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#1 OFFLINE   al-a3sha

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Posted 24 February 2005 - 07:02 PM

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Many Muslims are ignorant when it comes to the status and high level of Muawiya Ibn Abi Sufyan Radia Allahu Anhu-. They do injustice to him because of the fitnah that occurred between him and Ameer-ul-Momineen and the rightly guided Khalif Ali Ibn Abi Talib Radia Allahu Anhu-.

Mauwiya did not want Khilafa nor did he object to the Imamate of Ali Ibn Abi Talib Radia Allahu anhu-, rather he demanded retaliation against the killers of Uthman Radia Allahu Anhu- and subsequently that they be handed over to him, and then he would pay allegiance to Ali radia Allahu Anhu-. In this matter, truth was with Ali Radia Allahu Anhu- as Ahlul Sunnah unanimously believe.

Ibn Asaker narrated that Abu Muslim Al-Khawlani came along with other men to Muwaiya Radia Allahu Anhu- and said: " Do you compete with Ali or are you his like?

He said: No! By Allah I know that he is better than me and has more
right to rule than me. But do you not know that Uthman was killed unjustly, and I am his cousin and I am the one who demands his blood so go to him and ask him to hand over to me the murderers of Uthman and I will leave this matter to him.

So they came to Ali Radia Allahi Anhu- and talked to him, but he
did not hand them over."

Ibn Katheer related from Jareer Ibn Abdul Hameed from Mugheera: When the news of the murder of Ali reached Muawiya he cried. His wife said: Why do you cry when you have fought against him? He said: Woe to you ! You do not realize what the people have lost of merit, feqh and knowledge (i.e by Alis Radia Allahu Anhu- death)

Imam Ahmad narrated from Al-Erbadh Ibn Sariya Radia Allahu Anu-: I heard the Messenger of Allah sala Allahu Alyhi Wa Salaam- say: O Allah! Teach Muawiya the Book and protect him from The Punishment

And in Sunan Al-Tirmithi through a Saheeh chain from the narration of Abdul Rahman Ibn Umaiyra that the Prophet Sala Allahu Alyhi Wa salaam- said: O Allah! Make him a guide and guide him and guide by him

From Ibn Abbas: Abu Sufyan said to the Prophet http://islamic-forum...tyle_emoticons/default/image008.gif: Give me three. He said: Yes. In that hadith it says: And Muawiya! Let him to be a scribe in your presence. He said: Yes narrated by Muslim.

Ibn Asaker said: The most authentic tradition narrated about Mauwiyas merit is the hadith of Abu Jamrah from Ibn Abbas that he was the scribe of the Prophet http://islamic-forum...tyle_emoticons/default/image008.gif related by Ibn Katheer in Al-Bidaya wal Nihaya.

He Radia Allahu Anhu- was praised by many companions and Tabeein, and they testified to him being religious and knowledgable, just and patient, and also other good attributes.

When Umar Ibn Al-Khattab radia Allahu anhu- made him governor over Syria he said: Only say good things about Muawiya

It is narrated that when Ali Radia Allahu Anhu- came make from Siffin he said: O People! Do not dislike the rule of Muawiya , for if you lose him you will see heads falling of the shoulders as if it is Khandhal

Narrated Ibn Umar said: I have not seen a better leader after the Prophet http://islamic-forum...tyle_emoticons/default/image008.gif than Muawiya. It was said: Not even your father. He said: My father is better than Muawiya , but Muawiya is a better leader than him  

Ibn Abbas Radia Allahu Anhu- said: I have not seen a man who is more fit to be a king than Muawiya

In Sahih Al-Bukhari:

Volume 5, Book 57, Number 108:

Narrated Ibn Abu Mulaika:

Muawiya offered one Rak'a Witr prayer after the 'Isha prayer, and at that time a freed slave of Ibn 'Abbas was present. He (i.e. the slave) went to Ibn 'Abbas (and told him that Muawiya offered one Rak'a Witr prayer). Ibn Abbas said: Leave him, for he was in the company of Allah's Prophet.

Volume 5, Book 57, Number 109:

Narrated Ibn Abi Mulaika:

Somebody said to Ibn 'Abbas, "Can you speak to the chief of the believers Muawiya, as he does not pray except one Rak'a as Witr?" Ibn 'Abbas replied, "He is a Faqih (i.e. a learned man who can give religious verdicts)."  

Narrated Abdulla Ibn Al-Zubair: For Allah is the action of the son of Hind (An expression of praise, son of Hind = Muawiya (r.a.a), we used to fear him. He used to be more bold than the lion standing on his claws, so we would fear him. There is none amongst the people of the earth more wary than him, so he used to make himself gullible for us. By Allah I wished if we enjoyed his presence as long as there is rock in this mountain" and he pointed towards Mount Qubays.

Abdulla Ibn Al-Mubarak was asked: Which of them is better: Muawiya Ibn Abi Sufyan or Umar Ibn Abdul Aziz?. He said: By Allah, the dust that has entered the nose of Muawiya with the Messenger of Allah http://islamic-forum...tyle_emoticons/default/image008.gif is better than Umar one thousand times. Muawiya prayed behind the Messenger of Allah http://islamic-forum...tyle_emoticons/default/image008.gif. When he said: Samia Allahu leman hamida (Allah listens to one who praises him i.e when rising from Ruku) Muawiya said: Rabana wa laka Al-Hamd (Our Lord to you is the praise). What do you want more than this?!

Qatada said: If you woke up seeing deeds similar to those of Muawiya, most of you would have said this is the Mehdi.

Mujahid said: If you saw Muawiya you would have said: this is the Mehdi.
Al-Zuhri said: Muawiya applied the way of Umar Ibn Al-Khatab for several years, not missing anything from it

The justice of Umar Ibn Abdul Aziz was mentioned in the presence of Al-Amash. He said: How would it be if you met Muawiya? They said: O Abu Muhammad you mean his patience. He said no, but his justice.

Al-Muafa was asked: which is better Muawiya or Umar Ibn Abdul Aziz. He said: Mauwiya was better than six hundred likes of Umar Ibn Abdul Aziz !!

Ibn Qudama Al-Maqdisi said: Muawiya is the Uncle of Believers, the scribe of revelation , and one of the Khalifs of Muslims May Allah be pleased with them-.

Ibn Taymia said: " " Scholars have agreed that Muawiya is the best of this ummah's kings, for the four who were before him where Khulafa of Nubuwa, and he was the first of kings. His rule was that of mercy"

He also said: " None of the Muslim kings was better than Muawiya, and at no time were Muslims under the reign of king better than those at his time"

Ibn Katheer said: " The subjects all agreed in making baya' to him in the year 41 A.H He remained the sole ruler for this period until this year in which he died in, having Jihad in the land of the enemy established, the Word of Allah high, booty coming to him from the ends of earth and Muslims with him (living) in justice , peace of mind, and forgiveness."

Al-Dhahabi said in his biography: " Ameer-ul-Momineen and the king of Islam"

And he said: " Muawiya is one of the best kings, with his justice surpassing his oppression"

Ibn Abi Al-Izz Al-Hanafi said: " The first Muslim king is Muawiya and he is the best Muslim king"

Translated from " Al-Intisar " by Shiekh Ibrahim Al-Ruhali


اللهم اجمعنا برسولك صلى الله عليه وسلم وآله الطاهرين وأصحابه الغر الميامين في جناتك
جنات النعيم .

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Posted 24 February 2005 - 08:55 PM

Mods delete this topic before i give the poster a piece of my mind.

[ Mods Note: Don't be silly and don't tell the mods what to do! ]

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Posted 25 February 2005 - 07:27 AM

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Mods delete this topic before i give the poster a piece of my mind.
Keep that left over piece of mind for urself. atleast u can use it in what to eat and what not to eat.
On the authority of Anas, who said: I heard the messenger of Allah say:

Allah the Almighty has said: "O son of Adam, so long as you call upon Me and ask of Me, I shall forgive you for what you have done, and I shall not mind. O son of Adam, were your sins to reach the clouds of the sky and were you then to ask forgiveness of Me, I would forgive you. O son of Adam, were you to come to Me with sins nearly as great as the earth and were you then to face Me, ascribing no partner to Me, I would bring you forgiveness nearly as great as its."

related by Al-Tirmithi, who said that it was a good and sound Hadith.

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Posted 25 February 2005 - 09:48 AM

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Mods delete this topic before i give the poster a piece of my mind.

Lol. Next thing he'll be demanding Mod status for himself!

Excellent post brother al-a3sha. May Allah (swt) reward Ameer ul-Momineen Muaawiyah (ra) for his enlightened rule and forgive him any of his shortcomings. Amin.
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Posted 07 March 2005 - 11:33 AM

Sipah-e-Sahaba, on Feb 25 2005, 02:48 PM, said:

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Mods delete this topic before i give the poster a piece of my mind.

Lol. Next thing he'll be demanding Mod status for himself!

Excellent post brother al-a3sha. May Allah (swt) reward Ameer ul-Momineen Muaawiyah (ra) for his enlightened rule and forgive him any of his shortcomings. Amin.

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Posted 12 March 2005 - 03:01 PM

in hidaya akhareen inbabu adabullqazi
said ameer moavia(rta) baghi
give me answer

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Posted 12 March 2005 - 08:37 PM

Someone said Baghi.... give me answer

Why give you answer ask the author of the book n by writing Baghi no one becomes Baghi... if you call your mother "father" a million time would your mother become your father... ? The Prophet (PBUH)'s Hadiths is very clear about Hazrat Ameer-e-Moavia (Radhiyallaho Anho) so we dont have to judge him from the book of history... and its no use touching these topic and who are we to judhe Hazrat Ameer-e-Moavia (Radhiyallaho Anho)...are you / we sure we are not baghi's...
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Posted 12 April 2005 - 01:59 PM

Concentrate on Topic .. Go ahead....

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Posted 03 June 2005 - 01:24 PM

I do understand that as a king that he was a very good king. But is that not the problem he made caliphate a kingship. Also he fought against the caliph of his time I thought this was against sunni fiqh.

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Posted 03 June 2005 - 07:17 PM

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Hz. Mauwiyah[ra] offered to accepte the khilafate of Hz. Ali[ra] under the condition that he will deal with culprits of the fitnah sooner rather than later, this condition was rejected by Hazrat Ali[ra], so basicaly Hazrat Mauwiyah[ra] never took baite of Hazrat Ali[ra] as a khalif.

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Posted 03 June 2005 - 08:25 PM

But majority did that could be same arguement with other caliphates right? How Ali(RA) be one of four rightful caliph and muawaiya refuse to accept his caliphate.

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 08:39 PM

Fatah-Momin, on Jun 4 2005, 12:17 AM, said:

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Hz. Mauwiyah[ra] offered to accepte the khilafate of Hz. Ali[ra] under the condition that he will deal with culprits of the fitnah sooner rather than later, this condition was rejected by Hazrat Ali[ra], so basicaly Hazrat Mauwiyah[ra] never took baite of Hazrat Ali[ra] as a khalif.

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Did Ali (A.S) offer to accept Abu Bakr caliphate on the premise that fadak be given back to lady fatima (A.S)?

If Ali (A.S) was appointed caliph then why was mauwiyah allegiance even required?

As for al-a3sha post there has been numerous sources that show Mauwiyah disrespecting Ali (A.S) - Making it a habit to curse him out.........
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Posted 13 September 2005 - 03:03 PM

naghibaba, on Sep 13 2005, 02:56 PM, said:

al-a3sha, on Feb 25 2005, 01:02 AM, said:

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Many Muslims are ignorant when it comes to the status and high level of Muawiya Ibn Abi Sufyan Radia Allahu Anhu-. They do injustice to him because of the fitnah that occurred between him and Ameer-ul-Momineen and the rightly guided Khalif Ali Ibn Abi Talib Radia Allahu Anhu-.


And he said: " Muawiya is one of the best kings, with his justice surpassing his oppression"


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What?  If he was anything he would have been considered rightly guided, but he was not.
And any king that is a oppressor is doomed. A effective and honest ruler does not oppress, then
implement justice to fix the wrong.

If this Hadith means anything, it's either one Caliph or the other.

Muslim Book 005, Number 2327:

    Abu Sa'id al-Khudri reported from the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) that a group (Khwarij) would emerge from the different parties (the party of Hadrat 'Ali and the party of Amir Mu'awiya), the group nearer the truth between the two would kill them.

If this Hadith means anything, it's either one Caliph or the other.

Book 005, Number 2333:

    Zaid b. Wahb Jahani reported and he was among the squadron which wall under the command of Ali (Allah be pleased with him) and which set out (to curb the activities) of the Khwarij. 'Ali (Allah be pleased with him) said: 0 people, I heard the Messeinger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: There would arise from my Ummah a people who would recite the Qur'an, and your recital would seem insignificant as compared with their recital, your prayer as compared with their prayer, arid your fast, as compared with their fast. They would recite the Qur'an thinking that it sup- ports them, whereas it is an evidence against them. Their prayer does not get beyond their collar bone; they would swerve through Islam just as the arrow passes through the prey. If the squadron which is to encounter them were to know (what great boon) has been assured to them by their Apostle (may peace be upon him) they would completely rely upon this deed (alone and cease to do other good deeds), and their (that of the Khwarij) distinctive mark is that there would be (among them) a person whose wrist would be without the arm, and the end of his wrist would be fleshy like the nipple of the breast on which there would be white hair. You would be marching towards Muawiya and the people of Syria and you would leave them behind among your children and your property (to do harm). By Allah, I believe that these are the people (against whom you have been commanded to fight and get reward) for they have shed forbidden blood, and raided the animals of the people. So go forth in the name of Allah (to fight against them). Salama b. Kuhail mentioned that Zaid b. Wahb made me alight at every stage, till we crossed a bridge. 'Abdullah b. Wahb al-Rasibi was at the head of the Khwarij when we encountered them. He ('Abdullah) said to his army: Throw the spears and draw out your swords from their sheaths, for I fear that they would attack you as they attacked you on the day of Harura. They went back and threw their spears and drew out their swords, and people fought against them with spears and they were killed one after another. Only two persons were killed among the people (among the army led by Hadrat 'Ali) on that day. 'Ali (Allah be pleased with him) said: Find out from among them (the dead bodies of the Khwarij) (the maimed). They searched but did not find him. 'Ali (Allah be pleased with him) then himself stood up and (walked) till he came to the people who had been killed one after another. He ('Ali) said: Search them to the last, and then ('Ali's companions) found him (the dead body of the maimed) near the earth. He (Hadrat 'Ali) then pronounced Allah-O-Akbar (Allah is the Greatest) and then said, Allah told the Truth and His Messenger (may peace be upon him) conveyed it. Then there stood before him 'Abida Salmani who said: Commander of the Believers, by Allah, besides Whom there is no god but He, (tell me) whether you heard this hadith from the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him). He said: Yes, by Allah, besides Whom there is no god but He. He asked him to take an oath thrice and he took the oath.

I can't beleive this place....

Is Muslim Sahih, if it isn't I can see were your coming from, but if you consider it sahih than use it
and get over this "I love Muawiya" nonsense, he was nothing but a ruler.

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Posted 19 September 2005 - 04:56 PM

There's no point arguing or discussing about the matter between Hazrat Ali (Radhiyallahu Anh) and Hazrat Muawiyah (Radhiyallahu Anh) as both of them were the Sahabah of Rasulullah (PBUH) and Hazart Hassan (Radhiyallahu Anh) and Hazrat Hussian (Radhiyallahu Anh) did baite to Hazrat Ameer-e-Shaam Hazrat Muawiyah (Radhiyallahu Anh) and accepted Hazrat Ameer-e-Shaam Hazrat Muawiyah (Radhiyallahu Anh) as their leader and Imaam... and this is a prove that all the stories about Fadak etc... are baseless and artifical... and all those whoes saying is that we Love the family of Prophet (PBUH) ought to follow the foot-step of Hazrat Hassan (Radhiyallahu Anh) and Hazrat Hussian (Radhiyallahu Anh)... Otherwise, they ought to keep their mouth close control their hands as in the Day of Judgment your hands wil be speaking... forget all things and Just...

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Posted 19 September 2005 - 07:45 PM

There is a difference between companion and cousin..

If someone wanted to find something out about you, what info would be more accurate?
from a friend or a family member?

And of course to change the subject you got the sunni cry of pain.....

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please O Shia's prove your Kalimah (Shahadah) from the Holy Qur'an or Hazrat Ali (Radhiyallahu Anh).... prove your faith in Qur'an ...

Come on now.....

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Posted 20 September 2005 - 04:25 PM

No family members knows competly your life out side your home and no friend knows your life competly inside your home... cry or whatever... who are you to call for come on and why never any Shia comes on and proves the Shahadat/ Kalimah of Shiyat...and faith from the Qur'an ... come here first your faith in the Qur'an and later we go to History and Hazrat Ali (r.a) and Hazrat Muawiya (r.a) ..
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Posted 20 September 2005 - 04:52 PM

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what info would be more accurate

The information of what is happening in side the house/home is best provieded by the wife.

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Posted 20 September 2005 - 08:38 PM

Not if there are 11 or 12 of them...

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Posted 30 September 2005 - 11:53 AM

Dear
No doubt, Muawia was one of the best and main pillors of Islam, the greates thinker, the best administrator.
Regarding ali haider post, I think all these are useless and just temporary without any reference. If someone would like to discuss on this pios justice muslim ruler, he shoud come with reference. This is first one who make scientific changes in Muslim state and lead the nation.  Some people ignorantly say that his way of transfer of khilafat is not correct. Choosing Yazid as caliph was 100% right decision, as proved in his later life.
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Posted 30 September 2005 - 02:18 PM

Do u believe that yaZid was the right choice of muawyah for bieng the caliph of islamic ummat thn sorry to say bhai u mean to say that muawyah was also like to kill imam hussain n his followers .Then u ,yourself prooved it that muawyah was a emperor who follow [edited]Obviously http://islamic-forum...tyle_emoticons/default/image001.gif

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