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Hadith confirming Mutawiffik = Death?

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Someone clarify Insh'Allah What sort of Isnad does it have, is it strong/weak? etc. And what's the correct reply?

Explaining the Quranic verse, "O Jesus, I will cause thee to die (mutawaffi-ka)", Ibn Abbas is recorded as saying:
"Ibn Abbas said: mutawaffi-ka means ‘I will cause thee to die(mumitu-ka) ’." (Bukhari, Kitab al-Tafsir, on verse 5:110)



So This is what I received in Tafsir at-Tabari 5/450
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Ali is Ali bin Abi Talha, and he didn't hear the [i]tafseer[/i] from Ibn Abbas. That is the opinion of the scholars.
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[quote name='Farid' timestamp='1393863706' post='142082']
Ali is Ali bin Abi Talha, and he didn't hear the [i]tafseer[/i] from Ibn Abbas. That is the opinion of the scholars.
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Yeah I understand that Akhi, but how reliable is this Hadith and why is it in Bukhari and Tafsir at-Tabarri? And what's scholary opinions to this Hadith- Jazakallah
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Can you kindly explain why this narration is interesting for you bro?
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Qadianis use it to show that Jesus has died, and he will not come again. Edited by kalaam
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[quote name='kalaam' timestamp='1393882236' post='142095']
Qadianis use it to show that Jesus has died, and he will not come again.
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god cant revive him?
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[quote name='Hani' timestamp='1393882407' post='142096']
[quote name='kalaam' timestamp='1393882236' post='142095']
Qadianis use it to show that Jesus has died, and he will not come again.
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god cant revive him?
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yup but this is one of their arguments, refuted many times by many people.
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[quote]Yeah I understand that Akhi, but how reliable is this Hadith and why is it in Bukhari and Tafsir at-Tabarri? And what's scholary opinions to this Hadith- Jazakallah[/quote]

It is not a reliable hadith. Al-Bukhari doesn't even quote a chain to establish it, therefore, it is not from the conditions of his books.
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[quote name='Farid' timestamp='1393912554' post='142102']
[quote]Yeah I understand that Akhi, but how reliable is this Hadith and why is it in Bukhari and Tafsir at-Tabarri? And what's scholary opinions to this Hadith- Jazakallah[/quote]

It is not a reliable hadith. Al-Bukhari doesn't even quote a chain to establish it, therefore, it is not from the conditions of his books.
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Evidence please and why is it in tabari? I've sent it to a brother in Azhar to get it looked at
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