Ibne Abu Bakr

kya koi shia, imamat ko Quran se proof kr sakta he?

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Salam.

Ali Shah Hussain Bhai

Ya Log Karbala Ma Nahe Aaya Yahan Kia Aayn Ga :)

En Ka Kam Ya Hee Ha Dawat Datay Han Or Wapas Nahe Aatay.

Cave Kay Bahir Khary Ho Kar Gannay(Songs) Suntay Ha.

Chethe Na Koi Sandas Janay Wo Kon Saa Dass Kahan Tum Chally Gaya :)

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Salam.

Ali Shah Hussain Bhai

Ya Log Karbala Ma Nahe Aaya Yahan Kia Aayn Ga :)

En Ka Kam Ya Hee Ha Dawat Datay Han Or Wapas Nahe Aatay.

Cave Kay Bahir Khary Ho Kar Gannay(Songs) Suntay Ha.

Chethe Na Koi Sandas Janay Wo Kon Saa Dass Kahan Tum Chally Gaya :)

Salam Brother.

LOLOLOL.......Excellent Peotry..................I like yours style...........Keep it up.......Expose Rafades...........Bang Bang Shiaism to protect Islam.

Wasalam.

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@Jaffari

You have stated this Quranic Verse.

Quran chapter 118: For he who makes you image008.gif angry, he will be cut off.

INTERPRETE the VERSE you mentioned above and in light of this verse Hazrat Ali Status????????????????No Hanki Pinki ok???????????

You must be Shocked now?

Come on Jaffari what you have to say now?????????????????????????? What you gonna Call Ali(r.a)? Yours own Shias books prove that Ali(r.a) has caused anger to Fathima(r.a) which lead to cause Prophet Mohammad(pbuh).There are many other proofs that Hazrat Ali(r.a) caused anger to Hazrat Fathima(r.a) want some more?????????????????????????????????????????????

Fatima (as) got angry and stopped speaking to ABU BAKRA till she died.

[sahih Bukhari volume 4, book 53, hadith 325]

The Shia say that Fatima (رضّى الله عنها) was angry at Abu Bakr (رضّى الله عنه) in the incident of Fadak, but what about their own narrations that say that she was also angry at Ali (رضّى الله عنه) at the same time? We read the following, as narrated by Al-Majlisi's Haqq-ul-Yaqeen as well as in Al-Tusi's Amali:

"When Fatima asked for Fadak from Abu Bakr and he refused to give it to her, she returned full of anger that could not be described and she was sick; and
she(Fatima) was angry with Ali because he refused to help her
." (Al-Majlisi's Haqq-ul-Yaqeen, pp.203-204; also recorded in Al-Tusi's
Amali
, p.295)

Thus, based on the simple fact that Ali (رضّى الله عنه) made Fatima (رضّى الله عنها) angry on more than one occassion, we arrive at the following conclusions:

1) The Prophet's saying "whoever disturbs her, disturbs me" is addressed to Ali (رضّى الله عنه) but the Shia use it only for Abu Bakr (رضّى الله عنه); if this statement involved punishment from Allah then it would certainly befall Ali (رضّى الله عنه) before Abu Bakr (رضّى الله عنه).

2) There are other incidents (narrated by the well-reknowned Al-Majlisi, Al-Tusi, Al-Erbali, and others) that occurred in which Ali (رضّى الله عنه) angered Fatima (رضّى الله عنها). What is the Shia response to this anger? Whatever response they use to defend Ali (رضّى الله عنه), then we could use the same response to defend Abu Bakr (رضّى الله عنه).

you are a copy paster of lies posted on ahylelbayt.org website.

http://www.ahlelbayt.../sahabah/fadak5

i know how much your intelligence is! Make me learn also...........

First we should agree in light of hadith of bukhari and verse of Quran given by jaffri that "whoever makes Bibi Fatima Angry the Rasullullah will be angry from him" and angerness of Rasullullah will be that he will be out of isalm and in a way "Kaffir" . whether it will Abu Bakar, Omar or Ali.

right, i am waiting your answer in affirmation, Just YES or NO?....then we go from here

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Khan Sahab.

Etne See Baat Kay Leya Aap *Ali Shah Hussain Bhai* Ko Kun Zahmat Daa Rahay Han En Ka Chttay Bhai Saay Too Pahlly Mel Lo Us Kay Baad Aagay Chalna Theek Ha.Ya Jo Batayn Ma Kar Raha Hun Thore Daar Kay Leya Aapnay Dharm Ko Hataa Kar Or Suno Or Jawab Bhee Doo. Takkya Na Karna Plz Kun Kay Hum Muslim Jhot Saay Or Jhot Bolnay Walay Saay Nafrat Karty Han Then Up To You Might,

Pahlli Baat Too Ya Ha Kay Baat Imamat Ke Ho Rahe Thee Yahan Or Aap Nay Sawal Par Sawl Kar Deya Jo Kay Aap Logun Ka Kam Ha Khair Chalan Koi Baat Nahe Hum Bhee Aap Saay Sawal Kar Latay Han,

900 Latter Lekh Kar Kes Na Bolwaya Thaa Ahlay Bait Ko ???

Pir Un Ka Sath Bhee Deya Kay Nahe????

Hazart Muslim Bin Aqeel Kay Sath Akhre Lamhay Ma Kon Loug Sath Chor Kar Bhag Gaya Thaa???

Karbala Ma Sath Kun Nahe Deya Jung Ma ????

Hazart Zain Ul Abiden (R.A) Na Un Lougun Ko Dua Dee Thee Ya Baad Dua???

Ya Sub MUslim Han Aap Kay Dharm Ma ???

Kia Aap Ka Dharm Banay Wala Wo Pahla Insan Ibna Saba Muslim Ha ??

Khar Aap Ka Jawab Bhee Ese Ma Ha Or En Ke Wazat Bhee Aap Zaror Karna ...

Jen Sahba Ikram Ko Aap Hazart Muhammad Mustufa (S.A.W) Nay Un Ke Zendagi Ma Janat Ke Bashart Daa Dee Ho Un Kay Leya Aap Kia Kahan Ga ???

Janab Janat Sirf Muslims Kay Leya Banae Ha Kafirun Kay Leya Nahe .

Aap Hazart Muhammad (S.A.W) Siddque Ka Khetab Deya . Aap Nay Farooq Ka Khetab Deya Aap Nay Ghani Ke Khetab Deya.Aap Nay Shar e Khuda Ka Khetab Deya ..

Aap (S.A.W) Ghara Heera Ma Kes Kay Kandun Par Char Kar Gaya???

Hadit Ha Ek Dafa Aap (S.A.W) Ek Paahar Par Jaa Rahay Thaa Apnay Sahaba Kay Sath.

Hazrat Ali (R.A) Na Kaha Hazor صلي الله عليه و سلمMa Aap Ko Apnay Kandhun Par Utha Kar Lay Chalta Hun Aap (S.A.W) Nay Farmaya Ali Tum Babowat Ka Bouch Nahe Uthaa Sakaty.

Aap (S.A.W) Na Dua Ke Thee Kay Aap Hazart Umar (R.A) Muslim Ho Kar Aap Saay Melan .

Aap (S.A.W) Nay Ken Sahabi Kay Baray Ma Farmaya Agar Mary Baad Koi Nabi Aata Tu Wo???????? Kon Sahabi Hota

Ab Aap Kay Jawab Ka Intezar Rhay Ga Zaror Aana .

Cave Ma Nahe Jana Plz ...

Aap Kay Leya Ek Latefa Agar Samjh Ma AAya Too Theek Warana Pir Bhee Theek :)

Ek Dawat Ma Khan Sahab Gaya Whan Dakha Too Plats Ma White Tissue Thaa Woo Samjhay Kay Khnay Wale Cheez Ha Jasay He Khany Lagay Pechay Saay Dosray Khans Lougun Na Zoror Saay Awaz Lagai Nahe Khana Pheka Ha.

Woo Pochtay Han Hum Saay Kay Ghalib Kon Ha Koi Batalo Kay Hum Batlan KIa ???

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@Khan786,

Hmmmmmmmmm love to see you in pian..........cool down.......................baby cool downnnnnnnnnnnnnn

Yours approch to the Hadeth is same as Kharaji,i bet you are......................................Kharjee Rafadi.

You have already labelled and called Abu Bkar,Umer and Ali(May Allah be pleased with them all) apostates(nuzballah)

if you want me to call Abu Bkar,Umer and Ali to be Kaffar(Mazallah ).................never never never.............You are cursed Rafadi and Kharijee

Indeed you are Kharejiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Yours tendency is Kharjiiyaattttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

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Salam.

Ali Shah Hussain Bhai Aap Na Kun Zahmat Kee Etne Chote See Baat Par.

Ali Shah Hussain Bhai Aap Ka Kia Khyal Ha Ya Wapas Aaya Ga Ya Cave Ma Chup Jaya Ga :)

Ali Bhai En Kay Sawal Ka Sahe Jawab Deya Ha Ma Nay???? Or Sawal Bhee Sahe Keya Han Agar Koi Ghalti Ho Too Zaror Batliya Ga Plz ...

And Mr. 786 Come To dad Baby :)

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ARY IS SITE PR KOI SHIA ACTIVLY ANSWER BHE DAY RAHA HAI YA BS SAWAAL HE KR JATAY HAIN image002.gif

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Salam Deer dearest brother,

Classic,I love it.....lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...let see the when this Rat will come out of CAVE...lolz

You are doing great job.

Aap (S.A.W) Ghara Heera Ma Kes Kay Kandun Par Char Kar Gaya???

Hadit Ha Ek Dafa Aap (S.A.W) Ek Paahar Par Jaa Rahay Thaa Apnay Sahaba Kay Sath.

Hazrat Ali (R.A) Na Kaha Hazor صلي الله عليه و سلمMa Aap Ko Apnay Kandhun Par Utha Kar Lay Chalta Hun Aap (S.A.W) Nay Farmaya Ali Tum Nabowat Ka Bouch Nahe Uthaa Sakaty.[ Majlis Momineen and Ithajaaj Tabrasi Shias Books ]

@033333abcd

ARY IS SITE PR KOI SHIA ACTIVLY ANSWER BHE DAY RAHA HAI YA BS SAWAAL HE KR JATAY HAIN.

Very well said brother.Because they havent got answer to our questions............

Wasalam

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Salam Ali Shah Hussain,

Thank You Aap Nay Es Book Ko Cod Bhee Kar Deya Char Chand Laga Deya Aap Nay Es Sawal Ma Dakho Aab Kia Replly Kartay Han.

Ab Aap Dakhna Ya Sawal Par Sawal Karan Ga Warna Aai Ga Hee Nahe.

Ali Bhai Ma Nay Aap Ke Discussion dosry forum Ma Dakhe Kia Khub Aap Nay Us Shia Ke DHUNANI Ke Maza Aa Gaya .

Aap Na Bhee Akhir Tak Us Ke Jan Nahe Chore :)

Ali Bhai Maza Nahe Aa Raha Koi Dua Karany Kay Cave Saay Bahir Ya Loug Aa Jayan .

Ya Sanehya Mary Waham O Guma Ma Bhee Na Thaa .

Sawal Karnay Wala Muslaman Bhee Na Thaa .

Ghum Ya Nahe Kay Wo CAVE Ma Chala Gaya.

Ghum Too Ya Ha Kay Jawab Bhee Na Deya.

wo chally gay jany kahan jin ko hum yaad thay

W Salam

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'Shuro karta hon Allah k naam se, jo barha meherban hai, aur nehayat rehem karnay wala hai'

'Tamam taareefein bs usi Allah ki, jo sab se barha hai, aur Muhammad sal Allaho Alehi wa'Aal-e-hi wassalam Allah k nabi-e-barhaq hein,

aur Ali alehis salam un k wasi o janasheen hein'

yeh sawaal jaiz hai k agar Imamat hai to Quran mein ishara hoga, magar kia yeh sach nahi, k Quran k ishaaro ko hum sb apnay andaz se lete hein?

kia is mein ab koi shuk hai, k agar mein kuch ayat hadia kardon tb bhi logo k dilo ko tasalli na hogi, kion k unki nigah mein us ka ishara kuch aur hoga?

magar sab se ziada qudrat rakhnay wali zaat jo Allah ki hai, us ne kuch wazay ayat utaari hein, jo Rasool Salam o Alehi ne kai baar hadees ki soorat mein bhi wazay farmayin or aaj sunni bhayion k kutub mein bhi darj hein...

yahan Imamat ko sabit krnay k liay kuch isharay Quran mein darj hein...

"Allah se daro, aur us k darbaar mein rasai ka waseela talash karo" Sorah-e-Maida ayat 35.

Rasool-e-Khuda salam o alehi se poocha gaya k waseela kis ka banaya jaye?

Kitaab Faryad-ul-Samtain, Jild 1, Page 37.

"Rasool(salam o alehi) nay farmaya, Hum kashti - nijaat hein, jo is per sawar hogya wo nijaat pa gaya, or jab tum Allah k huzoor jaya karo to hum Ehel-e-Bait ka waseela dia karo"

kia Rasool apni taraf se bhi kuch bolta hai? nahi, wo to jo bhi keta hai bs Allah k hukm se bolta hai..

aur atay hein,

"ay emaan waalo, tumharay rehnuma to bas Allah, us ka Rasool or wo emaan walay hein jo emaan laye, or jo namaz qaim kartay hein, or haalt-e-rukoo mein zakaat dete hein" Sorah-e-Maida ayat 55

Tamam fiqh is baat per muttafiq hein, or tamam kutub e hadees or taareekh mein darj hai k Hazrat Ali alehis salam ne Roko ki halat hein sayil ko angothi ki zakat di thi.

aur ayeay, Sorah-e-Aal-e-Imran ayat 61 parhtay hein,

"Ay nabi (Salam o alehi).agar is ilm k baad jo tujhay aya hai, agar koi tujh se jhagrha karay to keh k ao hum apnay beto or tumharay beto, apni aurato or tumhari aurato ko, apni jaan or tumhari jaan ko bulaein,phir girhgighra kr dua karein or jhoto pr Allah ki lanat karein" Sorah-e-Aal-e-Imran ayat 61..

Sahih Muslim mein Saad ibn-e-abi waqas riwayat krtay hein k is ayat k baad Rasool-e-Khuda ne Ali ko lia, aur lia Fatima slamo alehi ko, aur lia hasan o hussain ko or farmaya, k yeh mere ehel-e-bait hein.

aur ayeay k Rasool ne Kia farmaya Ghadeer mein;

"Ali or mein juda nahi hein, aur mere baad emaan waalo ka wali Ali hai"

SUNNI References : Al Tarmizi , in His Sahih, Page no.297

Ahmed Ibn-e-humble in his masnad, Vol 4, Page no.437, Verse 356

Abu Dawood Alt Tayalisi in His Masnad, Vol 3, Page no.111

Sorah-e-Saba ayat 23,

Sorah-e-Shora ayat 23..

Tmam tr Nabi slam o alehi k baad k rahnumao ki nishaniya btati hein...

to mujhay batao k kia apnay Rasool ki baat per tumhe bharosa nahi?

Kia imamat ki daleel mangnay mein apni muqaddas kutub-e-Hadees per bharosa nahi?

mere musalman bhai, tum ne upar jo kuch likha mujhay andaza hai kuch soch kr likha. magar ek kitaab ka naam bhi likh dete to mujhay saholat ho jati, is trha sun kr ya apni raye biyan kr k, kuch nahi kia jata.. aap k pas reference ho apki or humari kutub ka to behtr hai, werna to mazaq urhta jaye ga.

jesa k khilafat ki selection Quran mein nahi per agar mein Quran se reference mangon k pehlay khalifa k liay koi nishani? aap ko mushkil hogi..

Nabi Salam o alehi k alfaz humaray liay hidayat hein..

Aur koi sawal hai to mujhay moqa dijeay ga...

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Umer bhai tuse gr8 ho apnay name ke tarhan ? or Fatha bahi ap bee bat ya ha kay Allah jes ko hedayat dana chahay da data ha . aap apna kam buhat acha or iman dare kay sath kar rahay han balkay tamam muslims bhaiyun ko Allah apne hefazat ma rakhy or elam de doulat say mala mal kary Ameen.

TUMHARAY SAWALON KAY JAWAB MAY NAY

ROOM : KARAM ULLAH WAJHU KI DALEEL PAISH KARO MAY DAY DIYA HAY PARH LO

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Kaho Khaat Kee........ Sunay Khalyan Ke :) Janab Jazbat Bar Kabu Karo Or Sahe Saay Parhoo Ma Bol Kia Raha Hun UCHALNAY ke Zarort Nahe Ha Teek Saay Parhoo Or Jes Forum Ma Baat Ho Jawab Bhee Use Ma Doo Theek Ha.....Tu Suno Baat Ya Thee Kay..

900 Latter Lekh Kar Kes Na Bolwaya Thaa Ahlay Bait Ko ???

Pir Un Ka Sath Bhee Deya Kay Nahe????

Hazart Muslim Bin Aqeel Kay Sath Akhre Lamhay Ma Kon Loug Sath Chor Kar Bhag Gaya Thaa???

Karbala Ma Sath Kun Nahe Deya Jung Ma ????

Hazart Zain Ul Abiden (R.A) Na Un Lougun Ko Dua Dee Thee Ya Baad Dua???

Ya Sub MUslim Han Aap Kay Dharm Ma ???

Kia Aap Ka Dharm Banay Wala Wo Pahla Insan Ibna Saba Muslim Ha ??

Khar Aap Ka Jawab Bhee Ese Ma Ha Or En Ke Wazat Bhee Aap Zaror Karna ...

Jen Sahba Ikram Ko Aap Hazart Muhammad Mustufa (S.A.W) Nay Un Ke Zendagi Ma Janat Ke Bashart Daa Dee Ho Un Kay Leya Aap Kia Kahan Ga ???

Janab Janat Sirf Muslims Kay Leya Banae Ha Kafirun Kay Leya Nahe .

Aap Hazart Muhammad (S.A.W) Siddque Ka Khetab Deya . Aap Nay Farooq Ka Khetab Deya Aap Nay Ghani Ke Khetab Deya.Aap Nay Shar e Khuda Ka Khetab Deya ..

Aap (S.A.W) Ghara Heera Ma Kes Kay Kandun Par Char Kar Gaya???

Hadit Ha Ek Dafa Aap (S.A.W) Ek Paahar Par Jaa Rahay Thaa Apnay Sahaba Kay Sath.

Hazrat Ali (R.A) Na Kaha Hazor صلي الله عليه و سلمMa Aap Ko Apnay Kandhun Par Utha Kar Lay Chalta Hun Aap (S.A.W) Nay Farmaya Ali Tum Babowat Ka Bouch Nahe Uthaa Sakaty.

Aap (S.A.W) Na Dua Ke Thee Kay Aap Hazart Umar (R.A) Muslim Ho Kar Aap Saay Melan .

Aap (S.A.W) Nay Ken Sahabi Kay Baray Ma Farmaya Agar Mary Baad Koi Nabi Aata Tu Wo???????? Kon Sahabi Hota

Ab Aap Kay Jawab Ka Intezar Rhay Ga Zaror Aana .

Cave Ma Nahe Jana Plz ...

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Kaho Khaat Kee........ Sunay Khalyan Ke :) Janab Jazbat Bar Kabu Karo Or Sahe Saay Parhoo Ma Bol Kia Raha Hun UCHALNAY ke Zarort Nahe Ha Teek Saay Parhoo Or Jes Forum Ma Baat Ho Jawab Bhee Use Ma Doo Theek Ha.....Tu Suno Baat Ya Thee Kay..

900 Latter Lekh Kar Kes Na Bolwaya Thaa Ahlay Bait Ko ???

Pir Un Ka Sath Bhee Deya Kay Nahe????

Hazart Muslim Bin Aqeel Kay Sath Akhre Lamhay Ma Kon Loug Sath Chor Kar Bhag Gaya Thaa???

Karbala Ma Sath Kun Nahe Deya Jung Ma ????

Hazart Zain Ul Abiden (R.A) Na Un Lougun Ko Dua Dee Thee Ya Baad Dua???

Ya Sub MUslim Han Aap Kay Dharm Ma ???

Kia Aap Ka Dharm Banay Wala Wo Pahla Insan Ibna Saba Muslim Ha ??

Khar Aap Ka Jawab Bhee Ese Ma Ha Or En Ke Wazat Bhee Aap Zaror Karna ...

Jen Sahba Ikram Ko Aap Hazart Muhammad Mustufa (S.A.W) Nay Un Ke Zendagi Ma Janat Ke Bashart Daa Dee Ho Un Kay Leya Aap Kia Kahan Ga ???

Janab Janat Sirf Muslims Kay Leya Banae Ha Kafirun Kay Leya Nahe .

Aap Hazart Muhammad (S.A.W) Siddque Ka Khetab Deya . Aap Nay Farooq Ka Khetab Deya Aap Nay Ghani Ke Khetab Deya.Aap Nay Shar e Khuda Ka Khetab Deya ..

Aap (S.A.W) Ghara Heera Ma Kes Kay Kandun Par Char Kar Gaya???

Hadit Ha Ek Dafa Aap (S.A.W) Ek Paahar Par Jaa Rahay Thaa Apnay Sahaba Kay Sath.

Hazrat Ali (R.A) Na Kaha Hazor صلي الله عليه و سلمMa Aap Ko Apnay Kandhun Par Utha Kar Lay Chalta Hun Aap (S.A.W) Nay Farmaya Ali Tum Babowat Ka Bouch Nahe Uthaa Sakaty.

Aap (S.A.W) Na Dua Ke Thee Kay Aap Hazart Umar (R.A) Muslim Ho Kar Aap Saay Melan .

Aap (S.A.W) Nay Ken Sahabi Kay Baray Ma Farmaya Agar Mary Baad Koi Nabi Aata Tu Wo???????? Kon Sahabi Hota

Ab Aap Kay Jawab Ka Intezar Rhay Ga Zaror Aana .

Cave Ma Nahe Jana Plz ...

pehli baat 900 letters nahi 9000 thousand letters likh kar bulaya tha kofa waloon nay ehl bait (a.s) ko.

kyn kay wo yazid jaisay sharabi aur bad kar say nijat chahtay thay.

kyn kay un logonn may himaat nahi thi kay wo log ali a.s kay shia ban kay yazid kay khilaf larh saken.

hazrat muslim ka sath shiyoun nay nahi ttum logon nay chora tha zara tareek ghor say parho to pata chalay ga jin buzrugoon par tum akar rahay ho wo jung eauhad say kaisay bhaagay thay wahi aadat un ki ouladoon may bhi aai thi jo hazrat muslim ko chor kar bhhaag gay .

aur kon keh raha hay sheeon nay karbala may sath nahi diya khandan e ahl bait kay 18 jawan shaeed huay thay aur baqi shaheed kon thay khud socho wo khamakhai may aay thay shaheed honay . wo ali (a.s) kay shia thay jo oulad e ali(a.s) par apni jan nichawer karnay aay thay.

aur tum nay khud sabit kar diya tum logoon ka taluq islam say nahi hay yeh dharaam waram musalmanoo may nahi hota yeh thumhara tariqa tum hi ko mubarak ho.

gi haan ap s.a.w.w nay jin ko basharat di hay wo janat may jaen gay lekin jin kay naam aap log letay wo darasal jhoti aur zaeif hadits ka sahara lay kar batatay ho .

janat sirf muslims kay liyay hay aap logoon kay liyay nahi

hazrat ali ko app nay abu turab . ainullah ,karam ullah ,nafs ullah , aur kai aalqab bhi diyay thay wo bhi to bataoo . aur baqi jin logoon kay alqaab aap bata rahay ho koi hadith to ya riwayat to dikhaoo un kay liyay .lekin khuda kay liyay ravi sacha ho

yeh bataoo kabay may rakhay huay buut tornay kay liyay rasool e khuda (s.a.w.w) kay kandoon par kon sawar hua tha>

yeh jo nabowat kay bojh wali baat yeh riwayat ka refrencee bhi mujhay doo yaqenan app nay pori riwayat tehreer nahi ki hogi haq ko chupanay ki aadat jo purani hay aap ki kabhi bagh e fidak to kabhi khilafat????

hann dua ki thi kyn kay wo musalmanoo ko bohat takleff pohcha rahay thay.

yeh jo aap hazrat umer kay baray may kehtay ho sarasar jhoti hadith hay iss kay rawai hi koi muatabar nahi hain

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pehli baat 900 letters nahi 9000 thousand letters likh kar bulaya tha kofa waloon nay ehl bait (a.s) ko.

kyn kay wo yazid jaisay sharabi aur bad kar say nijat chahtay thay.

kyn kay un logonn may himaat nahi thi kay wo log ali a.s kay shia ban kay yazid kay khilaf larh saken.

hazrat muslim ka sath shiyoun nay nahi ttum logon nay chora tha zara tareek ghor say parho to pata chalay ga jin buzrugoon par tum akar rahay ho wo jung eauhad say kaisay bhaagay thay wahi aadat un ki ouladoon may bhi aai thi jo hazrat muslim ko chor kar bhhaag gay .

aur kon keh raha hay sheeon nay karbala may sath nahi diya khandan e ahl bait kay 18 jawan shaeed huay thay aur baqi shaheed kon thay khud socho wo khamakhai may aay thay shaheed honay . wo ali (a.s) kay shia thay jo oulad e ali(a.s) par apni jan nichawer karnay aay thay.

aur tum nay khud sabit kar diya tum logoon ka taluq islam say nahi hay yeh dharaam waram musalmanoo may nahi hota yeh thumhara tariqa tum hi ko mubarak ho.

gi haan ap s.a.w.w nay jin ko basharat di hay wo janat may jaen gay lekin jin kay naam aap log letay wo darasal jhoti aur zaeif hadits ka sahara lay kar batatay ho .

janat sirf muslims kay liyay hay aap logoon kay liyay nahi

hazrat ali ko app nay abu turab . ainullah ,karam ullah ,nafs ullah , aur kai aalqab bhi diyay thay wo bhi to bataoo . aur baqi jin logoon kay alqaab aap bata rahay ho koi hadith to ya riwayat to dikhaoo un kay liyay .lekin khuda kay liyay ravi sacha ho

yeh bataoo kabay may rakhay huay buut tornay kay liyay rasool e khuda (s.a.w.w) kay kandoon par kon sawar hua tha>

yeh jo nabowat kay bojh wali baat yeh riwayat ka refrencee bhi mujhay doo yaqenan app nay pori riwayat tehreer nahi ki hogi haq ko chupanay ki aadat jo purani hay aap ki kabhi bagh e fidak to kabhi khilafat????

hann dua ki thi kyn kay wo musalmanoo ko bohat takleff pohcha rahay thay.

yeh jo aap hazrat umer kay baray may kehtay ho sarasar jhoti hadith hay iss kay rawai hi koi muatabar nahi hain

Acha thu app nay ya maan liya ka kufoin na app to 9000 letetrs likay?

Phir app kaha kyn kay un logonn may himaat nahi thi kay wo log ali a.s kay shia ban kay yazid kay khilaf larh saken.

Ajeeb baath hai ka Hazrat Muslim na Imam Hussain(r.a) kalaya biat shiaon saay li jo ka app ka appney kathaboon maay hai and

alzaam sunnion paay laghato ka woo hazrat Muslim ko choor ga?

Auhad ki baath Munasaab nahi hai koyan ka aiska fasilal Allah na appni kitab Quran maay ker liaya hia and saab ko maaf ker dai.

Humara haq nahi bentha ka Allah ka fasla kerna ka baad bi woo masslaa cherian?yaa kufr hai.

Nobawat ka bohj wali baath meray bhai app ka appnay kitaboon maay darj hia.Ihtajjaj Tabarsi,Mujlis-e-Momineen appney ulema say pooch lo.

Haar wo rawayat app ko joht lagthi hai jo Abu Bkar,Umer ya Usman ka baray ma ho,bala app ki appni kitaboon ma hi koon na ho.

likian agar ya Ali ka baray ma hoo to chahay Abu huraray na kaha ho ya ibne Umer to baray khusi say qabool karathay ho,phir ya nahi dekhatay ka rawi kon hai?ya sarasar Munafiqat nahi hai tho aur kai hai?

Ya thread Shiaon ko Imamate Quran saay sabath karnay kaylia hia,dosri bathion kay liya doseray thread binay hoiay haiin,Humay Quran ki kissiy aik ayat shaay Imamat sabath kar dian.Meri urdu kamzur hia,ummed hia ka app bahra nahi managay.Sukerya

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Acha thu app nay ya maan liya ka kufoin na app to 9000 letetrs likay?

Phir app kaha kyn kay un logonn may himaat nahi thi kay wo log ali a.s kay shia ban kay yazid kay khilaf larh saken.

Ajeeb baath hai ka Hazrat Muslim na Imam Hussain(r.a) kalaya biat shiaon saay li jo ka app ka appney kathaboon maay hai and

alzaam sunnion paay laghato ka woo hazrat Muslim ko choor ga?

Auhad ki baath Munasaab nahi hai koyan ka aiska fasilal Allah na appni kitab Quran maay ker liaya hia and saab ko maaf ker dai.

Humara haq nahi bentha ka Allah ka fasla kerna ka baad bi woo masslaa cherian?yaa kufr hai.

Nobawat ka bohj wali baath meray bhai app ka appnay kitaboon maay darj hia.Ihtajjaj Tabarsi,Mujlis-e-Momineen appney ulema say pooch lo.

Haar wo rawayat app ko joht lagthi hai jo Abu Bkar,Umer ya Usman ka baray ma ho,bala app ki appni kitaboon ma hi koon na ho.

likian agar ya Ali ka baray ma hoo to chahay Abu huraray na kaha ho ya ibne Umer to baray khusi say qabool karathay ho,phir ya nahi dekhatay ka rawi kon hai?ya sarasar Munafiqat nahi hai tho aur kai hai?

Ya thread Shiaon ko Imamate Quran saay sabath karnay kaylia hia,dosri bathion kay liya doseray thread binay hoiay haiin,Humay Quran ki kissiy aik ayat shaay Imamat sabath kar dian.Meri urdu kamzur hia,ummed hia ka app bahra nahi managay.Sukerya

MAY NAY KUCH ATTACHMENTS LAGAI THEE WO CHECK KARLO TUMHARAJAWAB HAY USS MAY

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