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Salam,
this is the 2nd time i am creating this topic bcoz some one had deleted my topic last night.

i am invited by some one called on youtube (TheRealTeam4)

so if u cant talk then dont invite us.

Sahih Mulsim
My ummah will be divided into seventy three sects. All of them will be in the Fire except one

(Abi Dawud,)
The Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) said: "Seventy-two (of the 73 sects of the Muslim nation) will be in the fire, and only one will be in Paradise; it is the Jama'ah (i.e. Ahle Sunnah Wa Jamaah)."

So i want to know which one you belong ?

[color="#FF0000"][b]QURAN (017.081)

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Walaikum Salam,

I don't know who deleted your topic.

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Its clearly not referring to the mushrikeen rafidha worshipping Ali r.a and al-hussain r.a. People outside islam cannot be the saved group, its very illogical of you to claim such status.
The saved group are the ones who follow Prophet Muhammad (sallahu aleyhi wa aalihi wasalam), his family, his sahaba and the tabi'een. Edited by Lover_of_Sahaba
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Salam

well from this hadith it is clear that only one sect will go to JANNAH.

so if u r sunni there r 4 sects in sunni,
1- hanfi
2- shafi
3- malaki
4- hanbal.

in these only one will go in jannah not all.

My next question..

How many KALAIFA, AMIR, RULER u have ?

[color="#FF0000"][b]QURAN (017.081)

The truth has come and the falsehood has vanished; surely falsehood is a vanishing (thing). [/b][/color] Edited by Agha Ali
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[quote name='Agha Ali' timestamp='1342966888' post='118879']
Salam

well from this hadith it is clear that only one sect will go to JANNAH.

so if u r sunni there r 4 sects in sunni,
1- hanfi
2- shafi
3- malaki
4- hanbal.

in these only one will go in jannah not all.

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Wsalam brother,

It seems you lack basic knowledge brother, because sect means FIRQ, whereas hanafi, shafi, malaki, hanbali are madhabs not firqas. So its like comparing apples with oranges.

I advice you to acquire basic knowledge prior to entering discussions with people.


[b]surely falsehood is a vanishing......[/b]
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[quote name='Agha Ali' timestamp='1342966888' post='118879']
Salam

My next question..

How many KALAIFA, AMIR, RULER u have ?

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Walaikum Salam brother Agha Ali,

It is hard to count.
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@ Sunni Researcher and Writer

Well if hanfi shafi maliki r not sect its madhabs still they have difference views so which one is on true path ?

and i have noticed in TV that they always say firqa hanfi kai mutabiq azan ka waqt howa chata hay.. ill confirm it tonight and will let u know abt this after watching TV :)


one more thing.. again which SECT U belong then ? may i know plz

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NO one ans my 2nd question

how many kalifa, ruler, amir, u have ?

[color="#FF0000"][b]QURAN (017.081)

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@ swords_of_sunnah

u said hanfi shafi maliki hanbali r not firqa

watch this video where Ahl Sunnat's ( Dr Tahir Qadri Says he belong to firqa hanfi ) so from ur that point it means he also has lack or knowledge ? :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ct9O8HvhJQ

watch the timing from ( 10 mins to 15 mins ) where he says he belong to firq hanfi

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My brother your this point is busted by ur own shaik that these 4 r not firqa :)

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[quote name='Agha Ali' timestamp='1343054332' post='118957']
@ Sunni Researcher and Writer

Well if hanfi shafi maliki r not sect its madhabs still they have difference views so which one is on true path ?

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Which Shia [i]Marja[/i] is the on the true path: Sistani or Khoe or Khamenei or Rohaani ?


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NO one ans my 2nd question

how many kalifa, ruler, amir, u have ?

[/quote]

I already answered you. I said it is hard to count the rulers. They are many.
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hanfi shafi all these madhabs they differ in sunnah interpretations, not in belief, correct me if am wrong. I mean like rafa a dhain, azan timings, shaikh tahir-ul qadri is not ultimate authority to decide , rather i doubt about his beliefs at one point he says prophet and allah is one n one who rejects is kaffir n mushrik (astaghfiruallah.)

Religion was perfected in the life time of beloved prophet saw, perfection simply means no more addition or subtraction required, religion which was started in the begining(adam as) it was perfected on the hands prophet muhammad saw. If still Allah appointed guides were required then its not perfection.

How many rulers: thr is no count.

Better think to increase ur iman, month of ramadan is here make benefits, make as much dua to Allah swt, fast pray,ask Allah for his guidance, surely Allah helps those who sincerely ask for it.
May allah accept our efforts of fasting and praying. Ameen
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[quote name='Agha Ali' timestamp='1343054332' post='118957']
@ Sunni Researcher and Writer

Well if hanfi shafi maliki r not sect its madhabs still they have difference views so which one is on true path ?

and i have noticed in TV that they always say firqa hanfi kai mutabiq azan ka waqt howa chata hay.. ill confirm it tonight and will let u know abt this after watching TV :)


one more thing.. again which SECT U belong then ? may i know plz

[/quote]

[b]Madhab[/b] is an Islamic “School of Thought” on fiqh (religious jurisprudence) named after its founder (Imam). This jurisprudence, which broadly covers almost all walks of life, is solely based on the life model (Sunnah) of Prophet Muhammad, and hence can be considered as a "religious constitution" codified by each of these Imams. (This can also be somewhat compared to the gospels about Jesus in New Testament). Imams claimed that they were only following the model of the Prophet to the best of their knowledge and belief, never claimed infallibility for themselves and insisted that one should always prefer better knowledge over their own if any. Hence it is important to observe that Madhabs [b]DO NOT REPRESENT SECTS[/b], rather "[b][i]schools of thoughts[/i][/b]".

These are the basics, i feel a pity that you still try to back your ignorance.
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[quote name='AbuMuslimKhorasani' timestamp='1343060303' post='118966']
[quote name='Agha Ali' timestamp='1343054332' post='118957']
@ Sunni Researcher and Writer

Well if hanfi shafi maliki r not sect its madhabs still they have difference views so which one is on true path ?

[/quote]

Which Shia [i]Marja[/i] is the on the true path: Sistani or Khoe or Khamenei or Rohaani ?


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NO one ans my 2nd question

how many kalifa, ruler, amir, u have ?

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I already answered you. I said it is hard to count the rulers. They are many.
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i am talking abt sect and all of them which u quoted the name follow 14 MASOMEEN and r SHIA :)

and so u dont know the name of ur KALIFA and dont know how many kalifa u have ?

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[quote name='Dihyah_Kalbi' timestamp='1343073528' post='118974']
hanfi shafi all these madhabs they differ in sunnah interpretations, not in belief, correct me if am wrong. I mean like rafa a dhain, azan timings, shaikh tahir-ul qadri is not ultimate authority to decide , rather i doubt about his beliefs at one point he says prophet and allah is one n one who rejects is kaffir n mushrik (astaghfiruallah.)

Religion was perfected in the life time of beloved prophet saw, perfection simply means no more addition or subtraction required, religion which was started in the begining(adam as) it was perfected on the hands prophet muhammad saw. If still Allah appointed guides were required then its not perfection.

How many rulers: thr is no count.

Better think to increase ur iman, month of ramadan is here make benefits, make as much dua to Allah swt, fast pray,ask Allah for his guidance, surely Allah helps those who sincerely ask for it.
May allah accept our efforts of fasting and praying. Ameen
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so u r trying to say that SHAIK UL ISLAM DR TAHIR QADRI dont know abt it and u have more knowledge abt i ?
look at the video in that he clearly said he belong to HANFI FIQA

and u now u r coming on the point. he is barailwi in hanfi so it means u r not barailwi. thats y u dont accept his quotes and u have doubt on him.

[color="#FF0000"][b]QURAN (017.081)

The truth has come and the falsehood has vanished; surely falsehood is a vanishing (thing).[/b][/color] Edited by Agha Ali
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[quote name='swords_of_sunnah' timestamp='1343085426' post='118988']
[quote name='Agha Ali' timestamp='1343054332' post='118957']
@ Sunni Researcher and Writer

Well if hanfi shafi maliki r not sect its madhabs still they have difference views so which one is on true path ?

and i have noticed in TV that they always say firqa hanfi kai mutabiq azan ka waqt howa chata hay.. ill confirm it tonight and will let u know abt this after watching TV :)


one more thing.. again which SECT U belong then ? may i know plz

[/quote]

[b]Madhab[/b] is an Islamic “School of Thought” on fiqh (religious jurisprudence) named after its founder (Imam). This jurisprudence, which broadly covers almost all walks of life, is solely based on the life model (Sunnah) of Prophet Muhammad, and hence can be considered as a "religious constitution" codified by each of these Imams. (This can also be somewhat compared to the gospels about Jesus in New Testament). Imams claimed that they were only following the model of the Prophet to the best of their knowledge and belief, never claimed infallibility for themselves and insisted that one should always prefer better knowledge over their own if any. Hence it is important to observe that Madhabs [b]DO NOT REPRESENT SECTS[/b], rather "[b][i]schools of thoughts[/i][/b]".

These are the basics, i feel a pity that you still try to back your ignorance.
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Same question which i asked them asking u again

Dr Qadri said he belong to FIQA HANFI. so tell me u have more knowledge or him ?

and go and watch TV there is clearly written

FIQA HANFI sehri and iftar time and FIQA JAFRI timings :)

so now dont act like kids that they r wrong and u r correct or say directly like that guy he has doubt on dr qadri :)


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[quote name='Agha Ali' timestamp='1343140431' post='119076']
i am talking abt sect and all of them which u quoted the name follow 14 MASOMEEN and r SHIA :)

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Similarly all of those that you quoted (Hanafi, Shafi,Maliki, Hanbali) follow the Quran and Sunnah and belong to AhluSunnah wal-jama'ah (People of traditions and community).

[quote]and so u dont know the name of ur KALIFA and dont know how many kalifa u have ?----------------
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[b]The truth has come and the falsehood has vanished; surely falsehood is a vanishing (thing). [/b][/quote]


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