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battle of JAMAL

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i request all my dear sunni brothers to post me the details regarding the battle of jamal reffering to the books of rafidis because i have answer a rafidi so i request all the sunni brothers to help in spreading the knowledge of true islam thanks to all and jazak allah khair

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Refer these links:

http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe/showthread.php?t=5555&highlight=jamal+shias

http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe/showthread.php?t=3234&highlight=jamal+shias

http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe/showthread.php?t=3267&highlight=jamal+shias

http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe/showthread.php?t=7682&highlight=jamal+aisha

http://www.ahlelbayt.com/articles/history/jamal

AND IF YOU CAN DOWNLOAD A BOOK THAT WOULD BE EXCELLENT THE BOOK NAME IS AL AWAASIM MIN AL QAWAASIM, ITS UPLOADED ON OUR WEBSITE AS WELL YOU MAY SEARCH ON GOOGLE TO DOWNLOAD THAT BOOK IN PDF FORMAT.... IT DEALS WITH THIS ISSUE IN DETAIL

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brother i want to knw the real story about the battle of jaamal according to the authentic soucers nor this so i request my dear brother to plz post me the details jazak allah

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The above are the links which refutes the arguments raised by shias, and regarding a fair book dealing with this incident then there may be many(but i gues sthey are most in arabic) , but for time being you may read al-'Awaasim min al-Qawaasim (in English)it can be downloaded from here

http://talk.islamicnetwork.com/showthread.php?t=3931

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bhai are there any details to let our shi brothers to knw the true face of our religion. bhai i dont want to tell anything from our books because he alredy told me that he dont beleive our books thats y if u can help me by quoting the references from nahj ul balagha and usul e kaafi i will thank ful to u and i pray allah for ur gud work thanks alot allahafiz

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<br />bhai are there any details to let our shi brothers to knw the true face of our religion. bhai i dont want to tell anything from our books because he alredy told me that he dont beleive our books thats y if u can help me by quoting the references from nahj ul balagha and usul e kaafi i will thank ful to u and i pray allah for ur gud work thanks alot allahafiz<br />
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i don't understand how quoting shia books will help spread the knowledge about true islam as you said |?

shia have their version and we have our version.

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bhai are there any details to let our shi brothers to knw the true face of our religion. bhai i dont want to tell anything from our books because he alredy told me that he dont beleive our books thats y if u can help me by quoting the references from nahj ul balagha and usul e kaafi i will thank ful to u and i pray allah for ur gud work thanks alot allahafiz

The first question you should ask that brother is that, do shias accept what is mentioned in their own books, because even if you take a lot of stress and provide them quotes from their own books, they will say that our books are not completely authetic bla bla, and he will make a move from their.... so what is the use then?

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<br />The first question you should ask that brother is that, do shias accept what is mentioned in their own books, because even if you take a lot of stress and provide them quotes from their own books, they will say that our books are not completely authetic bla bla, and he will make a move from their.... so what is the use then?<br />
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bhai he told me tht he only believe the two books that is usool e kaafi and nahjulbalagha

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bhai he told me tht he only believe the two books that is usool e kaafi and nahjulbalagha

usool e kafi? does he believes it to be 100% authentic? ask him yes or no? then we may proceed...

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<br />&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /><br />bhai he told me tht he only believe the two books that is usool e kaafi and nahjulbalagha<br />
<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />And if u qoute from Al-kafi they will easily say it's not 100% percent sahih. They do not grade or classify their hadiths on purpose so that can easily get out. To me almost all shia arguement on history can be solved by someone who thinks rationally. But unfortunately shias have been programmed, they can't think for themselves. Edited by KAM11
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<br />i request all my dear sunni brothers to post me the details regarding the battle of jamal reffering to the books of rafidis because i have answer a rafidi so i request all the sunni brothers to help in spreading the knowledge of true islam thanks to all and jazak allah khair<br />
<br /><br /><br />Assalaamo-Alaikum dear brother. Rafidis? What? Are you going to deny that Jang-e-Jamal took place? Who ever stands against the fourth Khalif and takes the law into their own hands is right? Are you going to deny the Prophet's [pbuh] hadith about one of his wives leaving her place at home, entering public affairs, going to war etc and she will be on the wrong? Oh! I t was not Hazrath Aisha's [ra] fault. Somebody else started it so it was their fault. Are you saying that she was stupid? Are you saying that she had no sense? Are you saying that she couldn't think straight? Don't humiliate and insult the LADY [RA] by saying somebody else started it and she took it further. [Jo-Galath-Huwa-Hai-Usko-Galath-Kaho-Aur-Jisne-Galath-Kiya-Hai-Usko-Zimedar-Tehrao-Bas-Bath-Khatam-Bath-Ko-Hawa-Math-Doh] Wassalaam.
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Assalaamo-Alaikum dear brother. Rafidis? What? Are you going to deny that Jang-e-Jamal took place? Who ever stands against the fourth Khalif and takes the law into their own hands is right? Are you going to deny the Prophet's [pbuh] hadith about one of his wives leaving her place at home, entering public affairs, going to war etc and she will be on the wrong? Oh! I t was not Hazrath Aisha's [ra] fault. Somebody else started it so it was their fault..
YEs . It was the mischeif of the sabaies(your forefathers)

Are you saying that she was stupid? Are you saying that she had no sense? Are you saying that she couldn't think straight? Don't humiliate and insult the LADY [RA] by saying somebody else started it and she took it further. [Jo-Galath-Huwa-Hai-Usko-Galath-Kaho-Aur-Jisne-Galath-Kiya-Hai-Usko-Zimedar-Tehrao-Bas-Bath-Khatam-Bath-Ko-Hawa-Math-Doh] Wassalaam.

Hold your horses, dirty rafidi....

Have you gone insane? if the mischeif was done by sabaies then how come its an insult to hz ayesha(ra), seems you have lost your senses... She approached just to make peace between then muslims... As a mother does when her sons fall in a dispute ... but unfortunately the sabaies out of fear of being exposed and punished planned this riot..

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Assalaamo-Alaikum dear brother. Rafidis? What? Are you going to deny that Jang-e-Jamal took place? Who ever stands against the fourth Khalif and takes the law into their own hands is right? Are you going to deny the Prophet's [pbuh] hadith about one of his wives leaving her place at home, entering public affairs, going to war etc and she will be on the wrong? Oh! I t was not Hazrath Aisha's [ra] fault. Somebody else started it so it was their fault..
YEs . It was the mischeif of the sabaies(your forefathers)

Are you saying that she was stupid? Are you saying that she had no sense? Are you saying that she couldn't think straight? Don't humiliate and insult the LADY [RA] by saying somebody else started it and she took it further. [Jo-Galath-Huwa-Hai-Usko-Galath-Kaho-Aur-Jisne-Galath-Kiya-Hai-Usko-Zimedar-Tehrao-Bas-Bath-Khatam-Bath-Ko-Hawa-Math-Doh] Wassalaam.

Hold your horses, dirty rafidi....

Have you gone insane? if the mischeif was done by sabaies then how come its an insult to hz ayesha(ra), seems you have lost your senses... She approached just to make peace between then muslims... As a mother does when her sons fall in a dispute ... but unfortunately the sabaies out of fear of being exposed and punished planned this riot..

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Assalaamo-Alaikum dear brother. Rafidis? What? Are you going to deny that Jang-e-Jamal took place? Who ever stands against the fourth Khalif and takes the law into their own hands is right? Are you going to deny the Prophet's [pbuh] hadith about one of his wives leaving her place at home, entering public affairs, going to war etc and she will be on the wrong? Oh! I t was not Hazrath Aisha's [ra] fault. Somebody else started it so it was their fault..
YEs . It was the mischeif of the sabaies(your forefathers)<br /><br />
<br /> Are you saying that she was stupid? Are you saying that she had no sense? Are you saying that she couldn't think straight? Don't humiliate and insult the LADY [RA] by saying somebody else started it and she took it further. [Jo-Galath-Huwa-Hai-Usko-Galath-Kaho-Aur-Jisne-Galath-Kiya-Hai-Usko-Zimedar-Tehrao-Bas-Bath-Khatam-Bath-Ko-Hawa-Math-Doh] Wassalaam.
<br />Hold your horses, dirty rafidi....<br /><br />Have you gone insane? if the mischeif was done by sabaies then how come its an insult to hz ayesha(ra), seems you have lost your senses... She approached just to make peace between then muslims... As a mother does when her sons fall in a dispute ... but unfortunately the sabaies out of fear of being exposed and punished planned this riot..<br />
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bhai that fellow told me that he only have his faith in nahj ul balagha so plzzzz help me through that book

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Assalaamo-Alaikum dear brother. Rafidis? What? Are you going to deny that Jang-e-Jamal took place? Who ever stands against the fourth Khalif and takes the law into their own hands is right? Are you going to deny the Prophet's [pbuh] hadith about one of his wives leaving her place at home, entering public affairs, going to war etc and she will be on the wrong? Oh! I t was not Hazrath Aisha's [ra] fault. Somebody else started it so it was their fault..
YEs . It was the mischeif of the sabaies(your forefathers)<br /><br />
<br /> Are you saying that she was stupid? Are you saying that she had no sense? Are you saying that she couldn't think straight? Don't humiliate and insult the LADY [RA] by saying somebody else started it and she took it further. [Jo-Galath-Huwa-Hai-Usko-Galath-Kaho-Aur-Jisne-Galath-Kiya-Hai-Usko-Zimedar-Tehrao-Bas-Bath-Khatam-Bath-Ko-Hawa-Math-Doh] Wassalaam.
<br />Hold your horses, dirty rafidi....<br /><br />Have you gone insane?
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