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[Firoz]

AlSadri, on Jun 7 2008, 03:35 PM, said:

Wahabi's Hav many Qibals do u have?????

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaarDb3hfyw

Wahabi SO CALLED MUJAHID (For ShytaaN) in Iraq Admits he commited gay ACTS IN THE MASJID WHERE ALLAH is WORSHIPPED in

www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9bLWjaY4xE


Wahabi Niqabai GIRLS BORED

www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVL2kk1Iejg&feature=related



So if u want to play this GAME u will get DESTROYED......

ITS ABOUT PROOF which u dont HAV ANY not POSTING youtube VIDEO's

this sick

how come these wahabis doing like this?

[nays]

AlSadri, on Jun 7 2008, 08:35 PM, said:

Wahabi's Hav many Qibals do u have?????

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaarDb3hfyw

Wahabi SO CALLED MUJAHID (For ShytaaN) in Iraq Admits he commited gay ACTS IN THE MASJID WHERE ALLAH is WORSHIPPED in

www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9bLWjaY4xE


Wahabi Niqabai GIRLS BORED

www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVL2kk1Iejg&feature=related



So if u want to play this GAME u will get DESTROYED......

ITS ABOUT PROOF which u dont HAV ANY not POSTING youtube VIDEO's

Ahh...I can show videos of shiias praying towards a grave. That's for your qibla video.

I can show gay transexuals in Iran...which your scholars deem permissable. That's for your 2nd video.

And Alhamdullilah these Saudi girls are covered, I can show you videos of Iranian shia girls dancing in undecent clothing and underwear. But I wont, lest it tempt you to have a temporary marriage with some poor girl.

[haq-mil-gaya]

Well I was stunned to see that are these topics related to sheer discussion!!!


I request the mod to shift the thread to any other place since I hardly see any "Logical debate" in this thread!!!

Well I request some astute members too that they should make some good topics that would increase the knowhow of both the covenants!!!


It is nothing but to disparage one another!!

If some sunnis would present 3 videos then in reply SHia would do the same and the list goes and goes infinitely so it is a cordial request from all that to make some good topics....

[nays]

haq-mil-gaya, on Jun 13 2008, 05:43 PM, said:

If some sunnis would present 3 videos then in reply SHia would do the same and the list goes and goes infinitely so it is a cordial request from all that to make some good topics....

The whole shia-suni debate is like. There is no end and it goes in circles. There's no use debating about it because it doesn't change anything.

Every shia ive met that has become sunni says they never participated in these debates, they were just 'guided' to ahlus sunnah. And the sunni's who became shia say the same thing. These debates are pointless and just confuse people, aswell as cause a lot of insults towards the sahaba and ahlul bayt.

[Y. AH.]

I agree on this

nays, on Jun 13 2008, 03:21 PM, said:

These debates (...) cause a lot of insults towards the sahaba and ahlul bayt. I would like to add also that in some cases, people have been disrespectful towards the prophet [saw], Ummahat Al-Momi'neen [ra], Allah [swt], and the Noble Quran

Plus I object to the use of the word "debate". Few are the threads that fit this description. Out of courtesy, I'll keep the remainder of my opinion to myself.

Edited by Y. AH., 13 June 2008 - 02:13 PM.

[haq-mil-gaya]

Well for me the thing is that logical discussion and that too in cordial way can really change one's mind...


and I really appreciate those that endrose me in this act of eradicating the illogical and irrational way of discussion...


It would be better that we have a dialouge over facts and saws of the people that we believe to be Hujjah not on the links and videos....

[Inkaari]

"haq mil gaya" m agree with u in term of logical discusion but FORTUNATELY(ALHAMDULILLAH) we r hurt when a person in the guise of ISLAM talks on HOLY WIVES OF PROPHET SAW,,,and His COMPANIONS RA,,,,,like he is talikng about some culprits....so ...is there any shia who can make it logical and respectful..........??????can  any shia talk about his own mother or father like he talks about the belongers of PROPHET SAW.....????????WE  ALHAMDULILLAH RESPECT  whole the family of PROPHET SAW......BUT SHIA hasnt forgiveN any one from the beloved companions of PROPHET SAW.......I I cant expect any thing positive from a shia.....i hate shia from depth of my heart ALHAMDULILLAH....IS there any shia who can change my mindddd........??????i want to love shia...any shia who can make me love shia..........????

[Y. AH.]

Inkaari, on Jun 13 2008, 07:28 PM, said:

IS there any shia who can change my mindddd........??????i want to love shia...any shia who can make me love shia..........????

Dear Inkaari perhaps this isn't the right place to discuss this with you but I can't see a good guy like you saying the awful word "I hate" towards anyone. "Hate" is a very strong word. I disagree with most of the Shias I know regarding beliefs and politics but it has never shifted to crossing the red lines, insulting or harming them. This is ridiculous. Islam is about the sublimation of the soul, it brings what is best in a person. Furthermore, throughout the Quran the word judging is reserved to Allah [swt]. Now, it comes to my mind the words of a very prominent Islamist thinker/ activist Hassan Al-Houdaiby: "we are preachers not judges". When he wrote the book that bear this name "we are etc." it was mainly to guide energetic arab & especially egyptian islamist militants who have been tortured in jails and drifted in the seventies towards tajhil (declaring jahil) and takfir (declaring Kuffar) of secular regimes, Islamic societies, Muslim brethren and followers of other creeds alike. "Hate" is a dangerous word. All the awful things we say to each other on this forum should remain words ... after all, aggressiveness  is the first human reaction towards provocation!! But words should not become violent action and behavior. We owe it to Islam to reflect the best image of it  and to discuss anything with reason despite everything.

It's just my opinion. You may accept it or not.

Wassalam.

Edited by Y. AH., 13 June 2008 - 05:09 PM.

[haq-mil-gaya]

Inkaari, on Jun 13 2008, 09:28 PM, said:

"haq mil gaya" m agree with u in term of logical discusion but FORTUNATELY(ALHAMDULILLAH) we r hurt when a person in the guise of ISLAM talks on HOLY WIVES OF PROPHET SAW,,,and His COMPANIONS RA,,,,,like he is talikng about some culprits....so ...is there any shia who can make it logical and respectful..........??????can  any shia talk about his own mother or father like he talks about the belongers of PROPHET SAW.....????????WE  ALHAMDULILLAH RESPECT  whole the family of PROPHET SAW......BUT SHIA hasnt forgiveN any one from the beloved companions of PROPHET SAW.......I I cant expect any thing positive from a shia.....i hate shia from depth of my heart ALHAMDULILLAH....IS there any shia who can change my mindddd........??????i want to love shia...any shia who can make me love shia..........????

Look Inkari your post is mostly wrapped by your emotions rather u should think from your brain

Sorry to be harsh but this is the point of debate....

And If we don't give homage to "Some" Sahabas and mostly 2 wives of prohpet(Saww) so this a separate doctrine of us and I invite u codrially for a debate over this that "If someone say a wrong word to Sahaba he becomes out of Islam"

While I don't want to make it another revile thread in which every one is just assuaging its hatred on others...

I personally have seen many Sunnis converting to Shias mainly not of attending and reading tons of books regarding each others view but they have converted "Due to good way of cordination of us with them and with a sufficient knowledge to answer a normal person of the soceity regarding Shiite belief"

Well Inkari in the mean time I just want to make one thing more clear that we don't hate personalites rather we hate the bad acts commited by them....