UK based ''so called graduate'' says ''we shoudn't do taqleed in abu bakr
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Posted 28 April 2011 - 01:09 AM
He is anlaysis of what he said, wheither it was taken out of context or what not, he really shouldn't have used that as an example of taqleed, if you are going to dicuss the issue of taqleed dont attack those whom were already promised eternal heaven aswell having knowledge which was preserved for the later generations, through spending all those years learning off the prophet mohammed swt
Very good reponse, even thou it was taken out of context and i think he went a bit over emotional even thou i argee with him to some extint that comment was a very stupid comment to make
Indeed, those who have divided their religion and become sects - you, [O Muhammad], are not [associated] with them in anything. Their affair is only [left] to Allah ; then He will inform them about what they used to do.
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Posted 28 April 2011 - 02:19 AM
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Also what is the above about? Absolutely un-called for
The shaikh said nothing wrong, What he said in the full speech ( which was half quoted in the video) was no one but the prophet :[S.A.W.W]:should be followed blindly.
The [edited] Immam has poor adab, and is taking things too emotionally.
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Sh Abu Usamah wasn't attacking Abu Bakr
To Mods - place in appropriate section. This shouldn't be in the sunni vs shia section
Edited by Jhangvi, 28 April 2011 - 04:23 PM.
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Posted 28 April 2011 - 01:39 PM
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Posted 28 April 2011 - 02:19 PM
Waala Alika wa Ashabika Ya Habeeb Allah
قیس بن ابی حازم رضی اﷲ عنہ سے روایت ہے کہ ایک دن حضرت ابوبکر رضی اﷲ عنہ حضرت علی رضی اﷲ عنہ چہرے کی طرف دیکھ کر مسکرانے لگے۔
حضرت علی رضی اﷲ عنہ نے پوچھا‘ آپ کیوں مسکرا رہے ہیں؟
سیدنا ابوبکر رضی اﷲ عنہ نے فرمایا‘ ’’ میں نے آقا ومولیٰ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کو یہ فرماتے ہوئے سنا ہے کہ پل صراط پر سے صرف وہی گزر کر جنت میں جائے گا جس کو علی وہاں سے گزرنے کا پروانہ دیں گے۔‘‘
اس پر سیدنا علی رضی اﷲ عنہ ہنسنے لگے اور فرمایا‘ اے ابوبکر ! آپ کو بشارت ہو۔ میرے آقا ومولیٰ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نے یہ بھی فرمایا ہے کہ (اے علی!) پل صراط پر سے گزرنے کا پروانہ صرف اسی کو دینا جس کے دل میں ابوبکر کی محبت ہو۔‘‘
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Posted 28 April 2011 - 02:43 PM
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You must do taqleed in him aswell? should we also say we shouldnt do taqleed in other sahaba
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He is thinking of converting to rafidism?
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The shaikh said nothing wrong, What he said in the full speech ( which was half quoted in the video) was no one but the prophet :[S.A.W.W]:should be followed blindly.
The deobandi Immam has poor adab, and is taking things too emotionally.
haha? what evidence do you have his [edited]? by any chance, hes hanafi if you wanted to know but i guess you are such a great student ''abu usamah'' youll defend until the end right
Nothing wrong? what attacking those whom want to fellow those whom were promised jennah isn't wrong
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Sh Abu Usamah wasn't attacking Abu Bakr public/style_emoticons/default/17-RAAnhum.png. He was emphasising that even though Hz Abu Bakr public/style_emoticons/default/17-RAAnhum.png was the best of this ummah after the prophet (saws) even then we cannot follow him blindly. Again watch the full video before commenting on bits and pieces.
To Mods - place in appropriate section. This shouldn't be in the sunni vs shia section
Oh dear? we shouldnt fellow them? why not they were the best of generations, they were ones whom preserved the quran and were the ones that better than all of the scholars today and after, so your comment is [edited], i guess we shouldnt also follow the sahaba, many other prophets aswell
No what he said is [edited], and it must be exposed, i dont care if it is inter-sectarain he knew that what he said was going to cause an outrage he shouldnt kept his mouth quiet
Edited by Jhangvi, 28 April 2011 - 04:30 PM.
Indeed, those who have divided their religion and become sects - you, [O Muhammad], are not [associated] with them in anything. Their affair is only [left] to Allah ; then He will inform them about what they used to do.
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Posted 28 April 2011 - 02:44 PM
Edited by Jhangvi, 28 April 2011 - 04:31 PM.
Indeed, those who have divided their religion and become sects - you, [O Muhammad], are not [associated] with them in anything. Their affair is only [left] to Allah ; then He will inform them about what they used to do.
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Posted 28 April 2011 - 04:45 PM
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And when it is said unto them (Kuffars): Believe as these people [Sahabah {R.A}] believe; they say: "Shall we believe as these foolish believe? Alert! they (Kuffars) are the foolish but they know not. {Surah Al-Baqarah, Ayah#13}
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