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[Khalid-Bin-Waleed]

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Just read the event created by the filthiest souls ever to walk on planet earth. Yes its the filthy kafir Rafidah ethna asharia and their insults against Ali (ra) and sahaba.


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On the Martyrdom of Fatima al-Zahra alayhas-salam

On Wednesday 30th of Safar, year 11 Hejri, with only two days after the martyrdom of the Greatest Messenger of Allah, Muhammad salla-llahu-alayhi-wa-aalih, the enemies of Allah and His Messenger did not waste time to embark on yet another murderous assault on the Ahl-ul-Bayt alayhum-as-salam.






Fatima is part of me, he who hurts her hurts me"

This was said by Prophet Muhammad salla-llahu-alayhi-wa-aalih on numerous occasions.

The day after the burial of the body of Rasulollah, the murderers of Rasulollah salla-llahu-alayhi-wa-aalih raided the house of Sayyidaton-Nissa' Fatima al-Zahra' alayhas-salam. In the process they set fire to the door of the house, and crushed Fatima al-Zahra' alayhas-salam, between the door and the wall. Sayyidaton-Nissa' Fatima al-Zahra' alayhas-salam, who was heavily pregnant at the time, sustained a number of horrific injuries, as a result of which she died later. Her unborn baby son � the third Sibt of Rasulollah; whom Rasulollah had named Mohassen, died instantlyin the course of the assaultby the "Sahabah"!!! Some of the injuries that the beloved daughter of Rasulollah sustained were:

. smashed ribs,
. pierced lungs,
. as well as injuries to her unborn baby son, Hazrat-e Mohassen alayhis-salam, who was killed instantly.


Not being satisfied with all that, on entering the house, the assailants did not leave the beloved daughter of Prophet Muhammad alone. They subjected her to a barrage of brutal assaults, by:

. slapping her face,
. throwing her to the ground,
. repeatedly punching and kicking her
. as well as hitting the heavily pregnant Lady Fatima with the side of their swords.


At the same time as the assault on Fatima al-Zahra', an assault was also taking place against her husband Amir-ul-Mu'minin alayhis-salam, who had come to her defence. The attackers eventually managed to disarm and apprehend Amir-ul-Mu'minin, Imam Ali alayhis-salam. As Fatima alayhas-salam lay unconscious on the ground, the assailants put a noose around Imam Ali�s neck, violently dragging him through the streets of Medina so as to force him to declare his Bay'ah (the homage of allegiance) to the illegal and self-declared caliph . . .

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May Allah send this bloody filthy liars to the deepest hole in hell fire.

Source of this filth ---> http://www.shirazi.o.../fatimiyyah.htm <--- ugly rafidi site.

[Khalid-Bin-Waleed]

Question:

Shi'a said that after the meeting of Sahabah in Saqifah Umar ibn Kattob and his followers threated to burn Fatimah's house. He himeself pushed the door of the house where he hurted Fatimah seriously until she become aborted. I believed this is a lie. But I want to know its source and views of the critics concerned.



Answer:

Thanks are due to Allah and prayer and peace upon the Messenger of Allah, his family, and his Companions.

The story of the assault on Fatima, the burning of her house, and the murder of her fetus is not supported by a prophetic narration or by an authentic historical story. Logic and common sense rejects this story at all costs.

Let us assume for the moment that Abu Bakr and Omar bin Al-khattab really committed that heinous crime. But what about Ali bin Abi Talib? How could Ali stay quiet while his wife is beaten, his house is assaulted, and his son is killed? Is this the portrait of Ali bin Abi Talib that the Shia are trying to paint? The least man in faith, chivalry, and manhood will not allow his wife to be beaten. Then how come when the woman is the daughter of the Prophet peace be upon him and the man is the mighty Ali bin Abi Talib?

This is the result of the fabrication in history that became one of the tenets of faith for the Shia.

Al-Sayyed Hussain FadlAllah, the grand Shia scholar in Lebanon, had denied the incident of the assault on Fatima. Hence, lots of Shia scholars waged a war on him. They charged him with �Wahhabisim�. One of the grand Shia scholars in Iran Al-Tabrizi had issued a verdict excommunicating FadlAllah from Shiasim because FadlAllah had denied one of the major religious beliefs of the Shia.

FadlAllah�s denial had come after extensive research in the Shia�s version of the story of the assault and he depended much on logic and common sense.

The book of �The Leadership and Politics� (Al-Imamah wa Al-Siyasah) by Ibn Qutayibah is the only Sunni book that narrated such a story. Nevertheless, many Muslim scholars declared that the book is wrongfully attributed to Ibn Qutayibah. In the following link we had examined the authenticity of the book. Ibn Qutayibah did not write that book.



Therefore, it is not fair to take that book as an argument against Ahl Al-Sunnah. Even if we assumed that Ibn Qutayibah really did write that book, then we find out that the incident of the assault is written without an attribution. We do not know who really narrated that story. History books contain the good and the bad. We have to always distinguish the good from the bad through attribution.

wa al salam alaykum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatuh

[Fatah-Momin]

Let us expose shia lies from shia source alone Zakiir claim

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"When news reached Abu Bakr that the people had gathered in the house of 'Ali and were refusing to give bayya, he sent Hadhrath Umar in their direction. Umar called out to Akraan who was in the house of 'Ali, but he refused to come out. Umar then said:

'I swear by He who controls the life of Umar, if you people do not come out of the house I shall set fire to it, and everyone inside shall perish. The people said 'Abu'l Hafs (Umar), Fatima (daughter of Rasulullah (s)) is also in this house'. Umar replied, 'I do not care about this, people should leave the house of 'Ali and give bayya'. 'Ali replied I have sworn that I shall not set foot outside my home until I have completed compiling the Qur'an.'
Al-Imama Walsiyasa Page 12

The renowned Shi'ite scholar Abu Mansur Ahmed Tibrisi writes:
'Abu Bakr sent Qunfudh to Ali with a delegation who entered Ali's house without his permission. Ali went for his sword but the group had already taken it away. They captured Ali and tied a rope round his neck. When Fatima tried to intervene, Qunfudh hit her. The delegation dragged Ali to Abu Bakr where Omar, Khalid bin Walid and Abu Ubaidah ibn Jarrah (R.A.) were also present with many other people. Omar severely reprimanded Ali and told him to swear allegiance with Abu Bakr. Ali then took Abu Bakr's hand and took an oath of allegiance. (Al-Ihtijaj, by Tibrisi: 83, 84)

According to shia historian Hz. Umar[ra] was waiting for Hz. Ali[ra] at Masjid of Nabi Allah[saw]

[Khalid-Bin-Waleed]

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We should not ban Zakir as he is digging a hole for himself!

Yes not We, you are not included, shia doing taqiyyah are not the mods.  The moderators will decide if he will be ban,


as far as this subject we see all he qouted was fabricated history and its rediculous to believe that not a single sahabi stood up to aid fatima radiallahu anha. and its sick that shias believe fatima stood up and protected herself from strange men but Ali radiallahu anhu did not protect her.

[Fatah-Momin]

Mukhtar, on Apr 30 2006, 11:39 PM, said:

We should not ban Zakir as he is digging a hole for himself!

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Brother There is Zero tolerance for disrespecting the companions[ra], I left Mod Note on many of his post cautioning of the consequences. He said Tabarrah to Hz. Abu Suffyan[ra], for this reason he is suspended only for thirty days if continue after that he will be banned.

[Khalid-Bin-Waleed]

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Brother There is Zero tolerance for disrespecting the companions[ra], I left Mod Note on many of his post cautioning of the consequences. He said Tabarrah to Hz. Abu Suffyan[ra], for this reason he is suspended only for thirty days if continue after that he will be banned.

[hasanie110]

Mukhtar, on May 1 2006, 02:55 PM, said:

who has banned zakir??? i thought he was doing us a favour and keeping the debates going!!!

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TRUTH IS SO BITTER, IT IS HARD TO SWALLOW. THE MODERATOR BANS QURAAN AS WELL AS IT DOES "TABARRAA" RATHER HAS A WHOLE SURAH NAMED "BARA''ET"

[Khalid-Bin-Waleed]

All his claims were used from weak sources in an attempt to get us to believe in such falsehood, even the great shii scholar of lebanon fadlullah believes this is nothing but a fabricated story, he finds no evidence to support it even email him and ask him about his claims.

  But you are doing us a favor by showing us you believe Fatima radiallahu anha stood up for herself against strange men who were beating her up while her husband ali radiallahu anhu was not man enough to help her,(naudhubillah) this according to shiite ahadeeths ofcourse and their fabricated history.

[hasanie110]

MostafaAs-salafi, on May 1 2006, 04:00 PM, said:

But you are doing us a favor by showing us you believe Fatima radiallahu anha stood up...

Join me in saying, "May Allah curse those, who caused her injuries! May ASllah curse those who took away her rights as she claimed "

Edited by hasanie110, 01 May 2006 - 10:08 AM.

[Khalid-Bin-Waleed]

Yes she did not get harmed by anyone, only a fool befools himself by believing in this fabricated story, you just insulted fatima radiallahu anha and her noble husband sayidna ali radiallahu anhu.

[Khalid-Bin-Waleed]

Brother fatah take note he is spamming copying and pasting his comments from the other thread and posting them here, he has every opportunity to reply to what has been written but him and his shia friends have failed to do so , so instead they start complaining saying its an unfair forum when indeed we have given plenty of chances for them to reply.

[Khalid-Bin-Waleed]

The haq is clear, read the post again, if you dont like too bad, i dont care if you like it or not, i really could care less about you, what i care for is those ignorant sunnis or what they call themselves sunnis who may fall prey to shia, so i want them to see the threads and they can see the true side of shiaism which are lies and fabrications so that they will not be decieved, this is all i care, i dont care about the guidance of sayyid ali, zakiir, you or your mothers sister, i care about the muslims who may fall astray to these shia.