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Who KILLED AL HUSSEIN
unmasking the other villains
Posted 03 May 2006 - 10:22 AM
Quote I tell you a real story for Aurang Zaib the Mughal king that ruined Islam and a Muslim state in India.
Aurengzeb Alaamgeer was the greatest King and a Muslim of hsi time, it is because of him that Islam survived in Sub continent and he almost got rid of shia and othe rother practises of shirk in the area. For this reason shia hate him, May Allah put people him incharge of muslims.[ameen]
No, Muhammad bin abi bakr did not kill Ameerul Momineen[ra] he was initially part of the group who entered the house, Ameerul momineen held him by beard and reminded him of his[ra] relation with his father[ra], Muhammad bin abi bakr threw his sword down and walked out of the house.
This is what I have read I will look up the refrence inshallah.
This post has been edited by Fatah-Momin: 03 May 2006 - 10:31 AM
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Posted 03 May 2006 - 10:24 AM
Fatah-Momin, on Apr 22 2006, 11:29 AM, said:
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hasanie110, I have noticed since you started posting, you not quoted refrences, infuture post refences to what ever you claim or I will delete the post, if it contain claims, without any refrences with source
Actual topic is who killed hussain?
dear, he was killed by the people who was writing letters and calling him to bestow him caliph. The actual killer were those, on whom hussain had a much trust. But facts were that he was trapped by shian e ali.
Vol 9, Book 88. Sahih Bukhari. Hadith 227. Narrated By Nafi' : When the people of Medina dethroned Yazid bin Muawiya, Ibn 'Umar gathered his special friends and children and said, "I heard the Prophet saying, 'A flag will be fixed for every betrayer on the Day of Resurrection,' and we have given the oath of allegiance to this person (Yazid) in accordance with the conditions enjoined by Allah and His Apostle and I do not know of anything more faithless than fighting a person who has been given the oath of allegiance in accordance with the conditions enjoined by Allah and His Apostle , and if ever I learn that any person among you has agreed to dethrone/disconnect Yazid, by giving the oath of allegiance (to somebody else) then there will be separation between him and me."
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Posted 03 May 2006 - 10:30 AM
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Posted 03 May 2006 - 05:22 PM
Fatah-Momin, on May 3 2006, 10:30 AM, said:
Thanks for providing a fruitfull link.
Really killer of hussain are shian e ali. Furthermore killing of hussain was a political and not religious matter. And this fight was only for caliph.
Vol 9, Book 88. Sahih Bukhari. Hadith 227. Narrated By Nafi' : When the people of Medina dethroned Yazid bin Muawiya, Ibn 'Umar gathered his special friends and children and said, "I heard the Prophet saying, 'A flag will be fixed for every betrayer on the Day of Resurrection,' and we have given the oath of allegiance to this person (Yazid) in accordance with the conditions enjoined by Allah and His Apostle and I do not know of anything more faithless than fighting a person who has been given the oath of allegiance in accordance with the conditions enjoined by Allah and His Apostle , and if ever I learn that any person among you has agreed to dethrone/disconnect Yazid, by giving the oath of allegiance (to somebody else) then there will be separation between him and me."
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Posted 03 May 2006 - 07:21 PM
Yazid, on May 3 2006, 01:22 PM, said:
Thanks for providing a fruitfull link.
Really killer of hussain are shian e ali. Furthermore killing of hussain was a political and not religious matter. And this fight was only for caliph.
lololol...YOU MORON, DO YOU FIGHT FOR CALIPHATE WITH 72 PEOPLE? YOU TOTAL NUTTER!,..NO WONDER UR NAME IS YAZEED...BETTER PUT HARDCORE NEXT TO IT
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Posted 04 May 2006 - 07:59 AM
proudsyed
You are a bigger moron, he did not intend to fight at karbala, Hz. Hussain[ra] intended to reach Kufa and collect his shia to fight for khilafate, In shia books the fiqure claimed is between 18000 to 80000 swords that took pledge on the hand of Hz. Muslim Bin Aqeel[rta]
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Posted 04 May 2006 - 02:13 PM
proudsyed, on May 3 2006, 07:21 PM, said:
lololol...YOU MORON, DO YOU FIGHT FOR CALIPHATE WITH 72 PEOPLE? YOU TOTAL NUTTER!,..NO WONDER UR NAME IS YAZEED...BETTER PUT HARDCORE NEXT TO IT
Your abuses can not prove that hussain's point of view was right. This was purely a capliphate fight. It was not a fight only an incident which occured due to kofi shia and by kofi shian e ali. Abuses means that you have no any logic, otherwise come on and let me know how it was for islam??????
Vol 9, Book 88. Sahih Bukhari. Hadith 227. Narrated By Nafi' : When the people of Medina dethroned Yazid bin Muawiya, Ibn 'Umar gathered his special friends and children and said, "I heard the Prophet saying, 'A flag will be fixed for every betrayer on the Day of Resurrection,' and we have given the oath of allegiance to this person (Yazid) in accordance with the conditions enjoined by Allah and His Apostle and I do not know of anything more faithless than fighting a person who has been given the oath of allegiance in accordance with the conditions enjoined by Allah and His Apostle , and if ever I learn that any person among you has agreed to dethrone/disconnect Yazid, by giving the oath of allegiance (to somebody else) then there will be separation between him and me."
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Posted 04 May 2006 - 03:39 PM
Fatah-Momin, on May 4 2006, 07:59 AM, said:
proudsyed
You are a bigger moron, he did not intend to fight at karbala, Hz. Hussain[ra] intended to reach Kufa and collect his shia to fight for khilafate, In shia books the fiqure claimed is between 18000 to 80000 swords that took pledge on the hand of Hz. Muslim Bin Aqeel[rta]
dear fatah momin, thanks for understanding that karbala incident was for the acheivement of caliphate only and it was misunderstading to hussain that kofi shais are with him. Hz. Hassan was very intelegent and intelectual person, he knows the nature of shais well. That is why he separated himself from them and come back to Medina. Furthermore, he give the hand of oath to Amer Muavia  along with his younger brother hussain.
I confirmly believe if hassan alive in Yazid  era, he surely bait (oath) to this justice muslim leader.
what mean 'LOL'
This post has been edited by Yazid: 05 May 2006 - 10:15 AM
Vol 9, Book 88. Sahih Bukhari. Hadith 227. Narrated By Nafi' : When the people of Medina dethroned Yazid bin Muawiya, Ibn 'Umar gathered his special friends and children and said, "I heard the Prophet saying, 'A flag will be fixed for every betrayer on the Day of Resurrection,' and we have given the oath of allegiance to this person (Yazid) in accordance with the conditions enjoined by Allah and His Apostle and I do not know of anything more faithless than fighting a person who has been given the oath of allegiance in accordance with the conditions enjoined by Allah and His Apostle , and if ever I learn that any person among you has agreed to dethrone/disconnect Yazid, by giving the oath of allegiance (to somebody else) then there will be separation between him and me."
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Posted 29 May 2006 - 03:05 AM
Yazid, on May 4 2006, 04:39 PM, said:
dear fatah momin, thanks for understanding that karbala incident was for the acheivement of caliphate only and it was misunderstading to hussain that kofi shais are with him. Hz. Hassan was very intelegent and intelectual person, he knows the nature of shais well. That is why he separated himself from them and come back to Medina. Furthermore, he give the hand of oath to Amer Muavia  along with his younger brother hussain.
I confirmly believe if hassan alive in Yazid  era, he surely bait (oath) to this justice muslim leader.
what mean 'LOL'
Why do you have to show your ignorance and stupidity?
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Posted 13 October 2006 - 10:03 AM
kofi shian e ali killed hussain after calling him to kofa. Hussain was just a simple person, he could understand the nature and planning of shias. while on the end of Hassan  , he knew the nature of shian e ali very well. Thats why he get rid from shias and come back to Madina. Furthermore, he obeyed Amer e Muawiya  inspite of shia opposition. Hz. Hassan and Muhammad bin ali (Ibne hanfia) was only two persons who were great thinkers. At last again I repeat that killer of hussain were kofi shia who write him thousands letters to come and control the imaginary caliphate. Yazid
Vol 9, Book 88. Sahih Bukhari. Hadith 227. Narrated By Nafi' : When the people of Medina dethroned Yazid bin Muawiya, Ibn 'Umar gathered his special friends and children and said, "I heard the Prophet saying, 'A flag will be fixed for every betrayer on the Day of Resurrection,' and we have given the oath of allegiance to this person (Yazid) in accordance with the conditions enjoined by Allah and His Apostle and I do not know of anything more faithless than fighting a person who has been given the oath of allegiance in accordance with the conditions enjoined by Allah and His Apostle , and if ever I learn that any person among you has agreed to dethrone/disconnect Yazid, by giving the oath of allegiance (to somebody else) then there will be separation between him and me."
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Posted 06 March 2008 - 12:23 AM
Assalam-o-Alikum My Brothers In Islam,
Yes Indeed u r right..
There will b not the greatest punishment like this...."They will beat themselves and mourn till their last breath"
and Karbala was a Political Incident not a religious Incident..
Jazak Allah Khair!
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Posted 28 May 2010 - 11:09 PM
Fatah-Momin, on 03 May 2006 - 06:30 AM, said:
Assalaamo-Alaikum my dear brother. You are absolutely right. Now perhaps you can do us all a favour and tell us what the word Shia means and who were the Shia of Kufa. Were they not Shia Yazeed? Honestly the amount of effort you people put into trying to protect the killers of Hussain [ra] by twisting and turning things around to fool people. Wassalaam.
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Posted 29 May 2010 - 01:00 AM
Ameen, on 28 May 2010 - 06:09 PM, said:
Assalaamo-Alaikum my dear brother. You are absolutely right. Now perhaps you can do us all a favour and tell us what the word Shia means and who were the Shia of Kufa. Were they not Shia Yazeed? Honestly the amount of effort you people put into trying to protect the killers of Hussain [ra] by twisting and turning things around to fool people. Wassalaam.
Ameen Dont try to hide the treachness of Shias with Imam Hussain(r.a) by playing games of words.
You just good in putting Questions to divert the attentions and never have answers of our questions.
It is the known and established fact that because of the betrayled of the Kufis Shian-e-Ali,Imam Hussain (r.a) got matrydom,it is the Badauh of the family of the Prophet(pbuh) that you do the Matam,If you want proof be my guest Baby................
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