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#21 OFFLINE   Inkaari

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 07:03 PM

MANZAR ..........pehlay posting seekho.....sab khalat malat kar dia aur koi dhang ka jawab bhi nai pesh kia.....meray sawalon ka jawab tumharay AYATULLAAAAT bhi nahi day saktay tum kia do gay....try them again...but USE ur brain while responding to a post.....

Allah Kay Ham Mujahid Hain GHulAM Mustufa(SAW) KAY
Sahaba(RA) kay sab sipahee baitay hain Ayesha(RA) kay

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Hay yahi behtar kay....... woh seena sada pit... taaaa ... Rahayy

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 08:47 AM

Asalam-o-aliekum,

aap sub logon k khayalat per ker ajib si kafiyat mehsoos ker raha hoon, main shia hazrat say sirf itna kahoon ga k wo log sirf 3 khlifaoon ki hi burai nai kertey balkey wo Hazrat  Ali (R.A) per b bhotan lagatey hain, ager shie ye kehtey hain k khalafat k haqdar Harat Ali (R.A) thy to wo haq per hotey hoey b kiun khamosh rahai? jb k shia hazrat chand HADISSON per apna mazhab chala rahay hain unhi k iley 1 hadis yaha likh raha hoon, " Ali Haq k sath hai or haq Ali k sath hai" ager Hazrat Ali (R.A) haq per thy to unhain haq hasil kerney k lieay talwar ka sahara lena b perta to wo lena chaiey tha, lykin aeisa nai hoa kiun k jo haq per thy Hazrat Ali (R.A) nay un ka sath diya na k un ko mazallha munafiq nai kaha. ager Hazrat Ali (R.A) k dil main 3 khalifaoon k liey zara c b mazallah nafrat hoti to Hazrat Ali (R.A) kabi b apney betoon ka naam abubaker, umer or usman na rakhtey, lykin afsos jo ye dawa kertey hain k hum Hazrat Ali (R.A) k chahney waley hain wohi Hazrat Ali (R.A) per bohtan lagatey hain or phir YA ALI MADAD k narey b lagatey hain, shia hazrat say main ye guzarish karoon ga k ager wo sachey honey ka dawa kertey hain to ye kiun nai bataty k Hazrat Ali (R.A), Hazrat IMAM HUSSIAN (R.A) ko saheed  kerney waley b ahley kufa thy,  maloon shimer maloon nay Hazrat IMAM HUSSIAN (R.A) ka sir-e-akdas tan say juda kiya wo Hazrat ABBAS ALAMDAR (R.A) ka mamoon tha, is per shia hazrat kuch nai boltey kiun k hakikat ka samna kerna bohat mushkil hai, or shia hazrat pehley dawat dytey hain phir katal kerwa dytey hain, ye hai hakikat shia islam ki, ager shia harazt ko sach bolna itna hi acha lagta hai to ye sach b apni zuban say kabi bol ker to dekhain.

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Posted 02 January 2010 - 05:45 PM

 Noman Khan, on Dec 31 2009, 02:17 PM, said:

Asalam-o-aliekum,

aap sub logon k khayalat per ker ajib si kafiyat mehsoos ker raha hoon, main shia hazrat say sirf itna kahoon ga k wo log sirf 3 khlifaoon ki hi burai nai kertey balkey wo Hazrat  Ali (R.A) per b bhotan lagatey hain, ager shie ye kehtey hain k khalafat k haqdar Harat Ali (R.A) thy to wo haq per hotey hoey b kiun khamosh rahai? jb k shia hazrat chand HADISSON per apna mazhab chala rahay hain unhi k iley 1 hadis yaha likh raha hoon, " Ali Haq k sath hai or haq Ali k sath hai" ager Hazrat Ali (R.A) haq per thy to unhain haq hasil kerney k lieay talwar ka sahara lena b perta to wo lena chaiey tha, lykin aeisa nai hoa kiun k jo haq per thy Hazrat Ali (R.A) nay un ka sath diya na k un ko mazallha munafiq nai kaha. ager Hazrat Ali (R.A) k dil main 3 khalifaoon k liey zara c b mazallah nafrat hoti to Hazrat Ali (R.A) kabi b apney betoon ka naam abubaker, umer or usman na rakhtey, lykin afsos jo ye dawa kertey hain k hum Hazrat Ali (R.A) k chahney waley hain wohi Hazrat Ali (R.A) per bohtan lagatey hain or phir YA ALI MADAD k narey b lagatey hain, shia hazrat say main ye guzarish karoon ga k ager wo sachey honey ka dawa kertey hain to ye kiun nai bataty k Hazrat Ali (R.A), Hazrat IMAM HUSSIAN (R.A) ko saheed  kerney waley b ahley kufa thy,  maloon shimer maloon nay Hazrat IMAM HUSSIAN (R.A) ka sir-e-akdas tan say juda kiya wo Hazrat ABBAS ALAMDAR (R.A) ka mamoon tha, is per shia hazrat kuch nai boltey kiun k hakikat ka samna kerna bohat mushkil hai, or shia hazrat pehley dawat dytey hain phir katal kerwa dytey hain, ye hai hakikat shia islam ki, ager shia harazt ko sach bolna itna hi acha lagta hai to ye sach b apni zuban say kabi bol ker to dekhain.
Tumhe tarrane k alawa kucch nai aata. Kitni baar tumhe jawab dediye gaye magar tumhre Mendhak (Frog) ki tarah tar tar karna aati hai. Jawab par jawab deden phir bhi tum wohi bhonkte rahoge. Shimr Maloon tha Risthedariyan to Arab me ek se ek ki thee heen. Hamne kab chhupaya is haqeeqat ko. Shimr Hazrat Abbas (AS) ka mamun nahi tha sirf us qabeele se tha jis qabeele ki Maula Abbas (AS) ki waleda-e-girami theen.  Isi ka usne hawala dekar Ashhor ki Shab Maula Abbas (AS) se faryad ki thee k Husain (AS) ko cchor kar mere saath aajao. Parho hamaare yahan marsiyon me majlison me sab bayan kiya jata hai.  Hamara baccha baccha janta hai is baat. Magar tum majlison me aaon na tab pata chale.  Majlisen tumhare nazdeed ek biddat hain. Cinema gharon me jana Aain Ibadat hai. Nach Gane ki mehfilon ke khilafa tumhare fatwe sadir nahi hote...magar sikre Ahle bayat jahan hua wahin tumhare dil par bijlee girni shuru hogayee. Brain tumhare pass khud nahi. Ooper ise "Inkari" ko dekho jawab nahi ban para to kah kar bhag gaya k tumhare Ayatullah bhi nahi de sakte.......Main ne etraz kiye hain...himmat hai aur haq par ho to aao jawab do.

Raha Maula Ali (AS) ka apne beton k nam Abu Bakar Usman rakhna....is se kahan haqeeqat zahir hoti hai k maula Ali (as) inhe dost rakhte the.. Naam to kucch bhi rakha jasakta hai:

Naam me kucch nahi rakha hai Amal hai sub kuch

Hamari hadithe tum kahan parhte ho...tumhe to apni hi haditho ka pata nahi. Jo tumhare kaan me tumhare mulla ne bhonk diya wohi sahi lagta hai......Maula Ali (AS) khilafat k liye talwar uthate...Huzoor ne kab khud talwar uthai apne haq k liye...Har jung me ALI(AS) hi aage rahe..Huzoor (SAWS) kab maidan-e-jung me utre.  Agar utarte to yehi ilzam kuffar unpar lagate k Muhmmad (SWAS) ko Mazallah I

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Posted 02 January 2010 - 07:18 PM

Shimr Hz. Ali[ra] ka sala aur body guard tah, Ibn Ziad Hz.Ali[ra] ke khas  banda tah, un kay duar mein Kufa ka governor raha. Yeh. Arab key rishtay darian nahien tehein, Hz. Ali[ra] say un key Kurbat teeh. Karabala kay mukaam per Shimr nay Hz. Hussein[ra] say kaha tah kay meree behein kay baachay mujhay daydoo, Hz. Hussei[ra] kay sautalay bahioon nay janay say inkaar kar deia. Tum shiaoon key khaslat mein joohat bharra howa ha.  Tumharay nasal nein Imam ko bula kay doohka dia aur katal kia.

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Posted 04 January 2010 - 09:05 AM

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Posted 24 May 2010 - 05:37 AM

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Posted 24 May 2010 - 05:53 AM

Shoru karta hon Allah k naam se jo barha mehrban hai aur nehayt rehem karnay waala hai'

Tamam tareefe bs usi Allah k liay jo sab se barha hai, aur Mohammad sal Allaho alehi wa Aal e hi wassalam Allah k nabi-e-barhaq hein , aur Ali alehis salam wasi-e-Rasool-e-akhir hein...

                                 mein yahan is liay aya hon takay tamam jhoot ka palanda saaf kardon....

Allah ki qasam kia koi hai, jis k chacha Hazrat-e-Humza hein jo Rasool k sher hein or tamam shaheedo k sardar hein..?
kia koi hai jis k nikah mein masooma-e-kainat Fatima Zehra alehis salam ayin..?

kia koi hai jis k beto ko Rasool salam o alehi ne apnay betay kaha...?
kia koi un k jesa hai k jis k liay aasman se nida ayi k koi talwaar nahi zulfiqar jesi or koi faateh nahi Ali jesa..?
kia koi hai k jisay Rasool salam o Alhei ne ilm k sheher ka dar kaha..?

kia tum mein se koi shakhs kisi aisay shakhs ko janta hai? k jis ka naam Rasool salam o alehi ne Allah k nam pr rakha....?
koi koi aur aisa mard hai..jis ko Rasool salam o alehi ne apna jannat mein bhai kaha..?

kia koi aisa shakhs hai..jis k liay Rasool salam o alehi ne kaha. k 'aj kull-e-emaan kull-e-kufr k muqablay pe ja raha hai'...?

kia koi hai un k jesa k jis k liay Rasool salamo alehi ne farmaya k koi Ali se mohabbat nahi karay ga..siwaye momin k..or koi nafrat nahi karay ga siwaye kafir k...?

tum mein se koi hai?jo mujhay kisi aisay shakhs ka naam bata sakay, k jis k liar Rasool salam o alehi ne farmaya k Allah us say mohabbat krta hai jo Ali se mohabbat krta hai, Aur Allah us say dushmani rakhta hai jo Ali se dushmani rakhta hai...

agar Ali k fazeelat mantay ho...to mujhay aghaz krnay do un tamam pardo ko faash krnay ka...jo mola ne khud farmaye, jo tamam makatib-e-fikr ne likhay...o

r jinhe parh kr yeh tamam shiao per lagae ilzamaat dhul kr khtm ho jayein gein.....

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 10:38 AM

jo sawaal hum per uthaye gayein hein, koi hai jo mujhse in baato ka manazara karay?

agar tum apnay qoul mein sachhay ho to meri peshkash qbool karo,

agar tum tamam bhi mil kr ek hojao tb bhi mujhay apnay kamiyab honay ka yaqeen hai...

yeh jo mozoh ka naam hai Shia Vs Muslim....isay palat kr Shia is Muslim na kia....to az khud yahan se dastbardaar ho kr apni haar maan longa...

ab mujhay ek ek sawal ka jawab dena hai to koi hai jo sawaal karay???

phir un jawabaat k baad sawalaat hongay mere...or jawab dena hoga ap ko...
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Posted 27 May 2010 - 04:46 AM

kia koi bhi nahi jo mujhse sawaal karay?

k kis ne qatl kia Imam ko?
k kis ne khilafat ka mamla utha rakha hai?
k matam kion hai?
k Quran mein kia hai?
k Hadees ki kitaabo mein kia hai?
k shia yeh kion mantay hein wo kion mantay hein?


koi bhi nahi jo aaj apnay ilm ko istimaal karay?
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Posted 31 May 2010 - 06:01 AM

 SIDDIQUI, on 24 September 2009 - 09:35 AM, said:

ASSALAM-O-ALIKUM WA REHAMAT ALLAH,

MAY AHLE-TASHEE (SHIA) SAHIBAN SAY UN K SARAY SAWALON K JAWAB MAY
SIRF "1" SAWAL KARTA HON, UMMED HAY K WO IS KA SADA JAWAB DAIN GAY.

Q: SAHABA-E-KARAM KA MATLAB KYA HAY OR AGAR HAZRAT MUHAMMAD (S.A.W.W)
K WO SAHABA-E-KARAM GHALAT THAY (MAY ALLAH FORGIVE ME) TU NABI (S.A.W.A)
NAY UN KO APNA DOST Q RAKHA JAB K WOH ALLAH K MEHBOOB HAIN OR UN SAY
KISI GHALATI KA TASAWER BHE NAHI KYA JA SAKTA ?

PLEASE BOHAT SOCH SAMAJH KAR JAWAB DEJEAY GA YAY ENNAN A MAMMLA HAY.

W/SALAAM
SIDDIQUI
JANAB AAP KAY SAWAL KAY JAWAB MAY ISS SAWALI KA BHI EKK SAWAL HAY
Q: HAZRAT NOOH KA EK BETA BHI THA WO BHI TOOFAN MAY GHARQ HOO GAYA THA, TO KYA AAP USS KO BHI RAZI ALLAH KAHEN GAY , KAY WO NABI KA BETA THA , KAFIR THA TO KYA HUA ??????

AUR AGAR AAP HAZRAT NOOH KAY BETAY KO AZAAB SAY BARI MANTAY HAIN TO AAP MUSALMAN HI NAHI AUR AGAR AAP YEH MANTAY HAIN KAY USS KO AZAAB E ELAHI MILAY GA TO AAP UN ISLAAF KO KAISAY BACHAEEN GAY JO BAAD E RASOOL WADA WAFA NA KAR SAKAY

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Posted 01 June 2010 - 08:09 PM

 SAWALI, on 31 May 2010 - 06:01 AM, said:

JANAB AAP KAY SAWAL KAY JAWAB MAY ISS SAWALI KA BHI EKK SAWAL HAY
Q: HAZRAT NOOH KA EK BETA BHI THA WO BHI TOOFAN MAY GHARQ HOO GAYA THA, TO KYA AAP USS KO BHI RAZI ALLAH KAHEN GAY , KAY WO NABI KA BETA THA , KAFIR THA TO KYA HUA ??????

AUR AGAR AAP HAZRAT NOOH KAY BETAY KO AZAAB SAY BARI MANTAY HAIN TO AAP MUSALMAN HI NAHI AUR AGAR AAP YEH MANTAY HAIN KAY USS KO AZAAB E ELAHI MILAY GA TO AAP UN ISLAAF KO KAISAY BACHAEEN GAY JO BAAD E RASOOL WADA WAFA NA KAR SAKAY


Don't TYPE IN ALL CAPS; this is read as shouting and considered rude. .... so you dont have to be ok cool
2nd Apne Post Ko Parho Es Ma aap (Baad e Rasool) Lekha Ha

Make not the calling  of the Messenger (Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) among you as your ... out of respect to His Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

Aap Rasool E Pak (S.A.W) Bhee Bol Saktay han Samjhay Ya Akhri Dafa Bol Raha Hun Next Time Na Sunoo Aap Saay

Baat Karnay Saay Pahlly Socho Kia Bol Rahay Ho Or Kes Kay Leya Bol Rahay Ho ......

ya Tum Shiaun Ke Jo (Alef Lala Ke Story) Buhat Porane Ho gai ha ............
Jes Saay Allah Or Us Ka Nabi (S.A.W)  Raze Tu Hum Kon Hotay Han Nafeee Karnay Walay ?????

Har Nafs Ko Chakhna Ha Mout Ka Maza



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Posted 02 June 2010 - 12:05 AM

 SAWALI, on 31 May 2010 - 06:01 AM, said:

JANAB AAP KAY SAWAL KAY JAWAB MAY ISS SAWALI KA BHI EKK SAWAL HAY
Q: HAZRAT NOOH KA EK BETA BHI THA WO BHI TOOFAN MAY GHARQ HOO GAYA THA, TO KYA AAP USS KO BHI RAZI ALLAH KAHEN GAY , KAY WO NABI KA BETA THA , KAFIR THA TO KYA HUA ??????

AUR AGAR AAP HAZRAT NOOH KAY BETAY KO AZAAB SAY BARI MANTAY HAIN TO AAP MUSALMAN HI NAHI AUR AGAR AAP YEH MANTAY HAIN KAY USS KO AZAAB E ELAHI MILAY GA TO AAP UN ISLAAF KO KAISAY BACHAEEN GAY JO BAAD E RASOOL WADA WAFA NA KAR SAKAY

So you are going to Challenge Allah Almighty Knowledge?
When Allah has said that He is Pleased of them(Companions) and his Messenger(pbuh) then there is no romm for yours Comments,infact it is disbelieve on Quran clear Verses

"Muhammad is a Messenger of ALLAH, and those(Companions) who are with him are hard against the unbelievers and merciful among themselves, thou seest them bowing, prostrating, seeking bounty and pleasure of ALLAH, their mark is on their faces, being the trace of prostration. That is their likeness in the Torah and their likeness in the Gospel, as a seed that puts forth its shoot, then strengthens it, then it becomes stout, then it rises straight on its stalk, pleasing the sowers that, through them, He may enrage the unbelievers, ALLAH promises those, who believe and who, out of them, do righteous deeds, forgiveness and a big wage". ( 48 : 29 ) Al-Quran.

Now lets see what Hazrat Ali(r.a) has said about the Companions of Rasool Allah(saw) in Nahjul Balgha.Sermon 34

"I have seen the companions of the Prophet but I do not find anyone resembling them . They began the day with dust on the hair and face (in hardship of life) and passed the night in prostration and standing in prayers. Sometimes they put down their foreheads and sometimes their cheeks. With the recollection of their resurrection it seemed as though they stood on live coal. It seemed that in between their eyes there were signs like knees of goats, resulting from long prostrations. When Allah was mentioned their eyes flowed freely till their shirt collars were drenched. They trembled for fear of punishment and hope of reward as the tree trembles on the day of stormy wind."

Hazrat Ali(r.a) above stated sermon some how resembling the Above stated verse.

Now its up to you to deny the Quranic Verse and Hazrat Ali(r.a) Sermon???????????

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 07:00 PM

 Murtaza Rizvi, on 25 May 2010 - 10:38 AM, said:

jo sawaal hum per uthaye gayein hein, koi hai jo mujhse in baato ka manazara karay?

agar tum apnay qoul mein sachhay ho to meri peshkash qbool karo,

agar tum tamam bhi mil kr ek hojao tb bhi mujhay apnay kamiyab honay ka yaqeen hai...

yeh jo mozoh ka naam hai Shia Vs Muslim....isay palat kr Shia is Muslim na kia....to az khud yahan se dastbardaar ho kr apni haar maan longa...

ab mujhay ek ek sawal ka jawab dena hai to koi hai jo sawaal karay???

phir un jawabaat k baad sawalaat hongay mere...or jawab dena hoga ap ko...


yahan per ek rafidi murtaza rizvi challenge kar raha hai k koi hai jo mujh se sawal kare...

tujhse sawal kar to lein lekin jahan tu phanse ga wahan tujhe takiya, kambal, chaadar, palang, almaari, dressing table, side table, mirror, table lamp etc sab yad aa jaye ga.

chal tu pehle apna quran k bare mein yahan aqeedah likh kar de, aur takiya ki definition likh kar de phir mein tujh se sirf ek hi sawal karoon ga...phir mardon ki tarah logical jawab dena, na mardon ki tarah bhagna nahi aur na hi topic change karna.

chal shabash, jaldi se aqeedah likh aur takiya ki definition likh kar de yahan pe phir bat shuru karte hein.

P.S. modz >>> agar nayi thread per switch karna chahein to kar sakte hein.

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 07:39 AM

Shru karta hon Allah k naam se, jo barha meherbaan hai , aur nehaayat rehem krnay waala hai

Tamam tareefein bs usi Allah ki jo sab se barha hai , Muhammad sal Allaho alehi wa aal-e-hi wassalam Allah k Nabi-e-bar haq hien,
or Ali alehis salam janasheen-e-Rasool-e-Akhir hein..

Dost tumharay lehjay se tumharay firqay ki numaindigi hoti hai , lehaza tahammul ko hath se chorho mat...

mujhay ya kisi ko zaleel krnay k liay apni akhirat mein gunah na barhao , na larhnay mein jaldi karo kion k fasaad Allah ko pasand nahi...

TOPIC :

mere dost tum nay mujhay is trha se maghloob krnay ki koshish ki...k yeh batao wo batao...

jab k topic kia hai?

Topic hai Mola Ali ki tamam khalifao per faseelat..

kia tm is topic ko face nahi kr saktay? isi liay mozoh badal rahay ho?

agar tumhe koi or topic discuss krnay hai to new topic on karo mera wada hai k tumhe sab biyan karonga magar yahan Mola Ali ki shan k mohafiz hon..

dekho dost.

mein bhi bht say sangeen aetrazat rakhta hon sunnion se...per mein yahan tamam k tamam shro kardon sirf is liay k ksi ko bay izzat kar sakon?

kia tarmazi mein Bibi Ayesha se jo riwayat hein un ko justify kar saktay ho?
kia abu sufiyan k muslaman honay ko sabit kr saktay ho?
etc etc..

per topic to topic chalo...

wrna na tumhe koi sunay ga na jawab day ga..

mujhse manazar karo ... mera Dawa hai...k Hazrat Ali Alehis salam 4 khalifao mein sab se afzal hein, or un k siwa Khilafat ka haqdar koi nahi....

mere pas sunni references hein is baray mein...

to poocho Mola Ali ki kon se fazeelat kahan hai...

Baqi raha emaan , takiya wghera...start a new topic in the forum...
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Posted 10 June 2010 - 08:07 AM

For "DEER"

jo misaal aapn nay di apnay aetibaar se aap nay socha..mumkin hai aap k zehen mein koi ba wazan baat ho.

suneay..

Hazrat Noh AS k betay ne sarkashi ki, theek?
to wo azaab se bari nahi...

No matter he was a son of Prophet.

magar..

Hazart Ali AS Rasool-e-Khuda k bhai hi nahi...balkay un k jan nisaar, un ki gaod mein palnay walay or un k muntakhib karda damaad thay...

to kia wo sarkash hoay?

hargiz nahi...

wo to afzal hoay...

lehaza hum kabhi mehez khooni rishto per fazeelat nahi dia kartay...
amal...ahadees or sunnat se daleel dete hein..

Rasool-e-Khuda ne farmaya..

:ay Ali, tumhe mujhse wahi nisbat hai jo mosa ko haroon se thi, magar farq yeh hai k mere baad koi nabi nahi"
Sunni Reference:

Jamay tarmizi, Volume 2, Page no. 301
Ibn-e-Majjah in his Sunan, page 12


mazeed jo zikr aapnay kashti-e-noh ka kia...

aap ki kitaab mein Allah k Rasool salam o alehi ki hadees hai,

"mein or mee ehel-e-bait noh ki kashti ki trha hein, jo is per sawar hoa wo falah pa gaya"
Sunni reference :

Al-Hakim in his Mustadrak , ii , 343
Al-Muttaqi in his Kanz al Ummal i, 250



I hope i have done with the answer.
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Posted 10 June 2010 - 12:21 PM

 SIDDIQUI, on 24 September 2009 - 09:35 AM, said:

ASSALAM-O-ALIKUM WA REHAMAT ALLAH,

MAY AHLE-TASHEE (SHIA) SAHIBAN SAY UN K SARAY SAWALON K JAWAB MAY
SIRF "1" SAWAL KARTA HON, UMMED HAY K WO IS KA SADA JAWAB DAIN GAY.

Q: SAHABA-E-KARAM KA MATLAB KYA HAY OR AGAR HAZRAT MUHAMMAD (S.A.W.W)
K WO SAHABA-E-KARAM GHALAT THAY (MAY ALLAH FORGIVE ME) TU NABI (S.A.W.A)
NAY UN KO APNA DOST Q RAKHA JAB K WOH ALLAH K MEHBOOB HAIN OR UN SAY
KISI GHALATI KA TASAWER BHE NAHI KYA JA SAKTA ?

PLEASE BOHAT SOCH SAMAJH KAR JAWAB DEJEAY GA YAY ENNAN A MAMMLA HAY.

W/SALAAM
SIDDIQUI

Janab Siddiqui sb

1- Sahabi Ka laghvi matlab sohbat mein rehne wala. shariyat ki istalah mein sahabi us shakhs ko kehtay hain jis ne na sirf Rasool -e-Pak (sawa) ki ziarat ki balke unki maarifat bhi paayee, Huzur ki sidq-e-dil say ata'at ki un ki zindagi mein aur unke baad aur uska katma bil emaan hua

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Posted 16 June 2010 - 05:14 PM

 Murtaza Rizvi, on 10 June 2010 - 07:39 AM, said:

<br /><b> Shru karta hon Allah k naam se, jo barha meherbaan hai , aur nehaayat rehem krnay waala hai<br /><br />Tamam tareefein bs usi Allah ki jo sab se barha hai , Muhammad sal Allaho alehi wa aal-e-hi wassalam Allah k Nabi-e-bar haq hien,<br />or Ali alehis salam janasheen-e-Rasool-e-Akhir hein..<br /></b><br />Dost tumharay lehjay se tumharay firqay ki numaindigi hoti hai , lehaza tahammul ko hath se chorho mat...<br /><br />mujhay ya kisi ko zaleel krnay k liay apni akhirat mein gunah na barhao , na larhnay mein jaldi karo kion k fasaad Allah ko pasand nahi...<br /><br />TOPIC : <br /><br />mere dost tum nay mujhay is trha se maghloob krnay ki koshish ki...k yeh batao wo batao...<br /><br />jab k topic kia hai?<br /><br />Topic hai Mola Ali ki tamam khalifao per faseelat..<br /><br />kia tm is topic ko face nahi kr saktay? isi liay mozoh badal rahay ho?<br /><br />agar tumhe koi or topic discuss krnay hai to new topic on karo mera wada hai k tumhe sab biyan karonga magar yahan Mola Ali ki shan k mohafiz hon..<br /><br />dekho dost.<br /><br />mein bhi bht say sangeen aetrazat rakhta hon sunnion se...per mein yahan tamam k tamam shro kardon sirf is liay k ksi ko bay izzat kar sakon?<br /><br />kia tarmazi mein Bibi Ayesha se jo riwayat hein un ko justify kar saktay ho?<br />kia abu sufiyan k muslaman honay ko sabit kr saktay ho?<br />etc etc..<br /><br />per topic to topic chalo...<br /><br />wrna na tumhe koi sunay ga na jawab day ga..<br /><br />mujhse manazar karo ... mera Dawa hai...k Hazrat Ali Alehis salam 4 khalifao mein sab se afzal hein, or un k siwa Khilafat ka haqdar koi nahi....<br /><br />mere pas sunni references hein is baray mein...<br /><br />to poocho Mola Ali ki kon se fazeelat kahan hai...<br /><br />Baqi raha emaan , takiya wghera...start a new topic in the forum...<br />
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tum se pyar se baat agar karoon b to q karoon, koi ek waja to batao, tum humare sahaba (r.a) aur huzoor sallallahu alaihi wa sallam ki azwaj-e-mutahiraat (r.a) per tabarra karo aur mein tum per baton k phool barsaaoon.....wah g wah, phoolon ko chhero ge to kante to chubein ge hi. is takleef per agar etiraz hai to phoolon ko chherte hi q ho???

rahi baat sawalat ki to mein ne tum se ziyada lamba chora jawab nahi manga, sirf 2 lines ka jawab manga hai, idhar udhar ki batein to chal hi rahi hein na yahan per to mere sawalat k jawabat dene se kya bigar jaye ga tumhara. jawab to tum de hi sakte ho yahan per lekin tum dena nahi chahte q k tumhein pata hai k is tarah tum phans jao ge. chalo in sawalat ka mujhe private message mein hi jawab de do ta k nayi thread per bat karne mein asani ho.

ek aur baat khoob samjh lo, muhaditheen aur muarrikheen ki har bat pathar ki lakeer nahi hai, pathar ki lakeer sirf quran hai jis per tumhara imaan hi nahi. 12th imam 70 gazz ka quran utha kar ummat ko gumrahi mein dakhel kar ghaar mein chala gaya. yeh tumhara deen kehta hai. is baat ko agar haq man liya jaye to phir hidayat ki kitab humare paas hai hi nahi to phir bagair hidayat k falaah kaise paye ga koi??? kitne sare logo ki akhirat kharab ho rahi hai tumhare is aqeedah ko sach manne se. hum is tarah ka aqeedah nahi rakhte, its illogical...yeh batil aqeedah tumhein hi mubarak ho.

baqi raha sawal nayi thread ka to thore din sabr kar jao, mein abhi available nahi hoon kuch dino k liye. farig hote hi sab se pehla kam mein ne tum se baat hi karni hai.

till then prepare urself.

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Posted 16 June 2010 - 05:36 PM

for murtaza rizvi
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tum se pyar se baat agar karoon b to q karoon, koi ek waja to batao, tum humare sahaba (r.a) aur huzoor sallallahu alaihi wa sallam ki azwaj-e-mutahiraat (r.a) per tabarra karo aur mein tum per baton k phool barsaaoon.....wah g wah, phoolon ko chhero ge to kante to chubein ge hi. is takleef per agar etiraz hai to phoolon ko chherte hi q ho???

rahi baat sawalat ki to mein ne tum se ziyada lamba chora jawab nahi manga, sirf 2 lines ka jawab manga hai, idhar udhar ki batein to chal hi rahi hein na yahan per to mere sawalat k jawabat dene se kya bigar jaye ga tumhara. jawab to tum de hi sakte ho yahan per lekin tum dena nahi chahte q k tumhein pata hai k is tarah tum phans jao ge. chalo in sawalat ka mujhe private message mein hi jawab de do ta k nayi thread per bat karne mein asani ho.

ek aur baat khoob samjh lo, muhaditheen aur muarrikheen ki har bat pathar ki lakeer nahi hai, pathar ki lakeer sirf quran hai jis per tumhara imaan hi nahi. 12th imam 70 gazz ka quran utha kar ummat ko gumrahi mein dakhel kar ghaar mein chala gaya. yeh tumhara deen kehta hai. is baat ko agar haq man liya jaye to phir hidayat ki kitab humare paas hai hi nahi to phir bagair hidayat k falaah kaise paye ga koi??? kitne sare logo ki akhirat kharab ho rahi hai tumhare is aqeedah ko sach manne se. hum is tarah ka aqeedah nahi rakhte, its illogical...yeh batil aqeedah tumhein hi mubarak ho.

baqi raha sawal nayi thread ka to thore din sabr kar jao, mein abhi available nahi hoon kuch dino k liye. farig hote hi sab se pehla kam mein ne tum se baat hi karni hai.

till then prepare urself.

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Posted 16 June 2010 - 07:41 PM

@ Murtaza Rizvi App nay kaha (mujhse manazar karo ... mera Dawa hai...k Hazrat Ali Alehis salam 4 khalifao mein sab se afzal hein, or un k siwa Khilafat ka haqdar koi nahi....Am i right? Here you are making huge mistake according to yours own Creed.You know why? You claim Ali(r.a) was a divinly appointed Imam....then how you can match Ali(r.a) with anyone else since he is divinly appointed Imam? waiting for yours reply then we will talk from their.Inshallah

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Posted 18 June 2010 - 03:52 PM

 Fatah-Momin, on 02 January 2010 - 07:18 PM, said:

<br />Shimr Hz. Ali[ra] ka sala aur body guard tah, Ibn Ziad Hz.Ali[ra] ke khasbanda tah, un kay duar mein Kufa ka governor raha. Yeh. Arab key rishtay darian nahien tehein, Hz. Ali[ra] say un key Kurbat teeh. Karabala kay mukaam per Shimr nay Hz. Hussein[ra] say kaha tah kay meree behein kay baachay mujhay daydoo, Hz. Hussei[ra] kay sautalay bahioon nay janay say inkaar kar deia. Tum shiaoon key khaslat mein joohat bharra howa ha.Tumharay nasal nein Imam ko bula kay doohka dia aur katal kia.<br />
<br /><br /><br /> Assalaamo-Alaikum mere pyare bhai. Dehko bath seedhi see hai. Jo bhi Imaam Hussain ka kathil hai khwa Shia, Sunni ya koi aur is meh koi farak nehi partha. Ao mil kar Imaam Hussain ke kathlo peh lanath behejthe hai. Aghar woh Shia theh to tab bhi wo lanath ke mustahik hai. Is meh Shia ki aur azmath hai ke aghar apne ithne bareh juram ke zimedar hai to woh lanath ke mustahik hai. Amooman apno peh to parda dala jatha hai laikin Shia kithne aadil hai keh jo bhi Imam Hussain ka kathil hai woh lanath ka mustahik hai. Ab batao! Aur koi bahana Shia ko badam karne ka aur logo ko shia seh door rakhene ka? Wassalaam.





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