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Hazrat Fatima [ra] ki shahadat ya wafat ?

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ahan bhoat achi qurbani he wese biwi mar khati rehey or shere khuda chup chap khara rehey tamasha dekhta rehey .. bohat acha sabaq dia he umat ko....aik mashwera he mera ap shio ko k wo bhi ali(r.a) ki is sunnat per amal keren apni bvion ko bahir khara keren or sunnio ko bolen k inko maro or khud chup chap tamasha dekhey ta k ali(r.a) se muhabat ka saboot tu mile..wah g wah.....wese mere nazdeek ye gheratmando ka kam nahi

wese aik baat socho k is qurbani ka faida kia huwa adhi se zada ummat tu gumrah gayee kia imam ka yehi kam he or bahi ye zati masla nahi tha ye ummat ka masla tha ali(r.a) k amal per umat ka daromadar tha...yani ali(r.a) k samne ummat gumrah hoti rehi or ali(r.a) sber kiye huwe tha... wese humare nazdeek ye ali ki shan nahi... shio k nazdeek ho gi

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ahan bhoat achi qurbani he wese biwi mar khati rehey or shere khuda chup chap khara rehey tamasha dekhta rehey .. bohat acha sabaq dia he umat ko....aik mashwera he mera ap shio ko k wo bhi ali(r.a) ki is sunnat per amal keren apni bvion ko bahir khara keren or sunnio ko bolen k inko maro or khud chup chap tamasha dekhey ta k ali(r.a) se muhabat ka saboot tu mile..wah g wah.....wese mere nazdeek ye gheratmando ka kam nahi

wese aik baat socho k is qurbani ka faida kia huwa adhi se zada ummat tu gumrah gayee kia imam ka yehi kam he or bahi ye zati masla nahi tha ye ummat ka masla tha ali(r.a) k amal per umat ka daromadar tha...yani ali(r.a) k samne ummat gumrah hoti rehi or ali(r.a) sber kiye huwe tha... wese humare nazdeek ye ali ki shan nahi... shio k nazdeek ho gi

Janab yehi to aap loagon ka masla hai k aap hamesha zalim hi ki support kertay hain aur mazloom ko hamesha ghalat kehtay hain....aap ne kabhi iss baat per baat nahi k aakhir hazrat umar ne itna zulm kiya balkeh ulta mazloom per hi tohmaat laganay lag gaye k uss ne yeh kiun nahi kiya,woh kiun chup raha...ahl sunnah ki aap mawaiya se ab tak dekh lo aap hamesha hakim k sathi rahay hain khua woh sahi ho ya ghalat aur woh kitna bhi zalim hai woh aap ki nazar mein sahi hai...aur jo mazloom ahtejaj bhi karay ya uss per kiye gaye zulm ka zikr ho to aap ulta ussi se tafteesh shuru ker detay hain k aisa kiun hua,waisa kiun na hua...kabhi zalim se bhi pocha k tum ne aisa kiun kia ??
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ahan bhoat achi qurbani he wese biwi mar khati rehey or shere khuda chup chap khara rehey tamasha dekhta rehey .. bohat acha sabaq dia he umat ko....aik mashwera he mera ap shio ko k wo bhi ali(r.a) ki is sunnat per amal keren apni bvion ko bahir khara keren or sunnio ko bolen k inko maro or khud chup chap tamasha dekhey ta k ali(r.a) se muhabat ka saboot tu mile..wah g wah.....wese mere nazdeek ye gheratmando ka kam nahi

wese aik baat socho k is qurbani ka faida kia huwa adhi se zada ummat tu gumrah gayee kia imam ka yehi kam he or bahi ye zati masla nahi tha ye ummat ka masla tha ali(r.a) k amal per umat ka daromadar tha...yani ali(r.a) k samne ummat gumrah hoti rehi or ali(r.a) sber kiye huwe tha... wese humare nazdeek ye ali ki shan nahi... shio k nazdeek ho gi

Janab yehi to aap loagon ka masla hai k aap hamesha zalim hi ki support kertay hain aur mazloom ko hamesha ghalat kehtay hain....aap ne kabhi iss baat per baat nahi k aakhir hazrat umar ne itna zulm kiya balkeh ulta mazloom per hi tohmaat laganay lag gaye k uss ne yeh kiun nahi kiya,woh kiun chup raha...ahl sunnah ki aap mawaiya se ab tak dekh lo aap hamesha hakim k sathi rahay hain khua woh sahi ho ya ghalat aur woh kitna bhi zalim hai woh aap ki nazar mein sahi hai...aur jo mazloom ahtejaj bhi karay ya uss per kiye gaye zulm ka zikr ho to aap ulta ussi se tafteesh shuru ker detay hain k aisa kiun hua,waisa kiun na hua...kabhi zalim se bhi pocha k tum ne aisa kiun kia ??

nahi bahi hum zalim k sath nahi hen asal me apne kabhi ahle sunnah ko samjha hi nahi humara ye muqaf he k ye zulm kabhi huwa hi nahi..... jab zulm hi ni kiya omer(r.a) ne tu hum omer(r.a) per tanqeed q kerin ...Hum kal bhi ali(r.a) k sath they or aj b ali(r.a) k sath hen jab ali(r.a) abubaker k sath ho gaye tu hum bhi ho gaye...wo umer k sath ho gaye hum b ho gayejin jin k sath ali(r.a) ne dia hum b de rehey hen....mera aqeeda ye he k ager ali per zulm huwa hota tu ali(r.a) khara hota or sari ummat ali(r.a) k sath khari hoti....lekin jab unho ne unka sath dia tu q na den... ager 30 saal tak ummat muhamadia :laugh: gumarhi k raste per chalti rehi or ali(r.a) dekhtey rehey ye hum nahi mantey..... hum hussain(r.a) k sath hen coz unho ne zulm k khilaf awaz buland ki.....

bahi tareekh apko sab kuch batye gi jhoot bhi or sach bhi ab ye ap depend kerta he k jhoot ko mantey ho ya such koo...ager ap khud tazad me phans gaye tu ankhen band kerlo tak ager sawab nahi milna tu kam az kam gunnah tu na miley...

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koi ek sahe hadit dekha do kabhee or kahee tou Hazart Ali Na Ihtejaj Kia Hoga.... ap samjhty ha Haider e karar shar e khuda zulfiqar mola ali (R.A) ya sub hoty howa dekh sakty han ? kuch tou kaha hoga chalo Hazart imam hassan or hazart imam Hussain (R.A) na tou ahtejaj kia hoga? etna bolny saa pahlly ya tou soch lo ka ya etnay baday ensan zulum hotay howa dakh sakty han ? jenhoyan islam kay leya sub kuch qurban kar deya or ya zulum hota howa dakh sakty han .. ap kahty ho sabar kia acha tou pir Jang jamal or safeen ma sabar nahe kia .. ghar ma zulum hota dakha pir bayat bhee kar ke ek dafa nahe 3 dafa bayat ke ..... Hazart abu bakar (R.A) ke dour ma Bagh Nahe Mela Hazart Umar (R.A) dour Ma Nahe Mela Hazart Usman (R.A) dour Ma Nahe Mela tou apne Khalfat Ma Hee Laa Laaty koi Khas Waja ????????????

Toulo Phir Boulo ....

Shia Dharam Sirf Rewayat par hee chalta ha ...Quran Ko Sahe Ya Nahe Manty Sunnat e Rasool Ek Nahe Karty Dawa Muslim Ka Karty Han..

kahe ma na parha thaa DUNYA KA SUB SAA BAAD TARAN MAZHAB SHIA MAZHAB HA ...

jo hadit aap paysish karty ho pahlly hadit prahnay ka tareka sekho ...

jo hadit Quran or Sunnat ke roshni ma na melay usko dewar par utha kar maar do...

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Shia hazrat kehtey hain k Haaazret Fatima r.a ko Hazret Umer r.a ne shaheed kia tha iss main kitni haqeeqet ha or kitna jhoot ha plz prove wid Refrences

Bhai jaisa k yahan per kuch members aap ko jhooti tasalian de rahay hain k yeh sab jhoot hai aisa koi waqiya hua hi nahi,iss k liye phir mein aap ko ahl sunnah ki books k scan pages dikhata hoon jis mein yeh waqiya mojood hai...

http://referenceliba...albumid=7125371

http://referenceliba...albumid=6826845

Aur ab mein aap ko woh pages dikhaon ga jis mein likha hai k hazrat abu bakar ne aakhri waqt mein kaha k kash mein Hazrat Fatima a.s k ghar ka darwaza tornay ki ijazat na deta khua woh jang k liye hi kun na bund kiya hota...

http://referenceliba...albumid=7912387

Yeh loag kitni books ko jhoota kahein ge ?? aur kon kon se riwayat ko ghalat kahein ge ??

tUMARI HI kATIBION SAAY THUMARAY JOHATAY DHAWION KA JAWAB.................Molahaz ho.....wacko.gif

http://islamic-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=12792

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bahi ye bat tu aqal tasleem nahi kerti or insan apne hath se likhi hoi kitabo per kese yaqen ker le...

Hazrat ali(r.a) shabi rasool :Muhammad[S.A.W.W]: or damade rasool(:tongue:) bad me hen lekin aik arbi pehley hen.....log tu tane tane mar mar ker wese hi mar den k dekho bivi ko mar khata huwa dekhta reha kis kuch bhi wese bara bahadur bana phirta he.....Naozbillah....or wo sirf bv nahi thi wo binte rasool jiger goosha rasool thin :tongue: madine ka aik shaks bhi nahi khara huwa kia us waqat madine me aik shia bhi nahi tha ..ager nahi tha tu aj b nahi hone chayien ager tha tu lanat he shio per jo us waqat beth ker tamasha dekhtey rehey or aj rote hen.........

Nabi :Muhammad[s.A.W.W]:ko apni auld se ziyada apni umat ki fiker thi app :Muhammad[S.A.W.W]: akhri waqat me bhi apni ummat ki kher mangte rehey....or ali(r.a) jo k ummat k pehle imam they wo sber ker bethey rahey or ummat gmrah hoti rehi... kia faida aise imam ka jo ummat k liye kuch na ker saka....or saber kerta reha...

Bahr ul anwar me shio ki aik riwayat he imam hussain se....k jo shaks zulm ko hota huwa dekhey or usko rokne k liye kuch na kero tu lazim he k usko zalim k sath ag me phenk do...

ab is hadees me tu imam bhi agaye coz unho ne kuch nahi kia...

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bahi ye bat tu aqal tasleem nahi kerti or insan apne hath se likhi hoi kitabo per kese yaqen ker le...

Hazrat ali(r.a) shabi rasool :Muhammad[S.A.W.W]: or damade rasool(:tongue:) bad me hen lekin aik arbi pehley hen.....log tu tane tane mar mar ker wese hi mar den k dekho bivi ko mar khata huwa dekhta reha kis kuch bhi wese bara bahadur bana phirta he.....Naozbillah....or wo sirf bv nahi thi wo binte rasool jiger goosha rasool thin :tongue: madine ka aik shaks bhi nahi khara huwa kia us waqat madine me aik shia bhi nahi tha ..ager nahi tha tu aj b nahi hone chayien ager tha tu lanat he shio per jo us waqat beth ker tamasha dekhtey rehey or aj rote hen.........

Nabi :Muhammad[s.A.W.W]:ko apni auld se ziyada apni umat ki fiker thi app :Muhammad[S.A.W.W]: akhri waqat me bhi apni ummat ki kher mangte rehey....or ali(r.a) jo k ummat k pehle imam they wo sber ker bethey rahey or ummat gmrah hoti rehi... kia faida aise imam ka jo ummat k liye kuch na ker saka....or saber kerta reha...

Bahr ul anwar me shio ki aik riwayat he imam hussain se....k jo shaks zulm ko hota huwa dekhey or usko rokne k liye kuch na kero tu lazim he k usko zalim k sath ag me phenk do...

ab is hadees me tu imam bhi agaye coz unho ne kuch nahi kia...

Junoon Aap Kuch Bhee Kar Lo Unhonay Nahe Mana Hanse Aate Ha Un ke Batoon Par Kia Kia Bolty Han .. Sirf Ek Baat Janta Hun .... Dunya Ka Sub Saa Badtareen Mahab Shia Mazhab Ha ...

Unko Unke Books Ka Hawala Deya Pir Bhee Yaqeen nahe Kar Rahe Pahlly Apne Books Ko Parho Pir Baat Karo Maloon Majlesi Ke Book Parh Kar Tou Un Ka Eman Bana Ha ....

Junoon Aap Na Jo Riwayat Payish Ke Ha Ub Aap Dakhna Asaa Funny Answer Daan Ga Aap Unke Baat Ko Parh Kar Hanso ga Or Socho Ga Ya bol Kia Raha Ha ..Ub Aap Dakhna Es Baat Ko Ub Ya Kahan Saa Kahan Laay Kar Jayan Ga Kabhee Ek Topic Par Rah He Nahe Sakty Sawal Ka Jawab Nahe Daan Ga Balkay Sawal Par Sawal Karan Ga Or Topic Saa Haat Jayan Ga ..

Ya Shia Bhee Totay Ke Tarhan Hotay Han Jo Unko Ratao Ga Wahe Bolan Ga ....

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Shia hazrat kehtey hain k Haaazret Fatima r.a ko Hazret Umer r.a ne shaheed kia tha iss main kitni haqeeqet ha or kitna jhoot ha plz prove wid Refrences

Bhai jaisa k yahan per kuch members aap ko jhooti tasalian de rahay hain k yeh sab jhoot hai aisa koi waqiya hua hi nahi,iss k liye phir mein aap ko ahl sunnah ki books k scan pages dikhata hoon jis mein yeh waqiya mojood hai...

http://referenceliba...albumid=7125371

http://referenceliba...albumid=6826845

Aur ab mein aap ko woh pages dikhaon ga jis mein likha hai k hazrat abu bakar ne aakhri waqt mein kaha k kash mein Hazrat Fatima a.s k ghar ka darwaza tornay ki ijazat na deta khua woh jang k liye hi kun na bund kiya hota...

http://referenceliba...albumid=7912387

Yeh loag kitni books ko jhoota kahein ge ?? aur kon kon se riwayat ko ghalat kahein ge ??

tUMARI HI kATIBION SAAY THUMARAY JOHATAY DHAWION KA JAWAB.................Molahaz ho.....wacko.gif

http://islamic-forum...showtopic=12792

wah wah deobundi tahir ul qadri pe kub se iman le ai kia ye references kisi deobundi alim ne apni taqreer me ya kitab me nahi likhe the jo ap ko dar e qadri pe jana par gaya lolzzzzzzz

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bahi ye bat tu aqal tasleem nahi kerti or insan apne hath se likhi hoi kitabo per kese yaqen ker le...

Hazrat ali(r.a) shabi rasool :laugh: or damade rasool(:laugh:) bad me hen lekin aik arbi pehley hen.....log tu tane tane mar mar ker wese hi mar den k dekho bivi ko mar khata huwa dekhta reha kis kuch bhi wese bara bahadur bana phirta he.....Naozbillah....or wo sirf bv nahi thi wo binte rasool jiger goosha rasool thin :Muhammad[S.A.W.W]: madine ka aik shaks bhi nahi khara huwa kia us waqat madine me aik shia bhi nahi tha ..ager nahi tha tu aj b nahi hone chayien ager tha tu lanat he shio per jo us waqat beth ker tamasha dekhtey rehey or aj rote hen.........

Nabi :Muhammad[s.A.W.W]:ko apni auld se ziyada apni umat ki fiker thi app :Muhammad[S.A.W.W]: akhri waqat me bhi apni ummat ki kher mangte rehey....or ali(r.a) jo k ummat k pehle imam they wo sber ker bethey rahey or ummat gmrah hoti rehi... kia faida aise imam ka jo ummat k liye kuch na ker saka....or saber kerta reha...

Bahr ul anwar me shio ki aik riwayat he imam hussain se....k jo shaks zulm ko hota huwa dekhey or usko rokne k liye kuch na kero tu lazim he k usko zalim k sath ag me phenk do...

ab is hadees me tu imam bhi agaye coz unho ne kuch nahi kia...

Junoon Aap Kuch Bhee Kar Lo Unhonay Nahe Mana Hanse Aate Ha Un ke Batoon Par Kia Kia Bolty Han .. Sirf Ek Baat Janta Hun .... Dunya Ka Sub Saa Badtareen Mahab Shia Mazhab Ha ...

Unko Unke Books Ka Hawala Deya Pir Bhee Yaqeen nahe Kar Rahe Pahlly Apne Books Ko Parho Pir Baat Karo Maloon Majlesi Ke Book Parh Kar Tou Un Ka Eman Bana Ha ....

Junoon Aap Na Jo Riwayat Payish Ke Ha Ub Aap Dakhna Asaa Funny Answer Daan Ga Aap Unke Baat Ko Parh Kar Hanso ga Or Socho Ga Ya bol Kia Raha Ha ..Ub Aap Dakhna Es Baat Ko Ub Ya Kahan Saa Kahan Laay Kar Jayan Ga Kabhee Ek Topic Par Rah He Nahe Sakty Sawal Ka Jawab Nahe Daan Ga Balkay Sawal Par Sawal Karan Ga Or Topic Saa Haat Jayan Ga ..

Ya Shia Bhee Totay Ke Tarhan Hotay Han Jo Unko Ratao Ga Wahe Bolan Ga ....

Janab yehi baat mein aap k liye bhi keh sakta hoon kiun k mein ne aap ko aap hi ki books se ref. diye k hazrat umar ne ghar jalaya aur Bibi a.s per zulm kiya aur hazrat abu bakar ka akhri waqt per pachtana bhi aap hi ki books se sabit kiya magar aap ki aankhon per to qatilon ki mohabbat ki ainak cherhi hui hai jis se aap ko haq o sach nazar hi nahi aata...
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bahi ye bat tu aqal tasleem nahi kerti or insan apne hath se likhi hoi kitabo per kese yaqen ker le...

Janab aap haq ko aqal se toltay hain ?? aqal to yeh bhi tasleem nahi kerti k Rasool Allah saww chand lamhon mein asmaan se ho ker wapas aa gaye....Dosri baat jo aap ne baat ki yehi tana mawiya ne Hazrat Ali a.s ko ko diya tha...jis ka jawab Mola Ali a.s ne diya tha k Khuda ka shukar hai k aik dushman bhi mujhay mazloom keh raha hai na k zalim aur Allah k haan mazloom ki qadar hai na k zalim ki :laugh:
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tUMARI HI kATIBION SAAY THUMARAY JOHATAY DHAWION KA JAWAB.................Molahaz ho.....wacko.gif

http://islamic-forum...showtopic=12792

Aray janab aap loagon ne kab se tahir ul qadri ko maanana shuru ker diya ?? aap ko aik muhawara sunata hoon Zaroorat K Waqt Gadhay Ko Bhi Baap Bunana Aaaj aap ne iss muhawara ko sach sabit ker diya kiun k kal tak aap iss ko tahir ul padri kehtay thay aur kafir kehtay thay aur aaj uss per hi yaqeen ker rahay hain aur dosri baat tahir ul qadri shia nahi hai jo aap mujhay uss ki baat bata rahay hain aur dosri baat kiya aap ne iss ki woh video,s sunein jo woh majlis mein baatein kerta hai ?? Agar aap woh sun lein to aap hairat se foar hi ho jaein Aur janab aap ne meray quote kiye huay ref. ka jawab nahi diya,fatwa hi de do k yeh sab jhoot hai :laugh:

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bahi ye bat tu aqal tasleem nahi kerti or insan apne hath se likhi hoi kitabo per kese yaqen ker le...

Janab aap haq ko aqal se toltay hain ?? aqal to yeh bhi tasleem nahi kerti k Rasool Allah saww chand lamhon mein asmaan se ho ker wapas aa gaye....Dosri baat jo aap ne baat ki yehi tana mawiya ne Hazrat Ali a.s ko ko diya tha...jis ka jawab Mola Ali a.s ne diya tha k Khuda ka shukar hai k aik dushman bhi mujhay mazloom keh raha hai na k zalim aur Allah k haan mazloom ki qadar hai na k zalim ki :laugh:

Allah hu Akbar..... ye tu wohi bat ho gaye....bat tu sach he per he ruswai ki ....usne ros taylor ki terah meri petai ki...

yar miraj ka waqia tu quran me he mgr afsoos ag wala waqia quran me nahi.....wese kisi ko mazloom kehna tana nahi balke humderdi hoti he.. tana tab dia jata he jab koi ye kehey wese tu bara bahadur bana phirta he bv ko bacha nahi saka...

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Shia hazrat kehtey hain k Haaazret Fatima r.a ko Hazret Umer r.a ne shaheed kia tha iss main kitni haqeeqet ha or kitna jhoot ha plz prove wid Refrences

Bhai jaisa k yahan per kuch members aap ko jhooti tasalian de rahay hain k yeh sab jhoot hai aisa koi waqiya hua hi nahi,iss k liye phir mein aap ko ahl sunnah ki books k scan pages dikhata hoon jis mein yeh waqiya mojood hai...

http://referenceliba...albumid=7125371

http://referenceliba...albumid=6826845

Aur ab mein aap ko woh pages dikhaon ga jis mein likha hai k hazrat abu bakar ne aakhri waqt mein kaha k kash mein Hazrat Fatima a.s k ghar ka darwaza tornay ki ijazat na deta khua woh jang k liye hi kun na bund kiya hota...

http://referenceliba...albumid=7912387

Yeh loag kitni books ko jhoota kahein ge ?? aur kon kon se riwayat ko ghalat kahein ge ??

tUMARI HI kATIBION SAAY THUMARAY JOHATAY DHAWION KA JAWAB.................Molahaz ho.....wacko.gif

http://islamic-forum...showtopic=12792

wah wah deobundi tahir ul qadri pe kub se iman le ai kia ye references kisi deobundi alim ne apni taqreer me ya kitab me nahi likhe the jo ap ko dar e qadri pe jana par gaya lolzzzzzzz

Please dont try to creat a divisions in between sunni ok... be carefull...that u shia wants that sunni keep on fighting with each other.. but this will not happen inshahallah although we have some internal diferences but we all have a clear stance against shias...ap tu iman rakhti hena tahir ul qadri pe kam az kam ap hi yaqeen ker len un pe...

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Koi Bhee Ensan En Shia Par Parda Uthay Ga Wo Ghalt HoGa Tahir ul Qadri Na Buhat Mou Tor Jawab Deya Ha Es Leya Aag Lage Hoe Ha ..

Pahlly Jab Parda Nahe Uthaya Thaa Ya Hee Shia Tahir Ul Qadri Ko Sahe Samjhty Thaa Aaj Jab Parda Uthaya Tou Sahe Nahe Samjhty...

Dunya Ka Sub Saay Baadtareen Mahzab Shia Mazhab Ha ...

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Koi Bhee Ensan En Shia Par Parda Uthay Ga Wo Ghalt HoGa Tahir ul Qadri Na Buhat Mou Tor Jawab Deya Ha Es Leya Aag Lage Hoe Ha ..

Pahlly Jab Parda Nahe Uthaya Thaa Ya Hee Shia Tahir Ul Qadri Ko Sahe Samjhty Thaa Aaj Jab Parda Uthaya Tou Sahe Nahe Samjhty...

Dunya Ka Sub Saay Baadtareen Mahzab Shia Mazhab Ha ...

buddy it has a huge impact on shia..wo kehtey hena k gur me zher mila ker dia he tahir ul qadri sb ne shia ko jo inse nigla nahi ja reha or thook ye sakte nahi..... you are absolutely right.. bas yar mujhey dukh hota he jab hum apas me lertey hen... humara dushman sirf or sirf shia he or yeh humey apas me lera ker mar rehey hen....

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