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#1 OFFLINE   Muhammad_Bin_AbuBakr

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 08:54 PM

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2002 Iraqi Intel Reported Wahhabis Are of Jewish Origin
Submitted by David Livingstone on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 18:33

The U.S. Department of Defense has released translations of a number of Iraqi intelligence documents dating from Saddam’s rule.  One, a General Military Intelligence Directorate report from September 2002, entitled “The Emergence of Wahhabism and its Historical Roots”, shows the Iraqi government was aware of the nefarious purposes of the Wahhabis of Saudi Arabia, often known as Salafis, in serving Western interests to undermine Islam.

The report relies heavily on the Memoirs of Mr. Hempher, which describe in detail how a British spy to the Middle East, in the middle of the eighteenth century, made contact with Adbul Wahhab, to create a subversive version of Islam, the notorious sect of Wahhabism, which became the founding cult of the Saudi regime.  The movement was temporarily suppressed by the Ottomam armies in the middle of the nineteenth century.  But with the assistance of the British, the Wahhabis and their Saudi sponsors returned to power and founded their own state in 1932.  Since then, the Saudis have collaborated closely with the Americans, to whom they owe their tremendous oil wealth, in funding various Islamic fundamentalist organizations and other American covert operations, particularly the "jihad" in Afghanistan.  But the Saudis simulatenously use the immense wealth at their dispossal to disseminate this disruptive brand of Islam to various parts of the world, categorized by some of the largest propaganda campaign in history.

Many who defend Wahhabism as a legitimate reform movement of Islam have tried to dismiss the Memoirs as a spurious fabrication.  These include Bernard Haykel, Professor in Near Eastern Studies at Princeton University, who, without providing any evidence, presumes the Memoirs to have been created by Ayyub Sabri Pasha.

However, while the Memoirs only emerged in the 1970s, Pasha wrote his version of the story already in 1888.  Ayyub Sabri Pasha was a well-known Ottoman writer and Turkish naval admiral, who served the Ottoman army in the Arabian Pensinsula, writing several works about the region and it's history.  Including The Beginning and Spreading of Wahhabism, where he recounts Abdul Wahhab's association and plotting with Hempher.

In addition to that revealed in the Hempher Memoirs, the Iraqi intelligence report also makes known some surprising claims, derived from works circulated in Arabic which have not been translated into English.  As the report recounts, both Abdul Wahhab, and his sponsor, ibn Saud, who founded the Saudi dynasty, were of Jewish origin.

For example, D. Mustafa Turan wrote, in The Donmeh Jews, that Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab was a descendant of a family of Donmeh Jews from Turkey.  The Donmeh were descendants of followers of the infamous false-messiah of Judaism, Shabbetai Zevi, who shocked the Jewish world in 1666 by converting to Islam.  Viewing it as a sacred mystery, Zevi's followers imitated his conversion to Islam, though secretly keeping to their Kabbalistic doctrines.  In Europe, the Shabbeteans were eventually led a century later by Jacob Frank, claiming to be a reincarnation of Zevi.  And, according to Rabbi Antelman in To Eliminate the Opiate, to them belonged the Rothschilds who had a hand in the founding of the Bavarian Illuminati.  The Donmeh community of Turkey were concentrated in the city of Salonika, which became a hotbed of Masonic activity, and from which the Young Turk movement evolved, which aided in the collapse of the Muslim empire of the Ottoman Turks.  There is evidence that Ataturk himself, the founder of the modern Turkish state, was of Donmeh origin as well.

Turan maintains that Abdul Wahhab's grandfather, Sulayman was actually Shulman, having belonged to the Jewish community of Bursa in Turkey.  From there he settled in Damascus, where he feigned Islam, but was apparently expelled for practicing sorcery.  He then fled to Egypt and he again faced condemnation, so made his way he to the Hijaz, where he got married and fathered Abdul Wahhab. According to the report, the same is claimed in The Donmeh Jews and the Origin of the Saudi Wahabis, Rifat Salim Kabar.

The notion of the Saudi family being of Jewish heritage has been published by Mohammad Sakher, who, it is claimed, was ordered killed by the regime for his revelations.  The report relates a similar account, but from different sources.  According The Wahabi Movement/The Truth and Roots, by Abdul Wahhab Ibrahim Al-Shammari, for example, ibn Saud is actually descended from Mordechai bin Ibrahim bin Mushi, a Jewish merchant from Basra.  Apparently, when he was approached by members from the Arabian tribe of Aniza, then claimed to be one of them, and traveled with them to Najd and his name became Markhan bin Ibrahim bin Musa.

Additionally, Abdul Wahhab was descended from Wahib Al-Tamimi, so, as reported by al Said Nasir, in The History of the Saud Family, the Saudi ambassador in Cairo, Abdullah bin Ibrahim al Mufaddal, paid Muhammad Al-Tamimi thirty five thousand Jinee in the year 1943, to forge a family tree of the Saudi family and that of Abdul Wahhab, and merge them into one, claiming their origin from the Prophet Mohammed.

While it would be difficult to independantly authenticate these claims, they are interesting in light of the role that the state of Saudi Arabia has and continues to play with regards to supporting and advancing Western power in the Middle East and elsewhere.  Especially astounding is the very dubious and virulent form of Islam, that Wahhabism and Salafism represent, which is currently wrecking havoc on Islamic traditions, and dividing the Muslim community in petty squabbles over trivial details, allowing the War on Islam to proceed effectively unchecked.

 http://www.terrorism-illuminati.com/content/2002-iraqi-intel-reported-wahhabis-are-jewish-origin 

Edited by Muhammad_Bin_AbuBakr, 06 August 2011 - 08:55 PM.

عدة من أصحابنا، عن أحمد بن محمد، عن ابن فضال، عن علي بن عقبة، عن أبيه قال: سمعت أبا عبدالله عليه السلام يقول: اجعلوا أمركم لله، ولا تجعلوه للناس فإنه ما كان لله فهو لله، وما كان للناس فلا يصعد إلى الله، ولا تخاصموا الناس لدينكم فإن المخاصمة ممرضة للقلب، إن الله تعالى قال لنبيه صلى الله عليه وآله: " إنك لا تهدي من أحببت ولكن الله يهدي من يشاء " وقال: " أفأنت تكره الناس حتى يكونوا مؤمنين " ذروا الناس فإن الناس أخذوا عن الناس وإنكم أخذتم عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله، إني سمعت أبي عليه السلام يقول: إن الله عزوجل إذا كتب على عبد أن يدخل في هذا الامر كان أسرع إليه من الطير إلى وكره.

A number of our companions from Ahmad b. Muhammad from ibn Faddal from Ali b. ‘Uqba from his father. He said: I heard Abu ‘Abdallah (عليه السلام) saying: Make your affair for Allah and do not make it for the people. Whatever is for Allah then it is for Allah. And whatever is for people will not ascend to Allah. Do not quarrel with the people about your religion because quarreling sickens the heart. Allah عزوجل said to His Prophet صلى الله عليه وآله “Verily you do not guide whomever you love, but Allah guides whomever He wants” (28:56). “Would you compel the people until they be believers?" (10:99). Leave the people alone because the people have taken from people and you have taken from the Messenger of Allahصلى الله عليه وآله . I heard my father (عليه السلام) saying, "When Allah عزوجل writes for a servant to enter in this affair he will be faster to it than the bird to its nest." (al-Kafi)

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 09:18 PM

hmmm... the name of the website "Terrorist-Illuminati" sounds like a conspiracy website, I know there were many jews in the Arabian peninsula who adopted Islam, but I mean how can you say that the followers of a certain person are jews? the term "Wahhabi" is given to a person who follows Sheikh Muhamamd ibn 'Abdul-Wahhab regardless whether the follower is from Saudi, Egypt or Spain... if you were to say the tribe of "Aal-Saud" have Jewish origins then it'd be more realistic and then you have to find qualified scholars (genealogists) to prove this by tracking their lineage .

anyway...meh.

Edited by TripolySunni, 06 August 2011 - 09:19 PM.

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 09:52 PM

even if it's true who cares, what does it change? Big Sunnah scholars from Saudi are barely of Saudi (the TRIBE) descent. And here, another "Wahhabi", the Mushrik Ahmadinejaf who is REALLY of jewish descent:

http://www.telegraph...ewish-past.html

now in his case, the proofs seem to be much clearer.

Not to forget the Jewish anti-christ of the Rafidah, whom they call "Sahib Al Zaman" (OWNER of the time! what a shirki title, of course he is NOT the MUSLIM Mahdi):


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Imam Ibn Al-Mubarak (one of the Leading Imams of the Salaf) - رحمه الله تعالى- said: 'The Deen is for the Ahl Al-Hadith, Kalaam and tricks for the Ahl Al-Rai and lies are for the Rafidah'.


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Posted 06 August 2011 - 11:03 PM

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2002 Iraqi Intel Reported Wahhabis Are of Jewish Origin
Submitted by David Livingstone on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 18:33

The U.S. Department of Defense has released translations of a number of Iraqi intelligence documents dating from Saddam’s rule.  One, a General Military Intelligence Directorate report from September 2002, entitled “The Emergence of Wahhabism and its Historical Roots”, shows the Iraqi government was aware of the nefarious purposes of the Wahhabis of Saudi Arabia, often known as Salafis, in serving Western interests to undermine Islam.

The report relies heavily on the Memoirs of Mr. Hempher, which describe in detail how a British spy to the Middle East, in the middle of the eighteenth century, made contact with Adbul Wahhab, to create a subversive version of Islam, the notorious sect of Wahhabism, which became the founding cult of the Saudi regime.  The movement was temporarily suppressed by the Ottomam armies in the middle of the nineteenth century.  But with the assistance of the British, the Wahhabis and their Saudi sponsors returned to power and founded their own state in 1932.  Since then, the Saudis have collaborated closely with the Americans, to whom they owe their tremendous oil wealth, in funding various Islamic fundamentalist organizations and other American covert operations, particularly the "jihad" in Afghanistan.  But the Saudis simulatenously use the immense wealth at their dispossal to disseminate this disruptive brand of Islam to various parts of the world, categorized by some of the largest propaganda campaign in history.

Many who defend Wahhabism as a legitimate reform movement of Islam have tried to dismiss the Memoirs as a spurious fabrication.  These include Bernard Haykel, Professor in Near Eastern Studies at Princeton University, who, without providing any evidence, presumes the Memoirs to have been created by Ayyub Sabri Pasha.

However, while the Memoirs only emerged in the 1970s, Pasha wrote his version of the story already in 1888.  Ayyub Sabri Pasha was a well-known Ottoman writer and Turkish naval admiral, who served the Ottoman army in the Arabian Pensinsula, writing several works about the region and it's history.  Including The Beginning and Spreading of Wahhabism, where he recounts Abdul Wahhab's association and plotting with Hempher.

In addition to that revealed in the Hempher Memoirs, the Iraqi intelligence report also makes known some surprising claims, derived from works circulated in Arabic which have not been translated into English.  As the report recounts, both Abdul Wahhab, and his sponsor, ibn Saud, who founded the Saudi dynasty, were of Jewish origin.

For example, D. Mustafa Turan wrote, in The Donmeh Jews, that Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab was a descendant of a family of Donmeh Jews from Turkey.  The Donmeh were descendants of followers of the infamous false-messiah of Judaism, Shabbetai Zevi, who shocked the Jewish world in 1666 by converting to Islam.  Viewing it as a sacred mystery, Zevi's followers imitated his conversion to Islam, though secretly keeping to their Kabbalistic doctrines.  In Europe, the Shabbeteans were eventually led a century later by Jacob Frank, claiming to be a reincarnation of Zevi.  And, according to Rabbi Antelman in To Eliminate the Opiate, to them belonged the Rothschilds who had a hand in the founding of the Bavarian Illuminati.  The Donmeh community of Turkey were concentrated in the city of Salonika, which became a hotbed of Masonic activity, and from which the Young Turk movement evolved, which aided in the collapse of the Muslim empire of the Ottoman Turks.  There is evidence that Ataturk himself, the founder of the modern Turkish state, was of Donmeh origin as well.

Turan maintains that Abdul Wahhab's grandfather, Sulayman was actually Shulman, having belonged to the Jewish community of Bursa in Turkey.  From there he settled in Damascus, where he feigned Islam, but was apparently expelled for practicing sorcery.  He then fled to Egypt and he again faced condemnation, so made his way he to the Hijaz, where he got married and fathered Abdul Wahhab. According to the report, the same is claimed in The Donmeh Jews and the Origin of the Saudi Wahabis, Rifat Salim Kabar.

The notion of the Saudi family being of Jewish heritage has been published by Mohammad Sakher, who, it is claimed, was ordered killed by the regime for his revelations.  The report relates a similar account, but from different sources.  According The Wahabi Movement/The Truth and Roots, by Abdul Wahhab Ibrahim Al-Shammari, for example, ibn Saud is actually descended from Mordechai bin Ibrahim bin Mushi, a Jewish merchant from Basra.  Apparently, when he was approached by members from the Arabian tribe of Aniza, then claimed to be one of them, and traveled with them to Najd and his name became Markhan bin Ibrahim bin Musa.

Additionally, Abdul Wahhab was descended from Wahib Al-Tamimi, so, as reported by al Said Nasir, in The History of the Saud Family, the Saudi ambassador in Cairo, Abdullah bin Ibrahim al Mufaddal, paid Muhammad Al-Tamimi thirty five thousand Jinee in the year 1943, to forge a family tree of the Saudi family and that of Abdul Wahhab, and merge them into one, claiming their origin from the Prophet Mohammed.

While it would be difficult to independantly authenticate these claims, they are interesting in light of the role that the state of Saudi Arabia has and continues to play with regards to supporting and advancing Western power in the Middle East and elsewhere.  Especially astounding is the very dubious and virulent form of Islam, that Wahhabism and Salafism represent, which is currently wrecking havoc on Islamic traditions, and dividing the Muslim community in petty squabbles over trivial details, allowing the War on Islam to proceed effectively unchecked.

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 11:26 PM

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عدة من أصحابنا، عن أحمد بن محمد، عن ابن فضال، عن علي بن عقبة، عن أبيه قال: سمعت أبا عبدالله عليه السلام يقول: اجعلوا أمركم لله، ولا تجعلوه للناس فإنه ما كان لله فهو لله، وما كان للناس فلا يصعد إلى الله، ولا تخاصموا الناس لدينكم فإن المخاصمة ممرضة للقلب، إن الله تعالى قال لنبيه صلى الله عليه وآله: " إنك لا تهدي من أحببت ولكن الله يهدي من يشاء " وقال: " أفأنت تكره الناس حتى يكونوا مؤمنين " ذروا الناس فإن الناس أخذوا عن الناس وإنكم أخذتم عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله، إني سمعت أبي عليه السلام يقول: إن الله عزوجل إذا كتب على عبد أن يدخل في هذا الامر كان أسرع إليه من الطير إلى وكره.

A number of our companions from Ahmad b. Muhammad from ibn Faddal from Ali b. ‘Uqba from his father. He said: I heard Abu ‘Abdallah (عليه السلام) saying: Make your affair for Allah and do not make it for the people. Whatever is for Allah then it is for Allah. And whatever is for people will not ascend to Allah. Do not quarrel with the people about your religion because quarreling sickens the heart. Allah عزوجل said to His Prophet صلى الله عليه وآله “Verily you do not guide whomever you love, but Allah guides whomever He wants” (28:56). “Would you compel the people until they be believers?" (10:99). Leave the people alone because the people have taken from people and you have taken from the Messenger of Allahصلى الله عليه وآله . I heard my father (عليه السلام) saying, "When Allah عزوجل writes for a servant to enter in this affair he will be faster to it than the bird to its nest." (al-Kafi)

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 11:29 PM

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عدة من أصحابنا، عن أحمد بن محمد، عن ابن فضال، عن علي بن عقبة، عن أبيه قال: سمعت أبا عبدالله عليه السلام يقول: اجعلوا أمركم لله، ولا تجعلوه للناس فإنه ما كان لله فهو لله، وما كان للناس فلا يصعد إلى الله، ولا تخاصموا الناس لدينكم فإن المخاصمة ممرضة للقلب، إن الله تعالى قال لنبيه صلى الله عليه وآله: " إنك لا تهدي من أحببت ولكن الله يهدي من يشاء " وقال: " أفأنت تكره الناس حتى يكونوا مؤمنين " ذروا الناس فإن الناس أخذوا عن الناس وإنكم أخذتم عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله، إني سمعت أبي عليه السلام يقول: إن الله عزوجل إذا كتب على عبد أن يدخل في هذا الامر كان أسرع إليه من الطير إلى وكره.

A number of our companions from Ahmad b. Muhammad from ibn Faddal from Ali b. ‘Uqba from his father. He said: I heard Abu ‘Abdallah (عليه السلام) saying: Make your affair for Allah and do not make it for the people. Whatever is for Allah then it is for Allah. And whatever is for people will not ascend to Allah. Do not quarrel with the people about your religion because quarreling sickens the heart. Allah عزوجل said to His Prophet صلى الله عليه وآله “Verily you do not guide whomever you love, but Allah guides whomever He wants” (28:56). “Would you compel the people until they be believers?" (10:99). Leave the people alone because the people have taken from people and you have taken from the Messenger of Allahصلى الله عليه وآله . I heard my father (عليه السلام) saying, "When Allah عزوجل writes for a servant to enter in this affair he will be faster to it than the bird to its nest." (al-Kafi)

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 11:31 PM

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عدة من أصحابنا، عن أحمد بن محمد، عن ابن فضال، عن علي بن عقبة، عن أبيه قال: سمعت أبا عبدالله عليه السلام يقول: اجعلوا أمركم لله، ولا تجعلوه للناس فإنه ما كان لله فهو لله، وما كان للناس فلا يصعد إلى الله، ولا تخاصموا الناس لدينكم فإن المخاصمة ممرضة للقلب، إن الله تعالى قال لنبيه صلى الله عليه وآله: " إنك لا تهدي من أحببت ولكن الله يهدي من يشاء " وقال: " أفأنت تكره الناس حتى يكونوا مؤمنين " ذروا الناس فإن الناس أخذوا عن الناس وإنكم أخذتم عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله، إني سمعت أبي عليه السلام يقول: إن الله عزوجل إذا كتب على عبد أن يدخل في هذا الامر كان أسرع إليه من الطير إلى وكره.

A number of our companions from Ahmad b. Muhammad from ibn Faddal from Ali b. ‘Uqba from his father. He said: I heard Abu ‘Abdallah (عليه السلام) saying: Make your affair for Allah and do not make it for the people. Whatever is for Allah then it is for Allah. And whatever is for people will not ascend to Allah. Do not quarrel with the people about your religion because quarreling sickens the heart. Allah عزوجل said to His Prophet صلى الله عليه وآله “Verily you do not guide whomever you love, but Allah guides whomever He wants” (28:56). “Would you compel the people until they be believers?" (10:99). Leave the people alone because the people have taken from people and you have taken from the Messenger of Allahصلى الله عليه وآله . I heard my father (عليه السلام) saying, "When Allah عزوجل writes for a servant to enter in this affair he will be faster to it than the bird to its nest." (al-Kafi)

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 11:35 PM

Obama is Jewish too?

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 11:41 PM

LOL @ King 'Abdullah, he's living in another world this man.
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Posted 06 August 2011 - 11:51 PM

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opps! Saborjian .. I mean ... Ahmadinejad the Rafidi of jewish origin with the king of "jews"?

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Edited by Faylaq Omar, 06 August 2011 - 11:51 PM.

قال عبدالله بن المبارك - رحمه الله تعالى- : (الدين لأهل الحديث، والكلام والحيل لأهل الرأى، والكذب للرافضة

Imam Ibn Al-Mubarak (one of the Leading Imams of the Salaf) - رحمه الله تعالى- said: 'The Deen is for the Ahl Al-Hadith, Kalaam and tricks for the Ahl Al-Rai and lies are for the Rafidah'.


قد قيل فيما مضى في الحمق منزلة * للرافضـي فغـارت منكـم البقـر

لو أنني كنت فردا فـي عقيدتكـم * صعدت اعلى مباني الأرض انتحر


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Posted 06 August 2011 - 11:54 PM

View PostMuhammad_Bin_AbuBakr, on 06 August 2011 - 11:29 PM, said:

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look Rafidi:

Saddam, King Abdallah of Saudi: Non-Scholars, never represent Islam and Ahl Al-Sunnah.

Whereas your persian Ayadollar$ do represent your cult, and look who's friend they are:

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that's btw abdulaziz hakim, the brother of the rotten ayatollah baqir al hakim. Abdulaziz (who also died) was set up by the IRANIAN JEWISH RAFIDI gov.

"death to america" ... yea right ...

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Imam Ibn Al-Mubarak (one of the Leading Imams of the Salaf) - رحمه الله تعالى- said: 'The Deen is for the Ahl Al-Hadith, Kalaam and tricks for the Ahl Al-Rai and lies are for the Rafidah'.


قد قيل فيما مضى في الحمق منزلة * للرافضـي فغـارت منكـم البقـر

لو أنني كنت فردا فـي عقيدتكـم * صعدت اعلى مباني الأرض انتحر


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Posted 07 August 2011 - 05:10 AM

View PostFaylaq Omar, on 06 August 2011 - 11:54 PM, said:

look Rafidi:

Saddam, King Abdallah of Saudi: Non-Scholars, never represent Islam and Ahl Al-Sunnah.

Whereas your persian Ayadollar$ do represent your cult, and look who's friend they are:


good point, but these peoples hardly understand this fact!!

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 05:25 AM

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2002 Iraqi Intel Reported Wahhabis Are of Jewish Origin
Submitted by David Livingstone on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 18:33

The U.S. Department of Defense has released translations of a number of Iraqi intelligence documents dating from Saddam’s rule.  One, a General Military Intelligence Directorate report from September 2002, entitled “The Emergence of Wahhabism and its Historical Roots”, shows the Iraqi government was aware of the nefarious purposes of the Wahhabis of Saudi Arabia, often known as Salafis, in serving Western interests to undermine Islam.

The report relies heavily on the Memoirs of Mr. Hempher, which describe in detail how a British spy to the Middle East, in the middle of the eighteenth century, made contact with Adbul Wahhab, to create a subversive version of Islam, the notorious sect of Wahhabism, which became the founding cult of the Saudi regime.  The movement was temporarily suppressed by the Ottomam armies in the middle of the nineteenth century.  But with the assistance of the British, the Wahhabis and their Saudi sponsors returned to power and founded their own state in 1932.  Since then, the Saudis have collaborated closely with the Americans, to whom they owe their tremendous oil wealth, in funding various Islamic fundamentalist organizations and other American covert operations, particularly the "jihad" in Afghanistan.  But the Saudis simulatenously use the immense wealth at their dispossal to disseminate this disruptive brand of Islam to various parts of the world, categorized by some of the largest propaganda campaign in history.

Many who defend Wahhabism as a legitimate reform movement of Islam have tried to dismiss the Memoirs as a spurious fabrication.  These include Bernard Haykel, Professor in Near Eastern Studies at Princeton University, who, without providing any evidence, presumes the Memoirs to have been created by Ayyub Sabri Pasha.

However, while the Memoirs only emerged in the 1970s, Pasha wrote his version of the story already in 1888.  Ayyub Sabri Pasha was a well-known Ottoman writer and Turkish naval admiral, who served the Ottoman army in the Arabian Pensinsula, writing several works about the region and it's history.  Including The Beginning and Spreading of Wahhabism, where he recounts Abdul Wahhab's association and plotting with Hempher.

In addition to that revealed in the Hempher Memoirs, the Iraqi intelligence report also makes known some surprising claims, derived from works circulated in Arabic which have not been translated into English.  As the report recounts, both Abdul Wahhab, and his sponsor, ibn Saud, who founded the Saudi dynasty, were of Jewish origin.

For example, D. Mustafa Turan wrote, in The Donmeh Jews, that Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab was a descendant of a family of Donmeh Jews from Turkey.  The Donmeh were descendants of followers of the infamous false-messiah of Judaism, Shabbetai Zevi, who shocked the Jewish world in 1666 by converting to Islam.  Viewing it as a sacred mystery, Zevi's followers imitated his conversion to Islam, though secretly keeping to their Kabbalistic doctrines.  In Europe, the Shabbeteans were eventually led a century later by Jacob Frank, claiming to be a reincarnation of Zevi.  And, according to Rabbi Antelman in To Eliminate the Opiate, to them belonged the Rothschilds who had a hand in the founding of the Bavarian Illuminati.  The Donmeh community of Turkey were concentrated in the city of Salonika, which became a hotbed of Masonic activity, and from which the Young Turk movement evolved, which aided in the collapse of the Muslim empire of the Ottoman Turks.  There is evidence that Ataturk himself, the founder of the modern Turkish state, was of Donmeh origin as well.

Turan maintains that Abdul Wahhab's grandfather, Sulayman was actually Shulman, having belonged to the Jewish community of Bursa in Turkey.  From there he settled in Damascus, where he feigned Islam, but was apparently expelled for practicing sorcery.  He then fled to Egypt and he again faced condemnation, so made his way he to the Hijaz, where he got married and fathered Abdul Wahhab. According to the report, the same is claimed in The Donmeh Jews and the Origin of the Saudi Wahabis, Rifat Salim Kabar.

The notion of the Saudi family being of Jewish heritage has been published by Mohammad Sakher, who, it is claimed, was ordered killed by the regime for his revelations.  The report relates a similar account, but from different sources.  According The Wahabi Movement/The Truth and Roots, by Abdul Wahhab Ibrahim Al-Shammari, for example, ibn Saud is actually descended from Mordechai bin Ibrahim bin Mushi, a Jewish merchant from Basra.  Apparently, when he was approached by members from the Arabian tribe of Aniza, then claimed to be one of them, and traveled with them to Najd and his name became Markhan bin Ibrahim bin Musa.

Additionally, Abdul Wahhab was descended from Wahib Al-Tamimi, so, as reported by al Said Nasir, in The History of the Saud Family, the Saudi ambassador in Cairo, Abdullah bin Ibrahim al Mufaddal, paid Muhammad Al-Tamimi thirty five thousand Jinee in the year 1943, to forge a family tree of the Saudi family and that of Abdul Wahhab, and merge them into one, claiming their origin from the Prophet Mohammed.

While it would be difficult to independantly authenticate these claims, they are interesting in light of the role that the state of Saudi Arabia has and continues to play with regards to supporting and advancing Western power in the Middle East and elsewhere.  Especially astounding is the very dubious and virulent form of Islam, that Wahhabism and Salafism represent, which is currently wrecking havoc on Islamic traditions, and dividing the Muslim community in petty squabbles over trivial details, allowing the War on Islam to proceed effectively unchecked.

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seems u r enjoying posting here!! if these type of things u did in ur forums, then ofcourse u got a ban & here u r not getting single warning!!

But let me warn u: May be ur this type of behavior will raise ur warning status in future.. so be polite & discuss islamic matters.

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 05:28 AM

The Iranian President has  Jewish roots too.

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Ahmadinejad showing papers during election. It shows that his family's previous name was Jewish

http://www.telegraph...ewish-past.html

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The Jews in Iran have more freedom than Sunnis too.
In Tehran there is a Jewish synagog and even a Sikh Guruwara. Yet there is no Sunni mosque allowed.

Also refer to this clip.


Edited by Abdaal, 07 August 2011 - 05:32 AM.

If  negating the  term kaffir from Shias, and opposing the  monopolization of the term momin makes me a non-Sunni then I am a non-Sunni.

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 06:30 AM

http://uk.news.yahoo...-084029420.html

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 09:56 AM

View PostAbdaal, on 07 August 2011 - 05:28 AM, said:

The Iranian President has  Jewish roots too.

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Ahmadinejad showing papers during election. It shows that his family's previous name was Jewish

http://www.telegraph...ewish-past.html

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The Jews in Iran have more freedom than Sunnis too.
In Tehran there is a Jewish synagog and even a Sikh Guruwara. Yet there is no Sunni mosque allowed.

Also refer to this clip.




Mosques are neither Shias nor Sunnies, but they are only House of Allah

There is great stress upon Shia/Sunni Unity in Iran and Imam Khomeini was biggest supporter for this unity.
1. The Constitution of Iran and Imam Khomeini was very clear that labeling Mosques as Shia or Sunni is division of Muslim Unity. It is a curse to say this is Shia Mosque or this is Sunni Mosque. Nay, all Mosques are only and only for Allah.
2. Iranian Law says:
If there is an Area where majority is of SHIAs, then Sunni are asked to pray behind Shia Imam.
While Areas, where there is Sunni Majority, there Shias are also asked to go in that same Sunni Mosque and pray behind the Sunni Imam and they are not allowed to open up their any Separate Mosque.

There may be few deviations to this RULE, but in 80-90% this rules is practiced in it's sprit and indeed Shias are compelled to pray behind Sunni Imams.
Even Ayatullah Khaminei and all Shia Mujtahids themselves prayed several times behind Sunni Imams and that without any problem.
Note:

Please note, you could not compare the Situation of Iran to Saudia. The Saudies are hypocrites. There is neither any Shia Mosque in Mecca and Madina and many other cities of Saudia, but also no Salafies in Shia Areas are not asked to pray behind Shia Imams, but they deal Saudi Shias as dirty creatures. Still these dirty Nasibi Mullas raise not a single voice upon this worst behaviour of Saudi regime against Shias.
Situation of Mosques in Pakistan

On every Road of Pakistan, you will find at least 3-4 Mosques.
1st Mosque belongs to Ahlehadith. Ten meters away there is another mosque and it belongs to Deobandies. Another 25 meters away there is another mosque of Barailwi Muslims. And another 10 meters away there is a Shia mosque.
Is it really good to have 3-4 different Mosques (the Hauses of Allah) at every road? Does it really leads towards Muslim unity?
And worst scence is present in Europe, where in Hamburg (Germany) there are 3 Different Mosques in one same Building. The Christians laugh at it.
IRAN: There are 10000 Ahle Sunnah Mosques in Iran where Sunni Imams lead the Prayer

The Fasiq Fitna mongers keep on coming with every type of false accusations in order to incite hatred among the Muslim Ummah. While Allah (swt) says to esquire if any Fasiq brings you a news. The reality is:

    There are totally 70000 Mosques in Iran.
    While 10000 of them are from Ahle-Sunnah Brothers and Sunni Imams lead their the prayers.
    This means, for every 500 Sunnies there is one Mosque in Iran, while for 1100 Shias there is only one mosque.

Iranian Law states, there is no Shia Mosque or Sunni Mosque, but all Mosques are Houses of Allah. The areas where Sunnies are in majority, there Shias are not allowed to make their separate mosques, but to go and pray behind the Sunni Imam and vice versa. It may be in some areas there is corruption and deviation from this Rule, but where in world things are 100% corruption free? In general Shias have absolutely no Problems in praying behind Sunni Imams in Iran and Vice Versa.
Here is the Complete Article
عدة من أصحابنا، عن أحمد بن محمد، عن ابن فضال، عن علي بن عقبة، عن أبيه قال: سمعت أبا عبدالله عليه السلام يقول: اجعلوا أمركم لله، ولا تجعلوه للناس فإنه ما كان لله فهو لله، وما كان للناس فلا يصعد إلى الله، ولا تخاصموا الناس لدينكم فإن المخاصمة ممرضة للقلب، إن الله تعالى قال لنبيه صلى الله عليه وآله: " إنك لا تهدي من أحببت ولكن الله يهدي من يشاء " وقال: " أفأنت تكره الناس حتى يكونوا مؤمنين " ذروا الناس فإن الناس أخذوا عن الناس وإنكم أخذتم عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله، إني سمعت أبي عليه السلام يقول: إن الله عزوجل إذا كتب على عبد أن يدخل في هذا الامر كان أسرع إليه من الطير إلى وكره.

A number of our companions from Ahmad b. Muhammad from ibn Faddal from Ali b. ‘Uqba from his father. He said: I heard Abu ‘Abdallah (عليه السلام) saying: Make your affair for Allah and do not make it for the people. Whatever is for Allah then it is for Allah. And whatever is for people will not ascend to Allah. Do not quarrel with the people about your religion because quarreling sickens the heart. Allah عزوجل said to His Prophet صلى الله عليه وآله “Verily you do not guide whomever you love, but Allah guides whomever He wants” (28:56). “Would you compel the people until they be believers?" (10:99). Leave the people alone because the people have taken from people and you have taken from the Messenger of Allahصلى الله عليه وآله . I heard my father (عليه السلام) saying, "When Allah عزوجل writes for a servant to enter in this affair he will be faster to it than the bird to its nest." (al-Kafi)

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 09:58 AM

SUNNI LEADS IN TEHRAN MOSQUE:


عدة من أصحابنا، عن أحمد بن محمد، عن ابن فضال، عن علي بن عقبة، عن أبيه قال: سمعت أبا عبدالله عليه السلام يقول: اجعلوا أمركم لله، ولا تجعلوه للناس فإنه ما كان لله فهو لله، وما كان للناس فلا يصعد إلى الله، ولا تخاصموا الناس لدينكم فإن المخاصمة ممرضة للقلب، إن الله تعالى قال لنبيه صلى الله عليه وآله: " إنك لا تهدي من أحببت ولكن الله يهدي من يشاء " وقال: " أفأنت تكره الناس حتى يكونوا مؤمنين " ذروا الناس فإن الناس أخذوا عن الناس وإنكم أخذتم عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله، إني سمعت أبي عليه السلام يقول: إن الله عزوجل إذا كتب على عبد أن يدخل في هذا الامر كان أسرع إليه من الطير إلى وكره.

A number of our companions from Ahmad b. Muhammad from ibn Faddal from Ali b. ‘Uqba from his father. He said: I heard Abu ‘Abdallah (عليه السلام) saying: Make your affair for Allah and do not make it for the people. Whatever is for Allah then it is for Allah. And whatever is for people will not ascend to Allah. Do not quarrel with the people about your religion because quarreling sickens the heart. Allah عزوجل said to His Prophet صلى الله عليه وآله “Verily you do not guide whomever you love, but Allah guides whomever He wants” (28:56). “Would you compel the people until they be believers?" (10:99). Leave the people alone because the people have taken from people and you have taken from the Messenger of Allahصلى الله عليه وآله . I heard my father (عليه السلام) saying, "When Allah عزوجل writes for a servant to enter in this affair he will be faster to it than the bird to its nest." (al-Kafi)

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 10:35 AM

View PostMuhammad_Bin_AbuBakr, on 07 August 2011 - 09:58 AM, said:

SUNNI LEADS IN TEHRAN MOSQUE:



This is Khaled Misha'al and the clip is only advertisement for the Iranian regime, ask the Sunnies that live in Tehran if you want to know the truth.
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Posted 07 August 2011 - 01:25 PM

^

If it is true that it is said that there should be unity among muslims by them, this can either be due to a number of things:

1. It is either because the definition of a "Muslim" is totally different from ours, since it comes in the books of the Twelver Shia religion that whoever does not accept the Imamah of the "Infallible Imams" will meet his destination in Hellfire. So from here it is obvious that "Muslims" means something other than what we know of. In such a case, their praying behind us may be due to some exception found in their books, but not as a true show of 'unity'.

2. If they really mean it in the sense that our differences are small, they have lost all right to argue with us, because whenever the differences are small, this means that the base of the religion is almost the same - that is, the Dharuriyat are the same without any side adding anything to it due to their specific ideologies. If such was the case, then the doctrine of 'Infallible Imamah' as held by the Shias for so many centuries would have been summarily thrown out of the window since they would have dropped it as being one of the necessities of their religion and their madhab.

For me, it seems more like option number #1 is at work in here.

With respect to Salafis not praying in Shia masjids, then this is generally true of all the Sunni Shuyukh who know about the Shia religion - or at least those who know about the Shia Fiqh of prayer and purification. With respect to Haniyeh, his actions do not count since he is not an 'Aalim, and proof is not taken from the actions of the laymen, even if those laymen in terms of knwoledge hold high political positions.

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 01:39 PM

Wow, pointless article!
{ إن الذين فرَّقوا دينهم } باختلافهم فيه فأخذوا بعضه وتركوا بعضه { وكانوا شيعا } فرقا في ذلك، وفي قراءة فارقوا أي تركوا دينهم الذي أمروا به وهم اليهود والنصارى { لست منهم في شيء } أي فلا تتعرض لهم { إنما أمرهم إلى الله } يتولاه { ثم ينبِّئهم } في الآخرة { بما كانوا يفعلون } فيجازيهم به وهذا منسوخ بآيه السيف .

Indeed, those who have divided their religion and become sects - you, [O Muhammad], are not [associated] with them in anything. Their affair is only [left] to Allah ; then He will inform them about what they used to do.

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