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[Bringing To Justice]

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Intelligence and ignorance


Abu Ja'far Muhammad ibn Ya�qub has narrated from a number of our people of whom one is Muhammad ibn Yahya al-�Attar who narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad from Hassan ibn Mahbub from 'Ala' ibn Razin from Muhammad ibn Muslim from abu Ja�far (a.s) who has said the following.
" When Allah, God, created Intelligence He made it speak and then He said to it, �Come forward�.

It came forward. He then said, "Go back." It went back.

Then Allah said, "I swear by My honor and glory that I have not created any creature more beloved to Me than you. I will not perfect you in anyone except those whom I love. I, however, will command only you to do things and prohibit only you from doing certain things. I will grand blessings (rewards) to you only and will subject only you to punishments."



Ali ibn Muhammad has narrated from Sahl ibn Ziyad, from 'Amr ibn �Uthman, from Mufaddal ibn Salih from Sa�d ibn Tarif from Asbagh ibn Nabatah, from Ali (a.s) who has said the following.
"Once Jibril came to Adam (a.s) and said, �I am ordered to offer you three choices. You may chose one and leave the other two. Adam then asked, "What are those three things?"

Gibril replied, �They are Intelligence, bashfulness and religion.�

Adam then said, "I chose Intelligence." Gibril then asked bashfulness and religion to return and leave Intelligence with Adam. They said to Gibril, �O Gibril, we are commanded to be with Intelligence wherever it may exist. Gibril then said, "It then is up to you." He then ascended to heavens.




Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad ibn �Isa from ibn Faddal from al-Hassan ibn al-Jahm who has said the following.
"I heard (Imam) al-Rida (a.s) saying, "The friend of a person is his/her Intelligence and the enemy of a person is his/her ignorance."




(Al-Kafi :H 1, Ch. 1, h 1;H 2, Ch. 1, h 2
,H 3, Ch. 1, h 3;H 4, Ch. 1, h 4;H 5, Ch. 1, h 5)

wasalaam

Edited by Bringing To Justice, 07 June 2005 - 10:28 AM.

[afzal]

^ First Of all I am afraid that if you are practicing taqiya .. You have selected the Religon "Others" and acoording to me you are saying words as like Shiates as far as the Aqeedah of Imamatte is concerned

.... If you are Shite and practicing Taqiya than let me remind you that a person prefering other religon on his own is known ot be a Munafiq .....

2ndly Never ever Use "shrewdness" like words for any Shahabi else you will be in Trouble .. We Love Our Shahaba http://islamic-forum...tyle_emoticons/default/image021.gif more than our lives   and I will only say

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Hub-e-Shahaba(Rau) Rehmatullah and Bughz-e-Shaba(Rau) Lanatullah

3rdly What you want to prove in This topic ... ???

In each and every topic of "Shia, the blacks"  shows the Hatred with Shahaba(Rau) never knowing that how much all of them were beloved by Holy Prophet http://islamic-forum...tyle_emoticons/default/image008.gif and even Hazrat Ali http://islamic-forum...tyle_emoticons/default/image009.gif .....

Also From the book which you are Copying is not said to be legal among the Muslims ...

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"I said to abu al-Hassan, "We know certain people who have a great deal of love but they don not have much determination (and understanding of the cause of Imamat)." The Imam replied, "They are not of the ones that Allah has admonished. What Allah has said is that people of Intelligence and understanding must take a lesson."

Hope you Understand the means of Imamate .... Prove That All of Ur Imams are Masu'mins that they cant commit and Mistake as I will quote from this Aaya :

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And stay in your houses. Bedizen not yourselves with the bedizenment of the Time of Ignorance. Be regular in prayer, and pay the poor-due, and obey Allah and His messenger. Allah's wish is but to remove uncleanness far from you, O Folk of the Household, and cleanse you with a thorough cleansing. (33:33)

Removal is required where there lies Uncleanliness....

[Bringing To Justice]

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Brother Afzaal !

Plz define the following terms  :

1) Taqya

2) Sahabi ( http://islamic-forum...tyle_emoticons/default/image009.gif )

(in ur meanings )
Wassaalam !
A muslim Brother !

Edited by Bringing To Justice, 07 June 2005 - 10:40 AM.

[Bringing To Justice]

Brother , Plz let me know ,with which point of veiw ur r taking this ayah
From Fiiqah hanfia point of view this is for Ummahat-ul-Momineen,,as rest of the ayah shows this
so if ur meaning is this then I m sorry ,U seem to be A shia in taqya who is programmly humliating The Holly Mothers of all muslims .
But I hope U dont mean this plz CLear ur meaning to whome u r addressing?


And stay in your houses.   Bedizen not yourselves with the bedizenment of the Time of Ignorance. Be regular in prayer, and pay the poor-due, and obey Allah and His messenger. Allah's wish is but to remove uncleanness   far from you  , O Folk of the Household, and cleanse you with a thorough cleansing. (33:33)[/QUOTE]
Wasaalaam !

Edited by Bringing To Justice, 07 June 2005 - 11:23 AM.