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Collecting proofs of false books and scholars attributed to Ahlesunnah

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Salamalaikum Ikhwan,

I remember we had several threads, where in we discussed books which were falsely attributed to Sunni scholars, OR Scholars who were falsely attributed to Ahlesunnah. I found it difficult to locate those. Its not good that those researches go lost. I thought to gather them in an article so that, it would be helpful for people and easily accessible.

[b][size=5]So brothers(esp Jhangvi), if you could locate those thread and search them(if you remember key words) then that would be really wonderful.[/size][/b] Edited by swords_of_sunnah
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[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=5][center]Ibn Abi al-Hadid Mutazili (commenter of Nahj al-Balagha) was he Shia or Sunni ?[/center][/size][/font][/color]
[url="http://islamic-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=13735&hl="]http://islamic-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=13735&hl=[/url]
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[b]SIBT IBN JAWZI THE RAFIZI[/b]


[color=#707070][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][font='Droid Sans', ', Verdana, sans-serif} '][size=3][size=4]Here is some short information regarding this shia author.[/size][/size][/font][/font][/color]
[color=#707070][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][font='Droid Sans', ', Verdana, sans-serif} '][size=3][size=4]Sibt ibn Al-Jawzi was a Rafidhi according to Dhahabi’s Meezan Al-E’itidal…
9880[b] – [/b]يوسف بن قزغلى الواعظ المؤرخ شمس الدين، أبو المظفر، سبط ابن الجوزى[b]. [/b]روى عن جده وطائفة، وألف كتاب مرآة الزمان، فتراه يأتي فيه بمناكير الحكايات، وما أظنه بثقة فيما ينقله، بل يجنف ويجازف، ثم إنه ترفض[b]. [/b]وله مؤلف في ذلك[b]. [/b]نسأل الله العافية[b].[/b]مات سنة أربع وخمسين وستمائة بدمشق[b]. (2 [ [/b]قال الشيخ محيى الدين السوسى[b]: [/b]لما بلغ جدى موت سبط ابن الجوزى قال[b]: [/b]لا رحمه الله، كان رافضيا[b]. [/b]قلت[b]: [/b]كان بارعا في الوعظ ومدرسا للحنفية [b]] 2).
[url="http://www.yasoob.com/books/htm1/m021/26/no2641.html"](online link)[/url][/b][/size][/size][/font][/font][/color]
[color=#707070][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][font='Droid Sans', ', Verdana, sans-serif} '][size=3][size=4]Al-Dhahabi said: “ He has authored (Miraat Al-Zaman) and included very odd narrations in it (manakir). I do not think he is thiqqa in things he reports rather he exaggerates and goes aside. He then converted to Rafidism , and authored a book to this effect. Shiekh Muhiydin said: When the news of Sibt Ibn Al-Jawzi’s death reached my grandfather, he said: “ May Allah not have mercy on him. He was a Rafidi”[/size][/size][/font][/font][/color]
[color=#707070][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][font='Droid Sans', ', Verdana, sans-serif} '][size=3][size=4]Sibt Ibn Al-Jawzi (581H – 654H) [As-Siyar (23/296), Meezan Al-E’itedal (4/471): Yusuf bin Quzghuli, Abul Muzaffar Sibt Ibn Al-Jawzi Al-Hanafi. Grandson of Imam Abul Faraj Ibn Al-Jawzi. Scholar, Historian, famous for his speech. He was Hanbali but later on became Hanafi for worldly cause. He authored the history book “Mir’aatuz Zamaan” and tafseer “Ma’adin Al-Ibreez” in 29 volumes and several other books. He also authored a book “Tadhkirah Al-Khawwas” in which he talks about great scholars of Ahlul Bayt and Imams of shia sect. He had shi’ism in him as indicated by Imam Dhahabi and his book “Tadhkirat Al-Khawwas Al-Ummah” is also a proof for that wherein he talks bad about some companions and goes into extreme with regard to Ahlul Bayt. Also he was quite irresponsible in his history book, as indicated by Imam Dhahabi at several place in his “As-Siyar” and “Tarikh Al-Islam”.[/size][/size][/font][/font][/color]
[color=#707070][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][font='Droid Sans', ', Verdana, sans-serif} '][size=3][size=4]We would like to provide one example from the book of this rafidi which will leave no doubt in the mind of readers that this person was a Shia Rafidi.[/size][/size][/font][/font][/color]
[color=#707070][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][font='Droid Sans', ', Verdana, sans-serif} '][size=3][size=4]At page 321 of Tadhkira al khawas , Sibt ibn Jawzi makes tabarra on Umar(ra) and even insults his mother. Here are the Scan pages from his book.[b]([/b][url="http://youpuncturedtheark.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/sibt-jawzi-tabbara-umar-tazkara-al-khawas-pg321.jpg"][b]SCAN PAGE)[/b][/url].This leaves no doubt that Sibt ibn Jawzi was a Rafidi as stated by scholars of Ahlesunnah.[/size][/size][/font][/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font][/color]
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[b] Ibn A`tham al-Kūfī and his Tārīkh[/b]

[url="http://www.sunnidefense.com/exp/content/23-ibn-atham-al-k%C5%ABf%C4%AB-and-his-t%C4%81r%C4%ABkh"]http://www.sunnidefe...-and-his-tārīkh[/url]


[b] Citing Waq`at Şiffīn as a Sunnī Text[/b]

[url="http://www.sunnidefense.com/exp/content/21-citing-waqat-%C5%9Fiff%C4%ABn-sunn%C4%AB-text"]http://www.sunnidefense.com/exp/content/21-citing-waqat-%C5%9Fiff%C4%ABn-sunn%C4%AB-text[/url]



[b] The Misattribution of Maqātil al-Ţālibiyyīn[/b]

[url="http://www.sunnidefense.com/exp/content/14-misattribution-maq%C4%81til-al-%C5%A3%C4%81libiyy%C4%ABn"]http://www.sunnidefense.com/exp/content/14-misattribution-maq%C4%81til-al-%C5%A3%C4%81libiyy%C4%ABn[/url]


[b] Was Abū Rayya an “Imam of Ahl'ul Sunnah”?[/b]

[url="http://www.sunnidefense.com/exp/content/10-was-ab%C5%AB-rayya-%E2%80%9Cimam-ahlul-sunnah%E2%80%9D"]http://www.sunnidefense.com/exp/content/10-was-ab%C5%AB-rayya-%E2%80%9Cimam-ahlul-sunnah%E2%80%9D[/url]


[b] Asad Ĥaydar a Sunnī Scholar?[/b]

[url="http://www.sunnidefense.com/exp/content/2-asad-%C4%A5aydar-sunn%C4%AB-scholar"]http://www.sunnidefense.com/exp/content/2-asad-%C4%A5aydar-sunn%C4%AB-scholar[/url] Edited by swords_of_sunnah
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There is a book written by Molana Muhammad Ali and it is named as "Meezan ul Kutab". It is a wonderful book on this topic and it is available on this forum.


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[b] WAHEED UZ ZAMAH: THE SHIA:[/b]


[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhBn3IXYJe4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhBn3IXYJe4[/url]


[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtVC0dwreVk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtVC0dwreVk[/url]
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Brother Swords of Sunnah, Plz include the contents which refute the allegations made by Moulana Moudodi in his very infamous book "Khilafat-wo-Malokiat". Most often Shias point those false allegations (by declaring it a Sunni Book) which accuse Hz. Uthman and Hz. Ameer Moawia :RA Anhum: in various topics found in this book. These allegation refuted many times in this forum and outside, but I want a direct link which clearly mention the falsehood of this book. Like Ibn Hadeed or Sibt Al Jouzi books. I have posted an article for refutation of above mentioned book, but it is in Urdu. I think there is also a solid refutation may exist in our English Sub forum, specific for this book. Thanx!
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Brother, the purpose of this thread is to gather, those books which were falsely attributed to Sunni scholars and Also those scholars who were falsely attributed to Ahlesunnah. This is the sole purpose of this thread. So it doesn't cover what you claim for. Sorry.
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OK brother U r right. But there may also a thread exist for refutation for this book in English, coz so many rawafidh use the contents of this book, condemn our respected sahaba e kiraam. I can't able to locate these refutation on web or in this forum in English langauge. Plz If you know any, U must share with us. It makes our task little easier. Again thanx!
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[size=4][color=#444444][font=Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]Muhammad Ibn Al-Hussan Ibn Abdul Samad who is known as Shiekh Bahai (d. 1031) said: “I was in Syria appearing to be a Shafii”. This confession by this under cover Shia was reported by Muhammad Muhammadi Ashtihardi in his book “Ajwad Al-Munatharat” (1/188)[/font][/color][/size]

[size=4][color=#444444][font=Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]In this post I will try to point out some such books and authors that are falsely ascribed to Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jamaa’:[/font][/color][/size]

[size=4][color=#444444][font=Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif](1) Al-Kanji Al-Shafii:
The editor of his book: “ Al-Bayan fee Akhbar Sahib Al-Zaman”, who is also a Shiite, said: “ I have not come across a complete biography of Hafidh Al-Kanji Al-Shafi, for he has been ignored by many of his contemporary historians such as Ibn Khilikan in (Wafiyat Al-Ayan) , Abu Shama in (Al-Dhayl ala Al-Rawdatayn) , Al-Yunini in (Mira’at Al-Zaman) , Al-Dhahabi in (Tathkirat Al-Hufadh).”He also said: “ Historians mentioned that Hafidh Al-Kanji was killed in the year 658 , in the Ummayad Jami in Damascus , on the hands of the public who were antagonized by his reclining to Shia. Some others have added another reason for his murder, being that he used to deal with the Tatar and accepted a position that they gave to him as well as the money (molested) from those who were absent from his country.”Ibn Katheer, in Al-Bidaya wal Nihaya, clearly identifies him as a Rafidi: “ In the middle of the Jami, the public killed a Rafidi Shiekh who was helping Tatar over the money of people called Al-Fakhr Muhammad Ibn Yusuf Ibn Muhammad Al-Kanji. He had evil intentions , and was from the East , helping them over the money of Muslims. May Allah disparage him. And they killed a group of hypocrites of his likes, so an end was put to those who transgressed. Al-Hamdullilah”[/font][/color][/size]

[size=4][color=#444444][font=Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif](2) Ibn Abi Al-Hadid:
The author of “Rawdat Al-Jannat” (5/19) referred to him as: “ He is loyal to people of the Household of infallibility and purity (Ahlul Bayt Al-Isma’ wal Tahara) even though he used to appear in the costume of Ahlul Sunnah”In “Al-Kunna wal Al-Alqab”, Al-Qumi outlines the staunch and fanatic Shiite background of Ibn Abi Al-Hadid in Al-Madain and then when he moved to Baghdad his fanaticism reduced and was inclined to Mutazilla.[/font][/color][/size]

[size=4][color=#444444][font=Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif](3) Sulayman Ibn Muhammad Al-Qunduzi Al-Hanafi:He is the author of Yanabi’ Al-Mawada. Aga Buzurg Tehrani included his book “Al-Thareea” , which is an Encyclopedia on Shia books. He said [25/290] : “ Even though the Shiasm of the author is not known, but he is Gnostic, and the Book is considered to be one of the books of Shia”[/font][/color][/size]

[size=4][color=#444444][font=Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif](4) Ibrahim Ibn Muhammad Al-Juwaini (also called Al-Hamweeni):
He is the author of “Faraid Al-Simtayn” He has been included in the book “Ayan Al-Shia” , an Encyclodia of Shia prominent figures, by Al-Ameen Al-Amili. Aga Buzurgh Tehrani, in “Thayl Kashf Al-Dhunoon” p. 70, pointed out that the chief of the Mongols, Ghazan, embrassed Islam through him and became a Shiite, and also his brother Shah Khudabanda who made his Shiasm apparent.Amongst the sheikhs that he was taught by, are Ibn Al-Muttahir Al-Hili and Khawaja Nusair Al-Din Al-Tusi. These are two prominent 12er figures.[/font][/color][/size]

[size=4][color=#444444][font=Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif](5) Yusuf Fargali, known as the grandson of (Sibt) Ibn Al_Jawzi:
He is the author of (Miraat Al-Zaman). Al-Dhahabi said: “ He has authored (Miraat Al-Zaman) and included very odd narrations in it (manakir). I do not think he is thiqqa in things he reports rather he exaggerates and goes aside. He then converted to Rafidism , and authored a book to this effect. Shiekh Muhiydin said: When the news of Sibt Ibn Al-Jawzi’s death reached my grandfather, he said: “ May Allah not have mercy on him. He was a Rafidi”[/font][/color][/size]

[size=4][color=#444444][font=Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif](6) Nur Al-Din Ali Ibn Muhammad Ibn Al-Sabagh.
Author of “Al-Fusool Al-Muhima”.His book is included in “Al-Dhareea” [16/246]. Tehrani said: “In the treatise “Shia Shiekhs” he is considered one of them, even though he is one of the great Malikis, this is why in “Kashf Al-Dhunoon” he said: “Some of them attributed the author to Rafidism for what he mentioned in his introduction / khutba.”[/font][/color][/size] Edited by swords_of_sunnah
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Al-Masoudi Sahib Murouj al-Dhahab was a shia

[url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Masudi"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Masudi[/url]

[b] [size=4]"Imamah wa Siyasah" wrongfully attributed to Ibn Qutaybah :RehmatullahAlyhi:[/size][size=4] [/size][/b]


[url="http://islamic-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=16843"][size=4]http://islamic-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=16843[/size][/url]
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[b] Masoode author of “Muruj az-zahab” was shia[/b]
[url="http://gift2shias.com/2010/07/28/masoode-author-of-muruj-azzahab-was-shia/"]http://gift2shias.co...zahab-was-shia/[/url]




[b] Is the Book “Fara’id al-Samtayn” a sunni book?[/b]
[url="http://gift2shias.com/2010/09/27/is-the-book-faraid-al-samtayn-a-sunni-book/"]http://gift2shias.co...n-a-sunni-book/[/url]



[b] “Maqatil al Talibeen” a Sunni book?[/b]
[url="http://gift2shias.com/2010/09/27/maqatil-al-talibeen-a-sunni-book/"]http://gift2shias.co...n-a-sunni-book/[/url]



[b] Qunduzi and his “Yanabil mawadda”[/b]
[url="http://gift2shias.com/2010/02/15/qunduzi-and-his-yanabil-mawadda/"]http://gift2shias.co...anabil-mawadda/[/url]


[b] A critique of al-Ya`qûbî’s History[/b]
[url="http://gift2shias.com/2009/11/15/a-critique-of-al-yaqubi%E2%80%99s-history/"]http://gift2shias.co...qubi’s-history/[/url]


[b] History of al-Ya`qûbî and Muruj az-zahab of Masoode, Both of them were shias[/b]

[url="http://gift2shias.com/2009/10/18/history-of-al-yaqubi-and-muruj-az-zahab-of-masoode-both-of-them-were-shias/"]http://gift2shias.com/2009/10/18/history-of-al-yaqubi-and-muruj-az-zahab-of-masoode-both-of-them-were-shias/[/url] Edited by swords_of_sunnah
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Salam aleikom,

I wonder why I cannot open a new thread, maybe it's because I do not have a minimum amount of required posts. I wrote something and would like to share it with you and maybe any errors could be spotted in it which could be corrected.

[b]Who received the First ‘wahi [revelation] from Allah ?[/b]

The muslims agree that the first revelation of the Qur’aan was bestowed upon the Prophet (sallalahu aleyhi wasallam). However, the Shi’a who claim to be muslims have stored in their renowned books that it was not the Prophet, but Ali (ra) who received the first revelation of the Qur’an.
This is something to think about. Shi’ism agrees on the idea that Ali (ra) was de first person who recited verses of the Qur’aan. This is an implication that he was the first to receive the revelation.

Let us see what the key difference would be between Shi’ism and the other pagan beliefs such as that of the Alawi / Nusayri’s regarding the first revelation of the Qur’an.

For the sake of being on topic, we will ignore the fairy tales of the miraculous birth of Ali (ra) at the Ka’ba, after which the wall of the ka’ba got ‘’cracked’’ etc. Also, we will ignore the fiction of Shi’ism and Shi’a about Fatimah Zahra (ra) and their claim that she was inside the Ka’ba for three days [in company of 365 idols], after which she came out with the new born baby, Ali.

As we know, Shi’ism teaches that all of their ‘’infallible imams’’ are born circumcised, infallible and know the unseen [Al Kafi, 1:319]. On top of that, Shi’ism teaches that this ‘’superman’’ infallible imam is born out of the thigh (or right leg) of their mothers, and not from their wombs [Majlisi, Kitaab al Ghaybah]. This great Hollywood fairy tale needed to be invented as it is reported that the wife of their 11[sup]th[/sup] imam did not show any signs of pregnancy [Majlisi, Kitaab al Ghaybah]. The laymen amongst the Shi’a are easily fooled by these khums invested businessmen. Let us also ignore the Shi’a belief that their ‘’infallibles’’ could talk immediately after their birth and could even walk and prostrate while proclaiming the testimony of faith [[i]Madinatul Ma’aajiz[/i], 8:22].

Shi’ism teaches that when Ali radiallahu anh was born, one of the first words he spoke were the verses of Surah al Mu’minoon. As we know, Ali was much younger than the Prophet sallalahu aleyhi wasallam. When the Prophet received his very first wahi [revelation] from Allah azzawajal, delivered by the angel Jibril in the cave of Hira, his age was 40 years, while Ali was a small child around[b] 10 years[/b] old.

This draws us near to the main question of this topic, namely: [b]who was the first to receive revelation of the Qur’aan from Allah according to Shi’ism, was it Muhammad sallalahu aleyhi wasallam or Ali radiallahu anh?[/b]

In the Shi’a renowned biography of Ali ra, we read the following testimonies:

The chain:قال ابن شاذان : حدثني إبراهيم بن علي بإسناده عن أبي عبد الله جعفر بن محمد ، عن آبائه عليهم السلام

ثم قال : دخل رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله فلما دخل اهتز له أمير المؤمنين عليه السلام وضحك في وجهه وقال : السلام عليك يا رسول الله ورحمة الله وبركاته ، قال : ثم تنحنح بإذن الله تعالى وقال : ( بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم * قد أفلح المؤمنون * الذينهم في صلاتهم خاشعون ) إلى آخر الآيات فقال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله قد أفلحوا بك ، وقرأ تمام الآيات إلى قوله

[url="http://www.najaf.org/?lang=arabic&tab=ara_link&cat=event&id=e_24"]http://www.najaf.org/?lang=arabic&tab=ara_link&cat=event&id=e_24[/url]

[b]ولد علي (عليه السلام) في اليوم الثالث عشر من رجب سنة ثلاثين من عام الفيل في جوف الكعبة شرفها الله زائريها و لم يولد قبله و لا بعده مولود في بيت الله الحرام سواه كرم الله وجهه عن السجود لأصنامها فكانما كان ميلاده ثمة ايذانا بعهد جديد للكعبة و للعبادة فيها و كاد علي أن يولد مسلما،بل و قد ولد مسلما تحقيقا،و بعد خروجه عن البيت لم يفتح عينيه إلا على رسول الله (صلى الله عليه و آله) و قرأ من سورة المؤمنون: (بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم قد أفلح المؤمنون الذينهم في صلاتهم خاشعون[/b][b])[/b]
[url="http://www.imamalinet.net/ar/ac/acb/acba/acbad/acbad3.htm"]http://www.imamalinet.net/ar/ac/acb/acba/acbad/acbad3.htm[/url]
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[b]ثم دخل رسول الله (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)، فلمّا دخل اهتزّ لـه أمير المؤمنين (عليه السلام) وضحك في وجهه وقال: السلام عليك يا رسول الله ورحمة الله وبركاته.[/b][/indent]
[indent=1][b]قال: ثم تنحنح بإذن الله تعالى وقال: {بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم، قد أفلح المؤمنون، الذين هم في صلاتهم خاشعون} إلى آخر الآيات[/b][/indent]
[url="http://alshirazi.com/compilations/history/omahat_almasomin/5.htm"]http://alshirazi.com/compilations/history/omahat_almasomin/5.htm[/url]

In short, it says that Ali ra was born; he greeted the Prophet, and then started to [u]recite Surah al Mu’minun[/u] [b]قد أفلح المؤمنون، الذين هم في صلاتهم خاشعون[/b] etc.

From this, it is clear that although some Shi’a may disagree with this, Shi’ism teaches and acknowledges this. From the above, it can be concluded that [b]according [u]to Shi’ism[/u][/b], [b]Ali was the first to receive the verses of the Qur’an and NOT the Prophet. [/b]In any case, he was according to Shi'ism the first to utter the Wahi. Which is offcrouse a blatant lie.
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Salam aleikom,I wonder why I cannot open a new thread, maybe it's because I do not have a minimum amount of required posts. I wrote something and would like to share it with you and maybe any errors could be spotted in it which could be corrected.Who received the First ‘wahi [revelation] from Allah ?The muslims agree that the first revelation of the Qur’aan was bestowed upon the Prophet (sallalahu aleyhi wasallam). However, the Shi’a who claim to be muslims have stored in their renowned books that it was not the Prophet, but Ali (ra) who received the first revelation of the Qur’an.This is something to think about. Shi’ism agrees on the idea that Ali (ra) was de first person who recited verses of the Qur’aan. This is an implication that he was the first to receive the revelation.Let us see what the key difference would be between Shi’ism and the other pagan beliefs such as that of the Alawi / Nusayri’s regarding the first revelation of the Qur’an.For the sake of being on topic, we will ignore the fairy tales of the miraculous birth of Ali (ra) at the Ka’ba, after which the wall of the ka’ba got ‘’cracked’’ etc. Also, we will ignore the fiction of Shi’ism and Shi’a about Fatimah Zahra (ra) and their claim that she was inside the Ka’ba for three days [in company of 365 idols], after which she came out with the new born baby, Ali.As we know, Shi’ism teaches that all of their ‘’infallible imams’’ are born circumcised, infallible and know the unseen [Al Kafi, 1:319]. On top of that, Shi’ism teaches that this ‘’superman’’ infallible imam is born out of the thigh (or right leg) of their mothers, and not from their wombs [Majlisi, Kitaab al Ghaybah]. This great Hollywood fairy tale needed to be invented as it is reported that the wife of their 11th imam did not show any signs of pregnancy [Majlisi, Kitaab al Ghaybah]. The laymen amongst the Shi’a are easily fooled by these khums invested businessmen. Let us also ignore the Shi’a belief that their ‘’infallibles’’ could talk immediately after their birth and could even walk and prostrate while proclaiming the testimony of faith [Madinatul Ma’aajiz, 8:22].Shi’ism teaches that when Ali radiallahu anh was born, one of the first words he spoke were the verses of Surah al Mu’minoon. As we know, Ali was much younger than the Prophet sallalahu aleyhi wasallam. When the Prophet received his very first wahi [revelation] from Allah azzawajal, delivered by the angel Jibril in the cave of Hira, his age was 40 years, while Ali was a small child around 10 years old.This draws us near to the main question of this topic, namely: who was the first to receive revelation of the Qur’aan from Allah according to Shi’ism, was it Muhammad sallalahu aleyhi wasallam or Ali radiallahu anh?In the Shi’a renowned biography of Ali ra, we read the following testimonies:The chain:قال ابن شاذان : حدثني إبراهيم بن علي بإسناده عن أبي عبد الله جعفر بن محمد ، عن آبائه عليهم السلامثم قال : دخل رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله فلما دخل اهتز له أمير المؤمنين عليه السلام وضحك في وجهه وقال : السلام عليك يا رسول الله ورحمة الله وبركاته ، قال : ثم تنحنح بإذن الله تعالى وقال : ( بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم * قد أفلح المؤمنون * الذينهم في صلاتهم خاشعون ) إلى آخر الآيات فقال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله قد أفلحوا بك ، وقرأ تمام الآيات إلى قولهhttp://www.najaf.org/?lang=arabic&tab=ara_link&cat=event&id=e_24ولد علي (عليه السلام) في اليوم الثالث عشر من رجب سنة ثلاثين من عام الفيل في جوف الكعبة شرفها الله زائريها و لم يولد قبله و لا بعده مولود في بيت الله الحرام سواه كرم الله وجهه عن السجود لأصنامها فكانما كان ميلاده ثمة ايذانا بعهد جديد للكعبة و للعبادة فيها و كاد علي أن يولد مسلما،بل و قد ولد مسلما تحقيقا،و بعد خروجه عن البيت لم يفتح عينيه إلا على رسول الله (صلى الله عليه و آله) و قرأ من سورة المؤمنون: (بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم قد أفلح المؤمنون الذينهم في صلاتهم خاشعون)http://www.imamalinet.net/ar/ac/acb/acba/acbad/acbad3.htm


ثم دخل رسول الله (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)، فلمّا دخل اهتزّ لـه أمير المؤمنين (عليه السلام) وضحك في وجهه وقال: السلام عليك يا رسول الله ورحمة الله وبركاته.

قال: ثم تنحنح بإذن الله تعالى وقال: {بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم، قد أفلح المؤمنون، الذين هم في صلاتهم خاشعون} إلى آخر الآيات

http://alshirazi.com/compilations/history/omahat_almasomin/5.htmIn short, it says that Ali ra was born; he greeted the Prophet, and then started to recite Surah al Mu’minun قد أفلح المؤمنون، الذين هم في صلاتهم خاشعون etc.From this, it is clear that although some Shi’a may disagree with this, Shi’ism teaches and acknowledges this. From the above, it can be concluded that according to Shi’ism, Ali was the first to receive the verses of the Qur’an and NOT the Prophet. In any case, he was according to Shi'ism the first to utter the Wahi. Which is offcrouse a blatant lie.
Salam,
You are 100% correct, Ali recieveing the first Wahy is a blatant lie, however, in Shiaism there is a theory that, since the Prophet had decided to care for Imam Ali, he may have taken him to the mountain with him at the time of Wahy and he saw it then, or, at the very least been informed of it by the Prophet.

As of now I have no access to any Shia resources; I've only heard this theory once over a Shia channel; but it is a THEORY, not written in stone.

Regarding the birth through the thigh.. I assure you that is hersay. Remember, the Shia's only 100% book is the Quran. Period. The Kafi, being a very reliable source of Shias is thought to be only 30% correct. This is because Al-Kafi said that he will only compile Ahadiths, he will not judge their authenticy, so that the people after him will have a refrence to the Prophet's Sunnah; after filtering it from fabrications ofcourse..

If you don't mind brother, I have already asked 10 questions in the "Tauheed" section; if you, or anyone for that matter, could shed some light on those questions I'd be very thankful Edited by DrDoctor
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I would request all you muslim. Please do not fight with each other, our really enemy are not shia and sunni.  we are muslim. we have to follow the thing which are common among us. You know common thing b/w us quran, allah, rasool and ahele baith and sahaba. please do not fight.   

 

     

 

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