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Who Was Julaybib?

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This is what i found....

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[size=3]Julaybib is known as a martyr and one of the less known companions of Prophet(s). His name was acquired prior to his acceptance of Islam and is considered unusual and incomplete. In the Arabic language Julaybib means "small grown" being the diminutive form of the word jalbab, indicating that Julaybib was small and short, even dwarf-like. He was also described as being damim, meaning ugly, deformed, or repulsive.[/size]
[size=3]Julaybib's lineage was unknown and there is no record of his parents or what tribe he belonged to. All that was known of him was that he was an Arab and that he was one of the Ansar in Medina.[/size]
[size=3]With Julaybib in mind, Muhammad went to an Ansari man and said: "I want to have your daughter married." "How wonderful and blessed, Oh Messenger of God and what a delight to the eye (this would be)," he replied. "I do not want her for myself," added Muhammad. "Then for whom, Oh Messenger of God?" asked the man, obviously disappointed. "For Julaybib," said Muhammad. The Ansari went to consult with his wife, telling her of Muhammad's desire for their daughter to marry Julaybib. His wife was repulsed, and protested saying "To Julaybib! No, never to Julaybib! No, by God, we shall not marry (her) to him."[/size]
[size=3]While the Ansari was preparing to inform Muhammad of what his wife said, the daughter hearing her mother's protestations, asked: "Who has asked you to marry me?"[/size]
[size=3]Her mother communicated the proposal for her to marry Julaybib. Upon learning that the request had come from Muhammad and that her mother opposed the idea, she was immensely perturbed and retorted: "Do you refuse the request of the Messenger of Allah? Send me to him for he shall certainly not bring ruin to me."[/size]
[size=3]She was married by Muhammad to Julaybib and they lived together until he was killed.[/size]
[size=3]Julaybib participated in an expedition with Muhammad in which an encounter with some polytheists ensued. When the battle concluded, Muhammad asked his companions: "Have you lost anyone?" They replied giving the names of relatives or close friends who were killed. Another group answered that they had lost no close relatives whereupon Muhammad said, "But I have lost Julaybib. Search for him in the battlefield." They searched and found him beside seven enemies whom he had killed before meeting his end. Muhammad went to the spot where Julaybib lay and standing over him he said, "He killed seven and then was killed? This [man] is of me and I am of him." from Wikipedia[/size][/quote]

the summary of the above is :
1-Companion of Prophet(s)
2-Name acquired prior to his acceptance of Islam...
3-lineage UNKNOWN
4-Married to an UNKNOWN ansari girl of an UNKNOWN ansari man
5-Participated in an UNKNOWN ghazwa
6-Killed 7 UNKNOWN men
7-Martyred by an UNKNOWN man
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ANYTHING else about him? with references- Please...
After All, he is a Companion of the Prophet(s).. Edited by goharjanjua
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[quote]ANYTHING else about him? with references- Please...
After All, he is a Companion of the Prophet(s)..[/quote]

Apparently, that is all we know about the man. Of course, the Prophet (pbuh) had over a hundred thousand companions, so, it isn't like we have much information about all of them. Either way, we do know more about the life of Julaibeeb than Ibrahim bin Hashim Al-Qummi, the biggest narrator in Shi'ee history. So, perhaps you could expand on the reasons as to why the latter is unknown despite being such a big narrator.
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this isnt about a sahabi vs a narrator !!
dont change the topic
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There are a LOT of hadith wherein Prophet(s) Changed the names of people if they were bad or awkward....
BUT

[quote]In the Arabic language Julaybib means "small grown" being the diminutive form of the word jalbab, indicating that Julaybib was small and short, even dwarf-like. He was also described as being damim, meaning ugly, deformed, or repulsive.[/quote]

here he didn't ??
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[quote]
this isnt about a sahabi vs a narrator !!
dont change the topic[/quote]

Indeed. I'm not aware of Julaibeeb narrating any hadiths, which is why your assumptions about the man aren't the slightest bit of a problem since he isn't a source of the [i]shari'ah[/i].

[quote]There are a LOT of hadith wherein Prophet(s) Changed the names of people if they were bad or awkward....[/quote]

Really? So, the man didn't exist because there is no hadith that the Prophet (pbuh) changed his name? =)
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I guess people such as abu Barzah al-Aslami (ra) and Anas ibn Malik (ra) are also imaginary since they narrated these events as eye witnesses.
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[quote name='Farid' timestamp='1362047508' post='132628']
Really? So, the man didn't exist because there is no hadith that the Prophet (pbuh) changed his name? =)[/quote]

No, im questioning him because:
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]=>>> lineage UNKNOWN[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]=>>> Married to an UNKNOWN ansari girl of an UNKNOWN ansari man[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]=>>> Participated in an UNKNOWN ghazwa[/font][/color]
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[quote name='Hani' timestamp='1362047906' post='132631']
I guess people such as abu Barzah al-Aslami (ra) and Anas ibn Malik (ra) are also imaginary since they narrated these events as eye witnesses.
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So, which expedition was it? where?
did abu Barzah al-Aslami (ra) and Anas ibn Malik (ra) mention that?
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[quote name='goharjanjua' timestamp='1362048161' post='132633']
So, which expedition was it? where?
did abu Barzah al-Aslami (ra) and Anas ibn Malik (ra) mention that?[/quote]

Not mentioned :)
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This thread should have been moved to the "General Islam" section.
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^ I think the Islamic Quiz section would be more suitable.
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[quote name='Farid' timestamp='1362045743' post='132624']
Apparently, that is all we know about the man. Of course, the Prophet (pbuh) had over a hundred thousand companions, so, it isn't like we have much information about all of them. [color=#ff0000][size=4][b]Either way, we do know more about the life of Julaibeeb than Ibrahim bin Hashim Al-Qummi, the biggest narrator in Shi'ee history. So, perhaps you could expand on the reasons as to why the latter is unknown despite being such a big narrator.[/b][/size][/color][/quote]

How can this thing go unanswered ... Well, there is very little we know about Julaib R.A as brothers here mentioned that ... It causes us no harm since he doesn't narrate any shariah stuff ....

You got your answer Gohar, can you explain what information we have about Ibrahin bin Hisham Al-Qummi, the one from whom you take better part of your religion?

I was surprised why has this important query from Bro farid went unanswered?
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[quote name='Ali Muaawiah' timestamp='1362210380' post='132830']
I was surprised why has this important query from Bro farid went unanswered?
[/quote]

Simple . . Because it was irrelevant to the OP....
Be it AbuHurayra or Ibrahim Qummi ... Both aren't related to the topic . .
I heard Julabib's name for the first time and asked it just out of curiosity . .
:-)
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Brother, the vast majority of the companions of the Imams are less known than Julaibeeb. I don't see why you'd bring this up.
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[quote name='goharjanjua' timestamp='1362211806' post='132832']
Simple . . Because it was irrelevant to the OP....
Be it AbuHurayra or Ibrahim Qummi ... Both aren't related to the topic . .
I heard Julabib's name for the first time and asked it just out of curiosity . .
:-)[/quote]

Fair enough!

You have your curosity answered ... But I am a little curious now to know that is true that Life of Ibrahim Qummi is even less known to us than Julaib R.A life?
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