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#1 OFFLINE   alijan1001

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Posted 25 December 2010 - 03:11 PM

Wives and Children of Hazrat Ali [May Allah be pleased with him]

1 - Hazrat Fatimah Bin Mohammad [May Allah be pleased with her]:

Hassan, Hussain, Zainab ul Kubra and Umme Kulthum [she became wife of Hazrat Omar (May Allah be pleased with him and all those who were mentioned earlier.

2 - Umm-ul-Bunian Bin Haram Bin Kalabia [she was related with Shimar Bin Zil Joshan (the alleged Criminal of Karabala){Ref: Jumhartul Ansab by Ibn Hazm}] who was the daughter of Hazam b. Khalid. Hadrat Ali had five sons from her, namely: Abdullah, Jafar, Abbas, Othman, and Umar. All of them were martyred in the battle of Karbala along with Hadhrat Hussain [May Allah be pleased with him].

3 - Laila Bin Masood Bint Khalid Nehshaliya Tameema who was the daughter of Masud. She was the mother of two sons, namely Ubaidullah and Abu Bakr. Both of them were martyred in Karbala.

4 - Asma who was the daughter of Umais. She was in the first instance married to Hadrat Jafar, an elder brother of Hadrat Ali. On the death of Hadrat Jafar, Hadrat Abu Bakr married her. After the death of Hadrat Abu Bakr she married Hadrat Ali. She had to sons from Hadrat Ali, namely: Yahya and Muhammad Al Asghar who martyred in Karbala.

5 - Umama [her mother Zainab was the daughter of Prophet Mohammad - PBUH]d/o of Abi Al Aa's. Her son from Hadrat Ali bore the name of Muhammad Awsat.

6 - Khaula Bin Jafariya was the daughter of Jafar Hanfiyah. She was the mother of the son known as Muhammad b. Hanfiyah aka Mohammad Al Akbar.

7 - Sehba Bin Rabia Taghlibiya who was the daughter of Rabiah. She gave birth to a son Umar, in the daughter Ruqiya.

8 - Umm Saeed Bin Urwa Bin Masood Thaqeefa who was a daughter of Urwa. She bore Hadrat Ali three daughters, namely: Umm-ul-Hasan, Ramlatul Kubra and Rumia.

9 - Mukhbita Bin Amral Qais Bin Adi Al Kalbiya Muhyat was a daughter of the famous Arab poet Imra-ul-Qais. She gave birth to a daughter who expired in infancy.

Hadrat Ali married nine wives in all including Hadrat Fatima. The number of wives at a time however did not exceed four. He had a few slave girls of whom Humia and Umm Shuaib bore him 12 daughters, Nafisa, Zainab, Ruqiya, Umm-ul-Karaam, Humaira, Umm Salma, Sughra, Khadija, Umm Hani, Umm Kulthum Jamana and Maimuna. Hadrat Ali was, in all, the father of 15 sons and 18 daughters. [total = 33 children]

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Posted 25 December 2010 - 09:55 PM

Salam Alaikum, Abubakr bin Ali bin Abi Talib (ra) and Umar bin Ali bin Abi Talib (ra) the brothers of Al-Hussain (ra) were martyred in Karbala. Abubakr bin Hussain (ra) [if I am not wrong) was the son of Hussain also died in Karbala. Can you or anybody else tell me their ages? How old were they?

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Posted 29 December 2010 - 06:05 PM

View Postalijan1001, on 25 December 2010 - 03:11 PM, said:

<br />Wives and Children of Hazrat Ali [May Allah be pleased with him]<br /><br />1 - Hazrat Fatimah Bin Mohammad [May Allah be pleased with her]:<br /><br />Hassan, Hussain, Zainab ul Kubra and Umme Kulthum [she became wife of Hazrat Omar (May Allah be pleased with him and all those who were mentioned earlier.<br /><br />2 - Umm-ul-Bunian Bin Haram Bin Kalabia [she was related with Shimar Bin Zil Joshan (the alleged Criminal of Karabala){Ref: Jumhartul Ansab by Ibn Hazm}] who was the daughter of Hazam b. Khalid. Hadrat Ali had five sons from her, namely: Abdullah, Jafar, Abbas, Othman, and Umar. All of them were martyred in the battle of Karbala along with Hadhrat Hussain [May Allah be pleased with him].<br /><br />3 - Laila Bin Masood Bint Khalid Nehshaliya Tameema who was the daughter of Masud. She was the mother of two sons, namely Ubaidullah and Abu Bakr. Both of them were martyred in Karbala.<br /><br />4 - Asma who was the daughter of Umais. She was in the first instance married to Hadrat Jafar, an elder brother of Hadrat Ali. On the death of Hadrat Jafar, Hadrat Abu Bakr married her. After the death of Hadrat Abu Bakr she married Hadrat Ali. She had to sons from Hadrat Ali, namely: Yahya and Muhammad Al Asghar who martyred in Karbala.<br /><br />5 - Umama [her mother Zainab was the daughter of Prophet Mohammad - PBUH]d/o of Abi Al Aa's. Her son from Hadrat Ali bore the name of Muhammad Awsat.<br /><br />6 - Khaula Bin Jafariya was the daughter of Jafar Hanfiyah. She was the mother of the son known as Muhammad b. Hanfiyah aka Mohammad Al Akbar.<br /><br />7 - Sehba Bin Rabia Taghlibiya who was the daughter of Rabiah. She gave birth to a son Umar, in the daughter Ruqiya.<br /><br />8 - Umm Saeed Bin Urwa Bin Masood Thaqeefa who was a daughter of Urwa. She bore Hadrat Ali three daughters, namely: Umm-ul-Hasan, Ramlatul Kubra and Rumia.<br /><br />9 - Mukhbita Bin Amral Qais Bin Adi Al Kalbiya Muhyat was a daughter of the famous Arab poet Imra-ul-Qais. She gave birth to a daughter who expired in infancy.<br /><br />Hadrat Ali married nine wives in all including Hadrat Fatima. The number of wives at a time however did not exceed four. He had a few slave girls of whom Humia and Umm Shuaib bore him 12 daughters, Nafisa, Zainab, Ruqiya, Umm-ul-Karaam, Humaira, Umm Salma, Sughra, Khadija, Umm Hani, Umm Kulthum Jamana and Maimuna. Hadrat Ali was, in all, the father of 15 sons and 18 daughters. [total = 33 children]<br />
<br /><br /><br />You claim that Hazrath Ali's [ra] daughter Umme-Kalsoom from Hazrath Fatimah [ra] was married to Hazrath Umar Ibne Khathaab [ra]. When did this marriage take place???? What was the exact age of both Hazrath Umar [ra] and Hazrath Umme Kalsoom [ra] at the time of this marriage???? You have a chance to succeed were others have failed. I want references, evidence, proof etc from authentic books. Now back up your claim! Otherwise you boys really need to zip it. Now lets see if you really have something.

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Posted 29 December 2010 - 06:41 PM

^^ To Ameen

Dear friend, this is proven from your books, the Sahih Hadeeths graded as 'Saheeh' by shia hadeeth scholars themseleves. It was later scholars who started denying this marriage but the early shia scholars from whom you take most of your shia religion they all beleievd in this marriage.

If you don't beleive us, visit this blog by a shia (Nader Zaveri). He provides Saheeh hadeeths that this marriage occured.

http://revivingalisl...mm-kulthum.html


Also Check this thread of this forum.
http://islamic-forum...showtopic=10373

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Posted 31 December 2010 - 07:02 AM

View PostAmeen, on 29 December 2010 - 06:05 PM, said:

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View Postalijan1001, on 25 December 2010 - 03:11 PM, said:

&lt;br /&gt;Wives and Children of Hazrat Ali [May Allah be pleased with him]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1 - Hazrat Fatimah Bin Mohammad [May Allah be pleased with her]:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hassan, Hussain, Zainab ul Kubra and Umme Kulthum [she became wife of Hazrat Omar (May Allah be pleased with him and all those who were mentioned earlier.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2 - Umm-ul-Bunian Bin Haram Bin Kalabia [she was related with Shimar Bin Zil Joshan (the alleged Criminal of Karabala){Ref: Jumhartul Ansab by Ibn Hazm}] who was the daughter of Hazam b. Khalid. Hadrat Ali had five sons from her, namely: Abdullah, Jafar, Abbas, Othman, and Umar. All of them were martyred in the battle of Karbala along with Hadhrat Hussain [May Allah be pleased with him].&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3 - Laila Bin Masood Bint Khalid Nehshaliya Tameema who was the daughter of Masud. She was the mother of two sons, namely Ubaidullah and Abu Bakr. Both of them were martyred in Karbala.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4 - Asma who was the daughter of Umais. She was in the first instance married to Hadrat Jafar, an elder brother of Hadrat Ali. On the death of Hadrat Jafar, Hadrat Abu Bakr married her. After the death of Hadrat Abu Bakr she married Hadrat Ali. She had to sons from Hadrat Ali, namely: Yahya and Muhammad Al Asghar who martyred in Karbala.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5 - Umama [her mother Zainab was the daughter of Prophet Mohammad - PBUH]d/o of Abi Al Aa's. Her son from Hadrat Ali bore the name of Muhammad Awsat.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6 - Khaula Bin Jafariya was the daughter of Jafar Hanfiyah. She was the mother of the son known as Muhammad b. Hanfiyah aka Mohammad Al Akbar.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;7 - Sehba Bin Rabia Taghlibiya who was the daughter of Rabiah. She gave birth to a son Umar, in the daughter Ruqiya.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;8 - Umm Saeed Bin Urwa Bin Masood Thaqeefa who was a daughter of Urwa. She bore Hadrat Ali three daughters, namely: Umm-ul-Hasan, Ramlatul Kubra and Rumia.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;9 - Mukhbita Bin Amral Qais Bin Adi Al Kalbiya Muhyat was a daughter of the famous Arab poet Imra-ul-Qais. She gave birth to a daughter who expired in infancy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hadrat Ali married nine wives in all including Hadrat Fatima. The number of wives at a time however did not exceed four. He had a few slave girls of whom Humia and Umm Shuaib bore him 12 daughters, Nafisa, Zainab, Ruqiya, Umm-ul-Karaam, Humaira, Umm Salma, Sughra, Khadija, Umm Hani, Umm Kulthum Jamana and Maimuna. Hadrat Ali was, in all, the father of 15 sons and 18 daughters. [total = 33 children]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You claim that Hazrath Ali's [ra] daughter Umme-Kalsoom from Hazrath Fatimah [ra] was married to Hazrath Umar Ibne Khathaab [ra]. When did this marriage take place???? What was the exact age of both Hazrath Umar [ra] and Hazrath Umme Kalsoom [ra] at the time of this marriage???? You have a chance to succeed were others have failed. I want references, evidence, proof etc from authentic books. Now back up your claim! Otherwise you boys really need to zip it. Now lets see if you really have something.<br />
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Ameen................Here you go the shia website confirming the marriage of Umm Kulthoom bint Ali(r.a) to Umar bin Khattab(r.a).

[Aalim Network QR] Silence of Imam Ali (AS)
Aalim: Mohammad Soleiman-Panah

Question:

if Ali (s) was against Omar he would not have let his daughter marry Omars SonIs the aboveTRUE?

ANSWER:

As to the issue of marriageif anyone wants to use this kind of events against more basic idea he must know that first of all it was Omar himself who married Ali and Fatemeh (AS) daughter, Ume Kulsum. Secondly When Omar asked Imams (AS) permission to marry her, Imam (AS) refused and said she is too young for marrying him. Omar swore wa Allah-e I do not seek her for what you may think, I seek her because I heard the holy prophet (SA) saying get closer to me by being close to my family. I want to be closer to him by marrying his granddaughter. Whatever his true intentions were - perhaps a political gesture for the chilly political climate of the time when everybody knew that Ali (AS) did not let them to be present in the Salah to Fatemehs (SA) body and her burial, or making confusion among the public and generation to come, or perhaps a call of conscience of guilt for what he has done to Fatemeh (SA)- Imam (AS) must have had good reasons for agreeing to the marriage.

source: Aalim Network, http://www.al-islam....k/msg00166.html

A well-respected Shia scholar, Shaykh Mohammed Soleiman-Panah, answered this question. Perhaps the Shia propagandists will try to question his authority by quoting the scholars own modesty on the issue, but it should be noted that Al-Islam.org itself calls him a Shaykh as well as an Aalim, such as here:
http://al-islam1.org...k/msg00063.html
Here, Shia websites that quote these Hadith.
Chapter of Umm Kulthooms Marriage
source: http://www.al-shia.c...kafi-5/213.html
Translation: Ali ibn Ibrahim from his father from Ibn Abi Umayr from Hisham ibn Salim and Hammadfrom Zurarah, who narrates that:

Abu Abdullah (a.s) said about the marriage of Umm Kulthoom: That was the vagina that we were forced to give.
source: http://www.al-shia.c...kafi-5/213.html

Muhammad ibn Abi Umayr Hisham ibn Salim, who narrates that Imam Jafar as-Sadiq said:
When [Umar] proposed to Amir al-Muminin, he said, She is a child.Then he [Umar] met Abbas and asked him, What is wrong with me? Is there a problem with me?Abbas asked, Why?Umar replied,  asked your nephew for his daughters hand in marriage, and he rejected me. Oh, I swear by Allah, I will fill the well of Zamzam with earth, I will destroy every honor that you have, and I will set up two witnesses to testify that he stole, that I may cut off his right hand. Abbas thereupon came to Ali and informed him of what had transpired. He asked Ali to put the matter in his hands, and Ali complied.

source: http://www.al-shia.c...kafi-5/213.html
Muhammad ibn Yahya and others Ahmad ibn Muhammad ibn Isaal-Husayn ibn Saidan-Nadr ibn Suwayd Hisham ibn Salim Sulayman ibn Khalid, who says:

asked him about a woman whose husband died: Should she spend her iddah in her house, or where she wants to? He [the Imam] replied, Where she wants to. When Umar died, Ali came and took Umm Kulthoom to his house.
source: http://www.al-shia.c...-kafi-6/85.html
Ameen how can you deny it?????????????????You are the real pure sulfuric form of Rafadi..............(The Rejector).........You will reject everyone even yours own Infallible Imam if it doesn't suit yours CULT and mood............





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