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#321 OFFLINE   moot ko yaad kero

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 08:34 AM

ma ya sub janta ho un ko kisi ki izat ka kaayal nahi to kia hoa hum to ker sakta ha

tum sirf in ka asli faces dekao logo ko ya whhabi or deobandi jo apna app ko muslam khata ha aur humra aslaf ko bora mara maqsad ha ka ma in ka aur in ka aslaf ka kala karnma logo ko bato

tum be yahi kero allah is ki jaza da ga

doshman muhmmad and almuhmmad duna ma be raswa ho ga aur last day ko be
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Posted 23 May 2009 - 09:59 AM

View Postmoot ko yaad kero, on May 14 2009, 12:34 PM, said:

doshman muhmmad and almuhmmad duna ma be raswa ho ga aur last day ko be

Haan u na bilkul sahi kaha Moot jabi tu tum log puri dunya ma RUSWA hokar Laanti KArar paae ho

Aur Allah ki aisi LANAT tumharay uper baras rahi hia ka apna gunah ki waja sa apna hi aap ko Azab ma mubtala karta ho aur QIyamat tuk agar taubah nahi ki tu isi LANAT ka under raho ga aur Yom-e-Aakhir tu tum ko ruswa hona hi hia

tu aik baar phir sub mil kar bolo LANATULLAHI ALAL RAFIZEEN

If ALLAH sends you harm, there is no one but He (Allah) who can take it away; and if He(Allah) bring you good, surely He has power over everything. Surah Al-Inam (V.17)

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Posted 16 February 2010 - 09:23 PM

Edited for offensive language and disrespecting blessed companions[ra] member banned.

Edited by Fatah-Momin, 16 February 2010 - 09:28 PM.


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Posted 16 February 2010 - 11:09 PM

View Postabk-par-lanat, on Feb 17 2010, 02:23 AM, said:

Edited for offensive language and disrespecting blessed companions[ra] member banned.


Go to hell whose name abk-par......

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Posted 03 April 2010 - 09:54 AM

Nabi kareem Saww Ko Pata Tha K mere Wisal K baad Kya Hogga
Aur Nabi Kareem Saww ne khob Dekha k Kya Kya Huwa Agr Aisa hazrat Abu Bakar sidique R.A Aur Hazrat umer farooQ krte To
Mola Ali Hazrat Abu Bakar Sidiq Ko Apne hathon se nabi kareem saww k sath kyon rakha aaj tak hazrat abu bakar sidiq nabi k sath madine main hain
agr un k dilon main gil hotta to mola ali a.s hazrat abu bakar ka janaza kyon leke jaate chalo ya ali mushkikusha ne hazrat abu bakr sidiq ka janaza
nabi k darbaar me haazir kiya to taala apne aap kyon khul gaya is ka matlab k nabi k sahabi haq pr the aur sache the jinhon ne apni betiyan nabi k ooper qurban kardi wo nabi ki beti pr koi zulam kee kar sakhta hai

Hadees Mubarak saww = mere baad agr koi nabi aata to wo hazrat umer farooq ra hotta

Hadees Mubarak saww = nabi saww ne farmaya Ali A.s jisko tum ijazat dogge to wo jannat me daakhil ho sakhta hai jis k liye tum mana kar doge to wo jannat me dakhil nahi ho sakhta
Mola Ali Ne Farmaya Abu bakar Jo Tera Gustakh hai Qasam Khuda Ki main usko jannat me dakhil nahi hone donga

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 08:20 AM

View Postmoot ko yaad kero, on 24 January 2009 - 10:18 AM, said:

<br />baat noman sb app na bari achi ki per meri nazar sa ya rewat kabi nahi guzari albta ya baat hazart abu bakar hazart umer dono hazart na ki ali na hota ma hlaq ho jata.<br /><br />this is another stroy app sirf is baat ka jawab do kia khulfat nabi pak ka janazay sa ziyda zrooi thi ya hazart abu bakr jasa app na rewat liki sab sa afzal tha un ko is baat ka yqeen nahi tha ka agar wo saqifa na ja to sad bin abada khlifa ban jia ga aur bad ma un ki koi baat nahi suna ga.<br /><br />saqifa ki asliya ma tumra jawab ka bad do ga<br />
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bhai pahlay apna deen to maloomkur lo , apne likha hua hai SUNNI :)
yahan likhao main shia kaafir.

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Posted 15 September 2010 - 03:27 PM

View Postn112233, on 13 September 2010 - 08:20 AM, said:

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View Postmoot ko yaad kero, on 24 January 2009 - 10:18 AM, said:

&lt;br /&gt;baat noman sb app na bari achi ki per meri nazar sa ya rewat kabi nahi guzari albta ya baat hazart abu bakar hazart umer dono hazart na ki ali na hota ma hlaq ho jata.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;this is another stroy app sirf is baat ka jawab do kia khulfat nabi pak ka janazay sa ziyda zrooi thi ya hazart abu bakr jasa app na rewat liki sab sa afzal tha un ko is baat ka yqeen nahi tha ka agar wo saqifa na ja to sad bin abada khlifa ban jia ga aur bad ma un ki koi baat nahi suna ga.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;saqifa ki asliya ma tumra jawab ka bad do ga&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /><br />bhai pahlay apna deen to maloomkur lo , apne likha hua hai SUNNI :)<br />yahan likhao main shia kaafir.<br />
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KOI JAWAB NAI BAN PARA TO CHAWEL MAR DI. KASH AAP LOG MOLA-E-KAYNAT KO SAMAJH PATAY TO SARAY MASAIL HAL HO JATY AAP NAAM NAHAD MUSLMANO SAY TO HINDU AOURAT KA EMAN PUKHTA HAI ZARA MULHAIZA HO: -

ALLAH SAY IK HARAF-E-JALI MANG RAHI HUN

YAZDAN KI WILYAT SY WALI MANG RAHI HUN

LO KAR DIA KONAIN (SAWW) KO DIWALIA MAIN NEY

MAIN US KAY KHAZANY SAY ALI MANG RAHI HUN

IT IS A SAYING OF (ROOP KUMAR DEVI) IN HER BOOK "BAS ALI KAY BAN JAO" SHE IS HINDU POETESS....

FOR GOD SAKE FIND OUT THE TRUTH DO NOT PLAY BLAME GAME.

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Posted 15 September 2010 - 05:36 PM

you are right brother, there is not much difference between hindus and shias... And additionally hindus of india(lucknow) take part in 10th muharram juloos and they too do matam for hz hussain(ra)... And remember one thing all the mushriks of the world can unite with you and agree with your practises as long as its against islam...
Allah is the MAULA of those who believe, whereas the disbelievers have no MAULA (Quran 47:11)

HASBUNALLAHU WA NEMAL WAKEEL, NEMAL MAULA WA NEMAN NASEER
Translation: "Allah (Alone) is Sufficient for us, and He is the Best Disposer of affairs (for us); what an Excellent Maula (Patron, Lord) and what an Excellent Helper!

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Posted 15 September 2010 - 06:35 PM

Mustafa ka ham safar Abubakar Abubakar
Gali gali nagar nagar umar umar ,umar umar
chaman chaman kali kali Usmane ne gani or Ali Ali

Mere aka MUHAMMAD S.A.W  par lakho salaaam wo Allah k Habib laya ek paigam maanlo khuda ko ek khuda ho jao jannat ko tayyar

mai apni bat ki shuruwat ye kehne se shuru karna chahta hu ki shia sab kafir or jhahil kom hai
shia sab laa-nati hai Allah ki la-nat ho shiao par
Allah ta-ala ne Huzure paak MUHAMMED S.A.W  ko apna nabi banakar bheja wo khatumul ambiya hai unke baad koi nabi nahi ane wala .

Ab mere sawaal ye hai ki Din-e-islaam mere nabi ka to gour farmayiye ki Nabi karim MUHAMMED S.A.W ne ek hadeees mai farmaya jiska mafhoom hai ki : mere sare sahaba (r.a) sitaro k manind hai ek ki b ittiba karli wo jannati hai .
ab jab sare sahaba rasul ki nazar mai jannati to kafiro tum kon hoty ho un hastiyo par ungli uthane waly
sharam karo wo jinhone apni aankho se Huzur ki ziyarat ki or Allah ne unke bare mai Quran mai farmaya ki "mai unse razi or wo mujhse razi"
to jhalio jinse Allah razi tum kon hoty ho ungli uthane waly
ek hadees ka mafhoom hai ki Hazrat Abubakar r.a k agay ek sahabi chaly gaye to Huzur S.A.W ne farmaya ki mujhe nahi pasand ki Abubakar ko koi pith dikhaye.
jhahilo kafiro tum un par ungli uthate ho sharam karo jo Muhammad ko pyare thai .
ab bat hai Umar (r.a) to unke bare mai mere aka Farmaty hai ki Mere baad koi nabi hota to wo Umar hoty.
shia kafir unko bura kehte hai jiske fesle par Allah ne Quran mai ayte utari or  fesla kardiya .
ab akhri bat or ek sawaaal Hazrat Ali (r.a) ki 36 olady yani ki 36 childern hai jinme se unki 3 bachcho ke naam 1)abubakar 2)Umar or 3)usmaan agar Hazrat ALi (r.a) in sahabiyo ke khilaf hoty to ye na karte tum logo ne sirf Hazrat Hassan (r.a) or Hussain(r.a) ko pakaad rakha hai baki sabko kaha gayab kardiya ...
jhahil muta ki olaad shia jo mere sahaba par ungli uthaye  or shiao tum hi ho jinhone HAZRAT Hasssan (r.a) or Hussain (r.a) ko shaheeed kiya .
iska sabse bada saboot ye hai ki tum log Hazrat Hussain ki shahadat ka gam or matam sirf mohram ki 9 tarikh tak banaty ho jabki unki shahadat 10 ko hui ab mujhe batao ki  gam to shadat ke bad hota hai pehle kese muta ki olado shia kafiro haramiyo .

ALLAH har shia ko hidayat ata farmaye or hak ki pehchan ata farmaye

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Posted 07 October 2010 - 11:53 AM

View PostFatah-Momin, on 30 August 2008 - 04:56 PM, said:

<br />shiaoon nay ab tak jawab nahi dia kay doosray imam nay teen din ka intizar keyoon nahi kia, aur imam ki wafaat ki raat ko he apni imamate a ilaan kar kay baite laynee shorroo kar dee. Akhir doosray imam nay intizaar keyoon nahi kia?<br />
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Good discussion i appreciate all of you my brothers. Mera aik question ha to all sheyas,... k according to them "Nabi(s) ke JANAZAY ko chor ke chalay gaey SAQIFA" or yai b ilzam ha k 3 din janaza para raha... So question is k agar aisa hoa tou HAZRAT ALI R.A ya other AHLE-bait NA janaza kyun nahin parhaa?

Sirf Shaikheen ko ilzaam kyun dia jata ha?
Kia qayamat walay din HAZRAT ALI R.A sa pucha nain jae ga k nabi ka janaza 3 din tak kyun para raha ?

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Posted 07 October 2010 - 11:54 AM

View PostFatah-Momin, on 30 August 2008 - 04:56 PM, said:

<br />shiaoon nay ab tak jawab nahi dia kay doosray imam nay teen din ka intizar keyoon nahi kia, aur imam ki wafaat ki raat ko he apni imamate a ilaan kar kay baite laynee shorroo kar dee. Akhir doosray imam nay intizaar keyoon nahi kia?<br />
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Good discussion i appreciate all of you my brothers. Mera aik question ha to all sheyas,... k according to them "Nabi(s) ke JANAZAY ko chor ke chalay gaey SAQIFA" or yai b ilzam ha k 3 din janaza para raha... So question is k agar aisa hoa tou HAZRAT ALI R.A ya other AHLE-bait NA janaza kyun nahin parhaa?

Sirf Shaikheen ko ilzaam kyun dia jata ha?
Kia qayamat walay din HAZRAT ALI R.A sa pucha nain jae ga k nabi ka janaza 3 din tak kyun para raha ?

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 05:17 PM

Rasool-e-Khuda ki Namaz e janazah Hazrat Ali nay he perhai thi bohat sy kitaboun mein ha per kuch munafiqoun nay bugz-e-Ali ki wajha sy is waqiye ko apni kitaboun mein he nai likha aur yeh likh diya k loog atay gaye aur namaz perhtay gaye....

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 05:42 PM

@hassan abbas.. lol kya tumhe nahi pata ke ye baat tumhare jaleel ul qadr Alim, kulayni ne apni al kafi me bhi likhi hai? pehle apni kitabein padhi phir yahan aana... bohot guzara karliya tumne kisse aur kahanion par...
Allah is the MAULA of those who believe, whereas the disbelievers have no MAULA (Quran 47:11)

HASBUNALLAHU WA NEMAL WAKEEL, NEMAL MAULA WA NEMAN NASEER
Translation: "Allah (Alone) is Sufficient for us, and He is the Best Disposer of affairs (for us); what an Excellent Maula (Patron, Lord) and what an Excellent Helper!

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 07:12 PM

acha tho aap ka matlab hai ki nashe ki halat main nimaz nahi padne hai, theek hai apka deen ahl-sunnat wal jamaat jo kam se kam nasha karne ki ijazat deta hai, magar hamare yahan to Hadith mai nasha haram hai. Nasha k bare mai aap k ek khalifa na kaha tha jab nasha bahut tari ho aur control na hoo tho zyada pani matlab dilute karke sharaab p sakte hai. Mazallah

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 07:27 PM

View Postswords_of_sunnah, on 15 September 2010 - 05:36 PM, said:

<br />you are right brother, there is not much difference between hindus and shias... And additionally hindus of india(lucknow) take part in 10th muharram juloos and they too do matam for hz hussain(ra)... And remember one thing all the mushriks of the world can unite with you and agree with your practises as long as its against islam...<br />
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I asure u that u will burn in hell coz in ur posts i always se the link below against Imam Sajad (A.S). Your definitly helping out to carry the mission of dajal. what is ur religion i assure u that ur not from an of the fiqa of muslims coz each and every fiqa lords have been taught by our imams, i.e by the 5th Imam Baqir (A.S) and the 6th Imam Imam Jaffer Sadiq (A.S), whether it be Abu Hanifa, Imamm Shafi, Imam Hanbal or Imam maliki. U have selected the name of Sword of Sunnah get it changed to Bloody sword of Dajal.

Regarding hindus mourning the martrydem of Imam Hussain (A.S), its true they are mourners but not like u who are just the viewers as were their at the time of karbala when hussain had offered people to decide between the karbala or the glory world, ur are the desendents of those people who chosed the world and not Hussain.

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 09:29 PM

View Postsyed kazmi, on 20 October 2010 - 07:12 PM, said:

acha tho aap ka matlab hai ki nashe ki halat main nimaz nahi padne hai, theek hai apka deen ahl-sunnat wal jamaat jo kam se kam nasha karne ki ijazat deta hai, magar hamare yahan to Hadith mai nasha haram hai. Nasha k bare mai aap k ek khalifa na kaha tha jab nasha bahut tari ho aur control na hoo tho zyada pani matlab dilute karke sharaab p sakte hai. Mazallah
was this in any way directed towards me or my last response?
Allah is the MAULA of those who believe, whereas the disbelievers have no MAULA (Quran 47:11)

HASBUNALLAHU WA NEMAL WAKEEL, NEMAL MAULA WA NEMAN NASEER
Translation: "Allah (Alone) is Sufficient for us, and He is the Best Disposer of affairs (for us); what an Excellent Maula (Patron, Lord) and what an Excellent Helper!

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 04:18 AM

View Postsyed kazmi, on 20 October 2010 - 07:27 PM, said:

I asure u that u will burn in hell coz in ur posts i always se the link below against Imam Sajad (A.S). Your definitly helping out to carry the mission of dajal. what is ur religion i assure u that ur not from an of the fiqa of muslims coz each and every fiqa lords have been taught by our imams, i.e by the 5th Imam Baqir (A.S) and the 6th Imam Imam Jaffer Sadiq (A.S), whether it be Abu Hanifa, Imamm Shafi, Imam Hanbal or Imam maliki. U have selected the name of Sword of Sunnah get it changed to Bloody sword of Dajal.

Regarding hindus mourning the martrydem of Imam Hussain (A.S), its true they are mourners but not like u who are just the viewers as were their at the time of karbala when hussain had offered people to decide between the karbala or the glory world, ur are the desendents of those people who chosed the world and not Hussain.
lol, that narration is present in your books. So in this way even your scholars will burn in hell . haha.. really get alife man. grow up.
Allah is the MAULA of those who believe, whereas the disbelievers have no MAULA (Quran 47:11)

HASBUNALLAHU WA NEMAL WAKEEL, NEMAL MAULA WA NEMAN NASEER
Translation: "Allah (Alone) is Sufficient for us, and He is the Best Disposer of affairs (for us); what an Excellent Maula (Patron, Lord) and what an Excellent Helper!

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 04:27 AM

View PostHasan abbas, on 20 October 2010 - 05:17 PM, said:

<br />Rasool-e-Khuda ki Namaz e janazah Hazrat Ali nay he perhai thi bohat sy kitaboun mein ha per kuch munafiqoun nay bugz-e-Ali ki wajha sy is waqiye ko apni kitaboun mein he nai likha aur yeh likh diya k loog atay gaye aur namaz perhtay gaye....<br />
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Question mera still woi ha.... 3 din tak janaza kyun para raha ? waja? According to you people janza chor k chalay gay (maaz-Allah) Tou baki loag tou mojood thay na...?K wo b nahin thay... so bakion na kyun nain parha????? "loog atay gaye aur namaz perhtay gaye." or janaza aisa e parha gaya tha...

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 09:55 AM

View Postswords_of_sunnah, on 20 October 2010 - 09:29 PM, said:

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View Postsyed kazmi, on 20 October 2010 - 07:12 PM, said:

acha tho aap ka matlab hai ki nashe ki halat main nimaz nahi padne hai, theek hai apka deen ahl-sunnat wal jamaat jo kam se kam nasha karne ki ijazat deta hai, magar hamare yahan to Hadith mai nasha haram hai. Nasha k bare mai aap k ek khalifa na kaha tha jab nasha bahut tari ho aur control na hoo tho zyada pani matlab dilute karke sharaab p sakte hai. Mazallah
was this in any way directed towards me or my last response?<br />
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you  r quite intelligent, yes it was direted towards u, because its u people who brought about fitna in the muslim world, ur the followers of Mauwiyyah the leader of unfaithful and ur latest leader being Abdul wahab najidi.You were left with no cclues when i asked u what made ayesha to come to the battle field and u folishly replied that she had came for negotiation.  How sad a lady of such a master mind came to negitiate in the battle field with an army of 20,000. dont tell it to a non-muslim he will laugh at u. Negotiation are not done in the battle field even by fool people.

Your ulema and moulanas are not still able to understand your religion and u r raising the finger towards ours.  Till few years back Ahl-sunnat had a common faith that Hazrat Abu-talib mazallah was a kafir but today from somewere out some of ur people have come to the conclusion that he was not a kafir.  Some people among ur coming towards the light and people like u will be left stranded with nothing on the judgement day.

May Allah tarnish and burn in hell those who say anything against Rasool and his ahl-bayt whether it b uu are any else.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 10:25 AM

lol, seems this moron lost his senses, when he saw his brother trap in his own pit.. lol So this fool came up to derail the thread... (wink)... And if you ask in what was he trapped, lol well his indirectly accused kulayni to be a munafiq..(wink)
Allah is the MAULA of those who believe, whereas the disbelievers have no MAULA (Quran 47:11)

HASBUNALLAHU WA NEMAL WAKEEL, NEMAL MAULA WA NEMAN NASEER
Translation: "Allah (Alone) is Sufficient for us, and He is the Best Disposer of affairs (for us); what an Excellent Maula (Patron, Lord) and what an Excellent Helper!





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