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Update (04/10/2013) : 222 Urdu PDF Books on Shia refutation - ردِ شیعہ پر 222 اردو پی ڈی ایف کتابیں


There is no need of HUJJAH

Started By Salafi al-Farsi , Jan 08 2006 03:53 AM

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#1 Salafi al-Farsi

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Posted 08 January 2006 - 03:53 AM

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An-Nisa (The Women)  

4:165 [We sent all these] apostles as heralds of glad tidings and as warners, so that men might have no excuse before God after [the coming of] these apostles: and God is indeed almighty, wise.

Topics discussed in this Verse:
[Messengers:bringers of glad tidings and warners] [Messengers]

Rusulan mubashshireena wamunthireena lialla yakoona lilnnasi AAala Allahi hujjatun baAAda alrrusuli wakana Allahu AAazeezan hakeeman

    رُّسُلاً مُّبَشِّرِينَ وَمُنذِرِينَ لِئَلاَّ يَكُونَ لِلنَّاسِ عَلَى اللّهِ حُجَّةٌ بَعْدَ الرُّسُلِ وَكَانَ اللّهُ عَزِيزًا حَكِيمًا


this is completly against the rafidha thought that we must have a HUJJAH in every period of time....

so their is  no necassery for a Hujjah after muhammad sas the almighty creator dont need a naked pegan dajjal whos in a cave and without him the world and universe even whouldnt exists!!!!


Allah swt will send al-mahdi and not a naked cave Dajjal  whoshiding himself  in a cave

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    "As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects (Shiites), you have no part in them in the least: their affair is with Allah: He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did." (6:159)

In this verse, God warns us not to divide ourselves into Shiites and declare people who do so as people who don't belong to the prophet Muhammad sas


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Edited by Salafi al-Farsi, 08 January 2006 - 05:52 PM.

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Posted 08 January 2006 - 04:30 AM

alaykum salam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

Very good point akhee. I wish that a shia with some ilm can comment on the post please inshaAllah.
'One of the signs of Ahl us-sunnah is their love for the aa'immah of the Sunnah, the scholars, its friends and allies. They show enmity to the leaders of bid'ah, who are calling to hell and leading its followers to the place of failure. Indeed Allah, the One Free from all deficiencies, has adorned the hearts of ahl us-sunnah and englightened them by instilling a love for the scholars as a favour from Him, The Most Majestic' Aboo Uthmaan ismaa'eel ibn Abdur Rahmaan as-Saaboonee(d449) in his work (The Creed of the people of Hadeeth)

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Posted 08 January 2006 - 10:52 PM

MostafaAs-salafi, on Jan 8 2006, 09:30 AM, said:

alaykum salam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

Very good point akhee. I wish that a shia with some ilm can comment on the post please inshaAllah.

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Is it even proper to call Prophet http://islamic-forum...tyle_emoticons/default/image008.gif the Hujjat of Allah?  I may be wrong,  Allaahu Aalim, but this feels like exalting the status of a person to too high a status like the Christians did with Prophet Isa  http://islamic-forum...tyle_emoticons/default/image019.gif ....Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but only if you have Hadith to the contrary.  Jazakahullah.

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Posted 09 January 2006 - 02:57 AM

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akhee jaysh you have a correct mind set may Allah bless you. You are fearing of exalting a being other than Allah. This is beautiful read kitaab at tawheed. Know that we are not like the groups of bidah who say the Prophet  http://islamic-forum...tyle_emoticons/default/image008.gif  is made from light like the sufis and shia say. And the Prophet made clear that he was a human being and he would die like every other human and thing. The maracles he performed are by Allah's permission. His knowledge about future events are by revelation. Keep this mindset akhee so that you do not fall into bidah and shirk. The greatest proof that Allah sent to the Prophet  http://islamic-forum...tyle_emoticons/default/image008.gif  was the quraan which is the speech of Allah. This irrefutable book is the greatest proof and maracle of the Prophet. So in terms of this then the Prophet was a proof of Allah by delivering the message.

Edited by MostafaAs-salafi, 09 January 2006 - 02:58 AM.

'One of the signs of Ahl us-sunnah is their love for the aa'immah of the Sunnah, the scholars, its friends and allies. They show enmity to the leaders of bid'ah, who are calling to hell and leading its followers to the place of failure. Indeed Allah, the One Free from all deficiencies, has adorned the hearts of ahl us-sunnah and englightened them by instilling a love for the scholars as a favour from Him, The Most Majestic' Aboo Uthmaan ismaa'eel ibn Abdur Rahmaan as-Saaboonee(d449) in his work (The Creed of the people of Hadeeth)

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 05:48 PM

now tll me, the christaian had no guidance after jesus- what happened to them?

then why do you deny the need for a hujjah?

yuo who are unguided challenge us, for seeking guidance !

tell me why did islam decline after the prophet http://islamic-forum...tyle_emoticons/default/image008.gif died- bcoz of the lack of guidance for 30+ years

and when Imam Ali (as) came he was dtested no other than the muslim ummah who were being blinded by the wealth of the kufr- so he was muredered by them too

So tell me why shall we not seek guidance? - so we can go astray? so then we can accuse those ont eh right path of being ont he wrong? so we can then make fun of them?

'your wali are just Allah, his Prophet http://islamic-forum...tyle_emoticons/default/image008.gif and those who pray regularly and pay zakat whilst in the state of rukooh' 5:55

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 05:53 PM

the Great Prophet says: 'the similtude of my Ahl-al-Bait is like the ark of noah. whosoever boards it is saved and whosoever does not is surely perished'

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 05:54 PM

I dont know what your blabbering about but why do you explain the ayah as (Whilst in ruku) this is not correct.

Wa (and) is clearly in the arabic text.

Shia are so astray. May Allah guide you all to the path of al islaam Amin ya rabb
'One of the signs of Ahl us-sunnah is their love for the aa'immah of the Sunnah, the scholars, its friends and allies. They show enmity to the leaders of bid'ah, who are calling to hell and leading its followers to the place of failure. Indeed Allah, the One Free from all deficiencies, has adorned the hearts of ahl us-sunnah and englightened them by instilling a love for the scholars as a favour from Him, The Most Majestic' Aboo Uthmaan ismaa'eel ibn Abdur Rahmaan as-Saaboonee(d449) in his work (The Creed of the people of Hadeeth)
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