجل بولده ويقال فيمن مات في زمان شبابه لم يتمتع بشبابه قال تعالى ربنا استمتع بعضنا ببعض وقال أذهبتم طيباتكم في حياتكم الدنيا واستمتعتم بها يعني تعجلتم الانتفاع بها وقال فاستمتعتم بخلاقكم يعني بحظكم ونصيبكم من الدنيا وفي قوله فما استمتعتم به منهن وجهان الأول فما استمتعتم به من المنكوحات من جماع أو عقد عليهن فآتوهن أجورهن عليه ثم أسقط الراجع إلى ما لعدم الالتباس كقوله ان ذلك لمن عزم الأمور فأسقط منه والثاني أن يكون ما في قوله ما وراء ذلكم بمعنى النساء ومن في قوله منهن للتبعيض والضمير في قوله به راجع إلى لفظ ما لأنه واحد في اللفظ وفي قوله فأتوهن أجورهن إلى معنى ما لأنه جمع في المعنى وقوله أجورهن أي مهورهن قال تعالى ومن لم يستطع منكم طولا إلى قوله فانكحوهن باذن أهلهن وآتوهن أجورهن وهي المهور وكذا قوله فآتوهن أجورهن ههنا وقال تعالى في آية أخرى لا جناح عليكم أن تنكحوهن إذا آتيتموهن أجورهن وإنما سمي المهر أجرا لأنه بدل المنافع وليس ببدل من الأعيان كما سمي بدل منافع الدار والدابة أجرا والله أعلم


“His, the Exalted’s statement: ‘So, to those of them whose company you have enjoyed, give their dues (dower) as obligated.’

There are some issues concerning this verse:

First issue:

‘Enjoyment’ [istimtā`] linguistically means to gain benefit. All that is benefited from, is ‘property’ [matā`]. It is said: ‘The man benefited [istamta`] from his child,’ and it is said about someone who died in his adolescence: ‘He did not benefit [yatamatta`] from his youth.’


He, the Exalted, has said: ‘Our Lord, some of us have benefited [istamta`] from others…’ [8:128], and He said: ‘You have consumed your good things in your worldly life, and have enjoyed [istamta`tum] them.’ [46:20]: which means: you have been hasty in benefiting from them. He (also) said: ‘So you enjoyed [istamta`tum] your share…’ [9:69]: which means: (you benefited) from your portion and your destined share from the world.


There are two objectives in His statement: ‘So, to those of them whose company you have enjoyed’:


First: So to the married women [al-mankūĥāt] whose company you have enjoyed from either intercourse or contract with them, give them their dues for that; then the attributable to ‘those’ [mā] was dropped to counteract ambiguity. Like it was dropped from His statement: ‘It is, of course, one of the courageous conducts.’ [42:43]


Second: The ‘those’ [mā] in His statement will be: ‘…all, except these’ [4:24] in the meaning of women, and ‘of’ [min] in His statement ‘…of them…’ [4:24] is for portioning. The personal pronoun in His statement: ‘bihi’ [4:24] is attributable to the word ‘those’ [mā], for it is one in wording, and in His statement ‘give their dues…’ [4:24] to the meaning of ‘those’ [mā], for it is plural in meaning.


His statement: ‘their dues’ [4:24]: meaning: their dowers. He, the Exalted, has said: ‘If one cannot afford to marry…’ [4:24] to ‘So marry them with the permission of their masters, and give them their dues,…’ [4:25] and these are the dowers. The same is His statement ‘give their dues…’ [4:24] here. He, the Exalted, has stated in another verse: ‘There is no sin for you if you marry them, when you give them their dowers.’ [60:10]. Verily, the dower was called ‘due’ because it is a replacement of beneficial services, not of objects, just as the replacement of the beneficial services of a house or a riding animal.
Mafātīĥ al-Ghayb [al-Tafsīr al-Kabīr], of Fakhr al-Dīn al-Rāzī (d. 606), volume 10, page 49-50 [Beirut]




This explanation clearly shows that according to al-Rāzī this verse does not refer to temporary marriage because he considers it to be referring to married women [mankūĥāt] and their dower to be the same as the dower mentioned in the verses about marriage. His position is further confirmed from his counting of women mentioned in this verse under the fourth category of divorced women in the same work.


He states:

القسم الرابع من المطلقات التي تكون مدخولا بها ولكن لا يكون مفروضا لها وحكم هذا القسم مذكور في قوله فما استمتعتم به منهن فآتوهن أجورهن


“The fourth category of divorced women [muţallaqāt]: Those (women) who are entered into but are not obliged. The ruling of this category is mentioned in His, the Exalted’s statement: ‘So, to those of them whose company you have enjoyed.’ [4:24]”

Mafātīĥ al-Ghayb [al-Tafsīr al-Kabīr], of Fakhr al-Dīn al-Rāzī (d. 606), volume 6, page 146 [Beirut]

Whereas it is known that in the temporary marriage disseminated by Ithnā’ `Asharīs, the women are neither counted among the four married women, nor do they get divorced.


As it is related in Shī`ī texts that the 5th infallible Imām, Muĥammad al-Bāqir, has said about a woman in temporary marriage:


ليست من الأربع لأنها لا تطلق ولا ترث وإنما هي مستأجرة

“She is not from the four (married women) because neither does she get divorced, nor does she inherit. Indeed, she is a rented woman.”
al-Kāfī, of Abū Ja`far al-Kulaynī (d. 329), volume 5, page 451 [Tehran]

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 06:15 AM

Proof of Mutah on Eid-e-Ghadeer Night

Mutah Shia mazhab mein jaiz hay aur Shia Eid-e-Ghadeer ke raat to ijtamee Mutah kurtay hain.Suboot kay leyay aik shia alim ka yeah khut dekhyaee, jis mein wo shia ko mutah ke targeeb day raha hay.Is kay ilawa mutah.com shia ke website bhee daikheyay

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 05:23 PM

View PostASHIQ AY SAHABA, on Sep 1 2009, 04:32 AM, said:

SALAM-O-WALIKUM.......

MAIN NAY SUNA HAY KAY ASHORA KE RAT KO YAH SHIAY(KAFIR) SARAY IK KAMRAY MAAIN JAMA HO KER LIGHT BAND KER KAY ............... AGAY AP LOGON KO PAATH CHAL JANA CAHI AY..........

YAH SAHI BAT HAY YAH PROPOGANDA HAY....

Haan tum ne bilkul theek suna hey lakin when par ane wali sari ortain suni hoti hain jo 3, 4 hazar main mil jati hain. yaqeen nahin ata to ghat ja kar apnie ammi ka chati main chupaya howa purs dekh lena.

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Posted 26 February 2010 - 02:54 AM

View PostSalman Amin, on Feb 25 2010, 11:23 PM, said:

Haan tum ne bilkul theek suna hey lakin when par ane wali sari ortain suni hoti hain jo 3, 4 hazar main mil jati hain. yaqeen nahin ata to ghat ja kar apnie ammi ka chati main chupaya howa purs dekh lena.
Bill-kul theek kaih rahay ho Shia aurtein Mutah ka Sun kar aati hein, kay shaid koi Imam bara mein Shia admi Mard mil ja-aye. Bicharee Na umeed he wapis chalee jateen hein. Shia mein aj taq koi Mard paida nahee ho-wa.

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Posted 26 February 2010 - 07:29 PM

Jahalat ka Koee Ilaaj nahin hai. Yae standard hai iss forum ka lolz. Let me control my laughter.

"KISSEE KAE  JHOTA (LIAR) HONAE KAE LIYAE ITNA KAFEE HAI KAE WOE SUNEE SUNAYEE BAAT KO AGAE KAR DAE" [HADITH E RASOOL E MAQBOOL S.A.W.A.W].

Iss kae baad jo marzee kehtae jao mujhae koee farq nahin parta.
عدة من أصحابنا، عن أحمد بن محمد، عن ابن فضال، عن علي بن عقبة، عن أبيه قال: سمعت أبا عبدالله عليه السلام يقول: اجعلوا أمركم لله، ولا تجعلوه للناس فإنه ما كان لله فهو لله، وما كان للناس فلا يصعد إلى الله، ولا تخاصموا الناس لدينكم فإن المخاصمة ممرضة للقلب، إن الله تعالى قال لنبيه صلى الله عليه وآله: " إنك لا تهدي من أحببت ولكن الله يهدي من يشاء " وقال: " أفأنت تكره الناس حتى يكونوا مؤمنين " ذروا الناس فإن الناس أخذوا عن الناس وإنكم أخذتم عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله، إني سمعت أبي عليه السلام يقول: إن الله عزوجل إذا كتب على عبد أن يدخل في هذا الامر كان أسرع إليه من الطير إلى وكره.

A number of our companions from Ahmad b. Muhammad from ibn Faddal from Ali b. ‘Uqba from his father. He said: I heard Abu ‘Abdallah (عليه السلام) saying: Make your affair for Allah and do not make it for the people. Whatever is for Allah then it is for Allah. And whatever is for people will not ascend to Allah. Do not quarrel with the people about your religion because quarreling sickens the heart. Allah عزوجل said to His Prophet صلى الله عليه وآله “Verily you do not guide whomever you love, but Allah guides whomever He wants” (28:56). “Would you compel the people until they be believers?" (10:99). Leave the people alone because the people have taken from people and you have taken from the Messenger of Allahصلى الله عليه وآله . I heard my father (عليه السلام) saying, "When Allah عزوجل writes for a servant to enter in this affair he will be faster to it than the bird to its nest." (al-Kafi)

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Posted 27 February 2010 - 08:47 AM

View PostMuhammad_Bin_AbuBakr, on Feb 27 2010, 12:29 AM, said:

Jahalat ka Koee Ilaaj nahin hai. Yae standard hai iss forum ka lolz. Let me control my laughter.

"KISSEE KAE JHOTA (LIAR) HONAE KAE LIYAE ITNA KAFEE HAI KAE WOE SUNEE SUNAYEE BAAT KO AGAE KAR DAE" [HADITH E RASOOL E MAQBOOL S.A.W.A.W].

Iss kae baad jo marzee kehtae jao mujhae koee farq nahin parta.

janab jahil ham hain yah tum logon ka yah deen jis kay baray main parh ker lag ta hay kay tom and jerry ki kesay episode ki story parahay haun.yar yah to yahodion kay mazhab main be nahi hay kay apni ma ya bahain kay sath zinah karo.

or tum jo batain apni majlis main suntay ho woh tumharay imam dalil kay sath bolta haykabi kisi imam nahi bola yah osol nagis ki hay yah rijal kashi ki hay tum apnay hadiths ki sihat sabit karo.kay tumharay hain sahih hadthis kis tar ha lijati hay.

Edited by ASHIQ AY SAHABA, 27 February 2010 - 08:54 AM.


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Posted 27 February 2010 - 04:28 PM

View PostASHIQ AY SAHABA, on Feb 27 2010, 01:47 PM, said:

janab jahil ham hain yah tum logon ka yah deen jis kay baray main parh ker lag ta hay kay tom and jerry ki kesay episode ki story parahay haun.yar yah to yahodion kay mazhab main be nahi hay kay apni ma ya bahain kay sath zinah karo.

or tum jo batain apni majlis main suntay ho woh tumharay imam dalil kay sath bolta haykabi kisi imam nahi bola yah osol nagis ki hay yah rijal kashi ki hay tum apnay hadiths ki sihat sabit karo.kay tumharay hain sahih hadthis kis tar ha lijati hay.


Aap kee tabiyat nasaaz lagtee hai jiss sae janab kae zehan per koee bohat burra asar para hai. Mujhae afsoos hota hai kae Shia dushmanee main tum logg ikhlaqiyaat kee iss griwat taq pohanch gayae hoe kae jhoot iftira dhoka bazee orr bae jaa ilzamatt laganae sae bhee guraiz nahin kartae.

"AGAR JO KUCH TUM NAE MATAM KEE RAAT YA GHADEER KEE RAAT KA ILZAAM
HAMM PER LAGAYA HAI AGAR WOE SACH HAI TOE HAMM PER ALLAH USS KAE RASOOL (SAWAW) KEE LANAT ORR AGAR YAE SABB JHOOT ORR IFTIRA HAI TOE TUM PER ALLAH ORR USS KAE RASOOL (SAWAW) KEE LANAT HO"

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عدة من أصحابنا، عن أحمد بن محمد، عن ابن فضال، عن علي بن عقبة، عن أبيه قال: سمعت أبا عبدالله عليه السلام يقول: اجعلوا أمركم لله، ولا تجعلوه للناس فإنه ما كان لله فهو لله، وما كان للناس فلا يصعد إلى الله، ولا تخاصموا الناس لدينكم فإن المخاصمة ممرضة للقلب، إن الله تعالى قال لنبيه صلى الله عليه وآله: " إنك لا تهدي من أحببت ولكن الله يهدي من يشاء " وقال: " أفأنت تكره الناس حتى يكونوا مؤمنين " ذروا الناس فإن الناس أخذوا عن الناس وإنكم أخذتم عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله، إني سمعت أبي عليه السلام يقول: إن الله عزوجل إذا كتب على عبد أن يدخل في هذا الامر كان أسرع إليه من الطير إلى وكره.

A number of our companions from Ahmad b. Muhammad from ibn Faddal from Ali b. ‘Uqba from his father. He said: I heard Abu ‘Abdallah (عليه السلام) saying: Make your affair for Allah and do not make it for the people. Whatever is for Allah then it is for Allah. And whatever is for people will not ascend to Allah. Do not quarrel with the people about your religion because quarreling sickens the heart. Allah عزوجل said to His Prophet صلى الله عليه وآله “Verily you do not guide whomever you love, but Allah guides whomever He wants” (28:56). “Would you compel the people until they be believers?" (10:99). Leave the people alone because the people have taken from people and you have taken from the Messenger of Allahصلى الله عليه وآله . I heard my father (عليه السلام) saying, "When Allah عزوجل writes for a servant to enter in this affair he will be faster to it than the bird to its nest." (al-Kafi)

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Posted 27 February 2010 - 05:57 PM

View PostASHIQ AY SAHABA, on Sep 1 2009, 03:32 AM, said:

SALAM-O-WALIKUM.......

MAIN NAY SUNA HAY KAY ASHORA KE RAT KO YAH SHIAY(KAFIR) SARAY IK KAMRAY MAAIN JAMA HO KER LIGHT BAND KER KAY ............... AGAY AP LOGON KO PAATH CHAL JANA CAHI AY..........

YAH SAHI BAT HAY YAH PROPOGANDA HAY....
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SALAM TO U PEOPLE welleik dafa yehi ques mujh say eik dost nay kia tha k kia hota hai us raat tou reply yeh tha K APNI SIS KO BHEJ AUR SUBAH US SAY POCH LENA KIA HOTA HAI. i think this will help you becoz tum hamari tou mano gay nahi so send ur sis and if u want then mom or daughter are also welcome becoz we will respect them as you respect.
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i think it solves the matter

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Posted 27 February 2010 - 07:23 PM

shia ka mazhab sirf TAKYA ha tum en say jetna pocho gaa .ya utna TAKKYA karan , such kabhee bhee nahe bolan ga.bhans kay aagaya been maat bajao .

es hee forum par kuch sawal keya thaa ma na jes ka jawab un kay sary Imam bhee nahe daay saktay,



kia kabhee NABI PAK na MUTA kia ? matam kia ? takya kia ?
kia kabhee NABI PAK na Eid e gadeer manai?
kia kabhee H. ALI na muta kia ? matam kia ? takya kia ?
kia kabhee H. HASSAN na muta kia ?? matam kia takya kia?
kia kabhee H. HUSAIN na muta kia ? mata kia takya kia?
kia kabhee kese Ahlay bat na muta kia ? mata kia takya kia ?
kia aap logun na Quran ma Sherk nahe kia ?
kia iran ma aap logun na kaba nahe banaya?
kia Nabi Pak Akhire NABI han ?
AS. to NABUN kay sath lagta ha too 12 imam bhee NauzbAllah Nabi han??
12 imam muta say han ya nikka saa? ma kay paat ma ketnay moth rahay? un ke ma ensan thee ya jeen thee?
kia boltay ho 12 imam sahe Quran la kar aayan ga? kia es ka zekar Quran ma ha ?
too bhai woo waqat too qayamat ka ho ga aap ke nazar ma too kia fayda asay quran ka joo 1400 sal bad aaya . or 1400 sal ma ketay mulim es dunya saa Wafat paa chukay han jenhonay Quran par amal nahe keya kia woo dozakh ma jayan ga becoz of your 12 imam ? jo pora Quran la kar Akaly parh rahay Cav ma ?
es Bat say inkar too nahe kartay kay Allah na wada kia ha Quran ke hefazat ka or Kaba kee Hefazat ka ? tum log Quran bhee apna new banaya ha or Kaba bhee.
kia es bat say inkar kartay ho kay koi ibna saba nahe thaa? aap ke apne books ma ha kay us ko zenda aag ka jala deya thaa es ke waja kia thee zenda jalanay ke?
ap kay ek aalim ke ma nay youtube par suna wo mardud bol raha thaa NauzbiAllah. Ali na hotay to Nabi ke nabuwat bhee na hote kia karty rahay Nabi 40 sal tak ??????? yar Koi khof aa khuda ha kay nahe ? duniya ma koi bhee mazhab bata do jo takya karta ho or muta karta ho Akhrat ka bhee socho kia kia bakwas kar jatay ho tum log .
ya sub hee karna ha too ya mat bolo hum muslim han .

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past mat karna jawab sahe say dana number kay sath
past mat karna








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Posted 12 April 2010 - 04:58 AM

View PostMuhammad Hadi, on 20 September 2009 - 04:39 PM, said:

QUOTE (Fatah-Momin @ Sep 1 2009, 05:07 AM) I heard they do this on nite of "Eid Ghadeer" to celebrate nomination of the imam. It is called Group Mutah.


khuda tumhain hidayat dae. Mae nae aaj tak kabhi yaahan is forum pae aap logo k baray mae esi bae hayai wali baat nahi ki. Tohmat bund karo. hum log esaa kuch nahin kartay. lekin mutaah hamaray yahn jaaiz hai. sirf mutaah ki baat kar raha hun mae! aap nae jo likha hai us ki baat nahin kar raha. Mutaah ko RASOOL S.A.W nae jaaaz qarar dia tha jisay baad mae aap k khalifa umar nae haram kar dia! Apni tareekh ko khankhalo. Himmat hai to aao manazra karo! Yes or no?

ya ali madad.
ap logo k pas koi prove nai hota sub bata apne traf sa krta ho na ap k quran ak na koi hadees ur non muslim ok

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Posted 12 April 2010 - 05:02 AM

View PostAhlabait k khadim, on 12 April 2010 - 04:58 AM, said:

ya ali madad.
ap logo k pas koi prove nai hota sub bata apne traf sa krta ho na ap k quran ak na koi hadees ur non muslim ok

or agr hmara 4 ameer ul mumineen k bara ma kuch glat kha or gustakhi ke to sara shia hazrat ke band baja danga himmat ha tu kuch bol k dhako .... mula ali tm logo sa parashan tha tm logo na apna faida k lia bs ha ma han ke or jung k time pa pecha hat jata tha u r most crupeted shia i heat u .

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 11:05 PM

View PostThe Truth, on 27 February 2010 - 05:57 PM, said:

QUOTE (ASHIQ AY SAHABA @ Sep 1 2009, 03:32 AM) SALAM-O-WALIKUM.......

MAIN NAY SUNA HAY KAY ASHORA KE RAT KO YAH SHIAY(KAFIR) SARAY IK KAMRAY MAAIN JAMA HO KER LIGHT BAND KER KAY ............... AGAY AP LOGON KO PAATH CHAL JANA CAHI AY..........

YAH SAHI BAT HAY YAH PROPOGANDA HAY....ds
SALAM TO U PEOPLE welleik dafa yehi ques mujh say eik dost nay kia tha k kia hota hai us raat tou reply yeh tha K APNI SIS KO BHEJ AUR SUBAH US SAY POCH LENA KIA HOTA HAI. i think this will help you becoz tum hamari tou mano gay nahi so send ur sis and if u want then mom or daughter are also welcome becoz we will respect them as you respect.
Thanks
i think it solves the matter

Allah hafiz

yar hamari ourton ko gahr say bahir jana mana hay al bata mard hazrat shikar ki talash main khom rahay hotay hain agher bray maherbani ap mayra interview apni baji say set kerwa dain to main ap ka bohat shuker kuzar honga main rat ko he result out ker donga kay ashora ki rat ko kia hota hay video proof kay sath.

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 11:22 PM

View PostThe Truth, on 27 February 2010 - 05:57 PM, said:

QUOTE (ASHIQ AY SAHABA @ Sep 1 2009, 03:32 AM) SALAM-O-WALIKUM.......

MAIN NAY SUNA HAY KAY ASHORA KE RAT KO YAH SHIAY(KAFIR) SARAY IK KAMRAY MAAIN JAMA HO KER LIGHT BAND KER KAY ............... AGAY AP LOGON KO PAATH CHAL JANA CAHI AY..........

YAH SAHI BAT HAY YAH PROPOGANDA HAY....ds
SALAM TO U PEOPLE welleik dafa yehi ques mujh say eik dost nay kia tha k kia hota hai us raat tou reply yeh tha K APNI SIS KO BHEJ AUR SUBAH US SAY POCH LENA KIA HOTA HAI. i think this will help you becoz tum hamari tou mano gay nahi so send ur sis and if u want then mom or daughter are also welcome becoz we will respect them as you respect.
Thanks
i think it solves the matter

Allah hafiz


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Posted 15 April 2010 - 09:10 AM

Nahi Janab ye aik Propaganda hi...kiu k jub Hazrat Ali ko masjid e kofa main shaheed kiya gaya tu os waqt

ye khaber jub mawia k darbar main sunai gai k Hazart Ali (as) Masjid main shaheed ho gay tu waha ki awam jo k mawia k propaganday ki wajha se Imam Ali (as) ko muslaman hi nahi samahjthi thi tu herat se phochny lagy k kiya Ali namaz bhi parrhty thy... tu janab ye aik propaganda jo mawaiya (maloon) ne apny zamany me start kiya tha wo ab bhi jari hi.. lehaza Haq k sath ho jain kiu ka Rasool (saww) ka farman hi k al haqu ma ali wa ali o maal haq (haq ali k sath hi or ali haq k sath)-

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Posted 16 April 2010 - 03:42 AM

View Postpeacegenie, on 22 February 2010 - 06:15 AM, said:

Proof of Mutah on Eid-e-Ghadeer Night

Mutah Shia mazhab mein jaiz hay aur Shia Eid-e-Ghadeer ke raat to ijtamee Mutah kurtay hain.Suboot kay leyay aik shia alim ka yeah khut dekhyaee, jis mein wo shia ko mutah ke targeeb day raha hay.Is kay ilawa mutah.com shia ke website bhee daikheyay

If something is part of yours religion then one should accept it and do it as Shia accept Muta to be legal marriage, but problem is that they accept it to be part of their religion but when it comes to do it then I know what is their reaction....I am from north Pakistan,where i come from there are 30% Shias,trust me if some one go and ask the daughter or sister of some one for Muta,Wallahi not even a one person out 30% ready to give their daughters or sister in Muta marriage rather i swear to Allah these Shias will kill you if you ask for..........
I am woundering why is this?if Muta is part of Shia religion and yours Imam say it can evelate yours status to that of Imams by doing it,then what is problem?
You hate the lover of Mohammad(pbuh) Umer(r.a) and claim to be the lovers of Ahlelbayt,infact you love Umer(r.a) by not indulging yours daughters and sisters in Muta.

Muta at Eid-e-Ghadeer is not part of Shia religion,as Imam ibne Tammiya (r.a) said that even be friended with yours opposition.Some Shias may be doing it but it is their individual acts not part of the their cult.

I will suggest specially for Shias sisters to read Ex-Shia Scholar Syed Ahemed Musewi's book [wake up shias of the world] it is an eye opening regarding Shiaism.I know generally Shias never listen,history is witness that they never listen to their Imams.!!!

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Posted 16 April 2010 - 05:53 AM

View PostAli Shah Hussain, on 16 April 2010 - 03:42 AM, said:

If something is part of yours religion then one should accept it and do it as Shia accept Muta to be legal marriage, but problem is that they accept it to be part of their religion but when it comes to do it then I know what is their reaction....I am from north Pakistan,where i come from there are 30% Shias,trust me if some one go and ask the daughter or sister of some one for Muta,Wallahi not even a one person out 30% ready to give their daughters or sister in Muta marriage rather i swear to Allah these Shias will kill you if you ask for..........
I am woundering why is this?if Muta is part of Shia religion and yours Imam say it can evelate yours status to that of Imams by doing it,then what is problem?
You hate the lover of Mohammad(pbuh) Umer(r.a) and claim to be the lovers of Ahlelbayt,infact you love Umer(r.a) by not indulging yours daughters and sisters in Muta.

Muta at Eid-e-Ghadeer is not part of Shia religion,as Imam ibne Tammiya (r.a) said that even be friended with yours opposition.Some Shias may be doing it but it is their individual acts not part of the their cult.

I will suggest specially for Shias sisters to read Ex-Shia Scholar Syed Ahemed Musewi's book [wake up shias of the world] it is an eye opening regarding Shiaism.I know generally Shias never listen,history is witness that they never listen to their Imams.!!!

Taliban ziyada piyar karteay heay [edited] seay. Sarrae ke Sareay Londaeay baz hain!!!


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Edited by Fatah-Momin, 16 April 2010 - 06:40 AM.


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Posted 16 April 2010 - 07:03 PM

View PostAbuzoha, on 15 April 2010 - 09:10 AM, said:

Nahi Janab ye aik Propaganda hi...kiu k jub Hazrat Ali ko masjid e kofa main shaheed kiya gaya tu os waqt

ye khaber jub mawia k darbar main sunai gai k Hazart Ali (as) Masjid main shaheed ho gay tu waha ki awam jo k mawia k propaganday ki wajha se Imam Ali (as) ko muslaman hi nahi samahjthi thi tu herat se phochny lagy k kiya Ali namaz bhi parrhty thy... tu janab ye aik propaganda jo mawaiya (maloon) ne apny zamany me start kiya tha wo ab bhi jari hi.. lehaza Haq k sath ho jain kiu ka Rasool (saww) ka farman hi k al haqu ma ali wa ali o maal haq (haq ali k sath hi or ali haq k sath)-

dekho tum mujhay aik bachi kay bap lagtay ho kia tum kabhi apni bachi ko kisay banday kay baray main gahlat batain kerna sikhao gay answer is simpel nahi or yah jo tum ashabay nabi mohammad (s.a.w.s) ko bora bahla kehtay ho yah kis ki talim hain hazrat ali (r.a) ki. kabhi nahi jinay nabi mohammad (s.a.w.s) kay gahr main perwarish hasil ki ho woh aysi batain nahi ker sakta or koi am sahabi nahi hain amir ay muawiah balkay katibay wahi hain or gali daynay say sahaba ki shan main koi fark nahi perhta q kay quran on ki sadaqat ki kawahi day raha hay.

to janab agli dafa zaban sanbal ker bat ker na.

admistration warn him by using bad word against sahabi nabi prophet mohammad(s.a.w.s)

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Posted 16 April 2010 - 07:24 PM

View PostZulfiqar, on 16 April 2010 - 05:53 AM, said:

Taliban ziyada piyar karteay heay [edited] seay. Sarrae ke Sareay Londaeay baz hain!!!


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Zulfiqar you are deserved to be banned,so you might get yours senses back in 15 days.i guess never ever

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Posted 19 April 2010 - 10:24 PM

Muslim Brothers Ya Sub Ko Pata Ha Kay Matam Ke Raat Ko Or Eid E Gadheer Ma Ya KIa Karaty Han Ya Kabhee Bhee Such Nahe Bolan Ga Kun Kay 9/10 . We dont Maind What They F*****G Doing ,Masala Ya Ha Kay Apnay Aap Ko Muslim Mat Kahaan Or Koi Dosra name Rakh Laay . Kun Kay Ya sub Jo Karty Han Wo Islam Nahe Ha .
Yahoodi Abdullah Ibna Siba ke Shazesh Ha Jo Aaj Tak Cahlli Aa Rahe Ha . Un Ko Bola Gaya Ha Jo Ya Muslims Karty Han Us Ka Belkul Ulat Karo Astne Kay Sanap Ban Jao En Kay Or Apnay Aap Ko MUslim Kaho Es Tarhan Ya Badnam Ho Jayan Ga .EN ko Ya Nahe Pata Ezat Or Zelat Mary Mola e Kainat Kay Haat Ma Ha . Dakh Lo Duniya Ke Tarikh Utna Kar Aaj Bhee Islam Phal Raha Ha Apnay Suchany Honay Ke Waja Saay .
Matam Karnay Saay Log Un Par Thuuu THuuuu Karaty Han .Ya En Ka Kasoor Nahe Ha Ya Too Bad Dua Han .

En Kee Sub Saay Badee Pahchan Ya Ha Kay Hum Jo MUslims Karan Ga Ya Us Kaa Belkul Ulat Karan Ga .

Muslim Brothers Buzruk Kaha Karty Thaa Saanp Or Shia Nazar AAyan Too Pahlly Shia Ko Maro Pir Saanp Ko .
Ma Yaqeen Nahe Karta Thaa Es Baat Par Ma Samjhta Thaaa Panch Ungleyan Barabar Nahe Hote .
Magar Waqt Nay Sabit Kar Deya En Kay Andar Wafa Nahe Ha Ya Aap Ko zaror Dasan Ga Ek Na Ek Din Baas Time Ka Intezar Karaty Han Kab Un Muslims Ko Dhoka Deya Jaya.
Dhoka Or Fareeb En Ke Ragun Ma Ha 900 Khat Lekh Kar Bolwaya Pir Badlay Ma Kia Deya ?????? Dhoka Fareeb . JEEN KEEE FETRAT MA DASNA HO WOO DASA HEEE KARTAY HAN.

Parho Rasool E Pak Ke Zendagi Kay Bary Ma . Or Pir Dakho En Kay Bary Ma Ya Kia KIa Karty Han .Agar Ek Sacha Muslim Ho ga Too Un Par THUUUU THUUUU He Kary Ga Fasla Ya Hee Daga Kay
SHIA IS NOT MUSLIM.





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