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Abu Bakr

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Well

Plz

app mujhay Hazrat Abu Bakr ke Date of Birth tu batain with sahi-sita or moaatbaar

books reference....

i don't know his date of birth...

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Bakr

According to the Above, he was born two years after the birth of the prophet image008.gif573 AD - And died 2 years after the death of the prophet image008.gif634 AD

However, i did not find an exact date of his bith. The exact date of his death is given.

August 23, 634

Wasalamu Alaikum

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No No Brother plz plz tell me the exact date of Birth of Abu Bakar and don't tell me

that he born befor Hazrat Mohammad (p.b.u.h)....

Give me the Correct date of Birth i Challange to all Sunni and wahbbies....

give reference with authantic proof.....

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Authentic proof of what? if ameerul momineen hz. Abu Bakr Al-Siddique[ra] was born or not? Brother just gave you dates and what he state is authentic.

Why do you not give me the proof that if incident of Karbala occured on 10th of Muharram? remember that Hz. Hussain[ra] left Makkah after 9 Duhijjah, it must be after eid day, he travelled more than 1300 miles with a whole caravan of women and children and then meeting people on the way making allainces with Arab tribes and then waiting fo the new from Muslim Bin Aqueel, he did all this in less then twenty days, including meeting with the army of Hur and then arriving at Karbala on 1st of Muharram. Now go and challenge all your zakirs to prove this travel actually occured as they propogate within the time the claim.

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No No Brother plz plz tell me the exact date of Birth of Abu Bakar and don't tell me

that he born befor Hazrat Mohammad (p.b.u.h)....

Give me the Correct date of Birth i Challange to all Sunni and wahbbies....

give reference with authantic proof.....

Subhanallah...What for bro?

Do you know the exact birth date of the all the prophets mentioned in the Quran?

Never mind my question, I'd like to see your response to Fatah-Momin's unanswered question...

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Brother first of all i m talking about Hazrat Abu Bakar not Hazrat Imam Hussain image019.gif

remember it.........

I want to say that tell me the Date of Birth like Hazrat Imam Ali image019.gif . for example:

The Date of Birth of Hazrat Imam Ali image019.gif is (13 rajab 30 ammul-feel) give me as the proof of the Birth of Hazrat Abu Bakar... Understand or not......

Secondly, if u give me the proof from authantic books then talk on other topics with me..

1st u proof ur Ammer-ul-moomenin Hazrat Abu Bakar Sadeqq Date of Birth....

ok

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What for? What do we benefit from the birthdate of our Khalifa (ra) ?

Would we celebrate his birthday? Would we get rewarded for knowing the EXACT birth date of a person? Show me where in the Quran and Sunnah it is important for us to know a person's exact birth date...

I am sure if you journeyed to an Islamic Library and asked for a biography of Abu bakr (ra), you will not be disappointed...Why dont I do it you ask? Dont have the time.

Ok, it seems you have a knock out blow you are eager to deliver when we say we dont have a clue about his exact brithdate, come on already, we dont have the time for games. We must unite and come to an understanding before time is up and any of us die on the path of the Shaytaan.

The Date of Birth of Hazrat Imam Ali (ra) is (13 rajab 30 ammul-feel)

May Allah Bless the GREAT KHALIF (ra)! Great, we know the exact birthdate of Ali (ra)................................................................................................................................................Whats the point!?

Wasalaamu Alaikum

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The Date of Birth of Hazrat Imam Ali is (13 rajab 30 ammul-feel) give me as the proof of the Birth of Hazrat Abu Bakar... Understand or not......

Provied irrefutable proof of this. And also answer my question.

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hey hey

well ok i will give u proof from ur books understand.....

otherwise u gv me proof 1st...

i know that u never find any proof of his birth in any book.....

it means that Muslims don't know the Birth of there 1st calipha oh hoo....

it means that there personality is not soo important that the writer of that time

tell us about there previous time ..... oh i remember they are Kafir 40 years....m i right...

ok ok kia aub mere iss baat per iktafa kerte hoo or nahi.....

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it means that Muslims don't know the Birth of there 1st calipha oh hoo....
August 23, 634

It appears to much mataam this muharram had effect on you, and you are the one who said wait I am comming, you came and busted with a whimper....and yes we are muslims and you are a shia.

Now if you have some thing to debate with let us hear it, do not go aroound like a stubborn brat denying the facts.

Let me ask you a question if you answer it I will not debate with you any more. Tell us alll here how far is "FORT KHYBAR" from Medina, and which gate did Hz. Ali image009.gif lifted, also please tell who is known as Fatah-e-Khyber.

Now we have two questions under this thread that you have answer, I hope like your father you will not run off, but like a true shia stay here and defend your imams.

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i think that this is his death date not his birth date

( However, i did not find an exact date of his bith. The exact date of his death is given.

August 23, 634 (Sayfullah) )

read it carefully..... which sayfullah told us.....

hey hey

u say to me that :

" I hope like your father you will not run off, but like a true shia stay here and defend your imams. "

hey u attack on my Imam's its soo bad for u that u call ur and ur calipha's death

from my hand... oh no... from ur writer's hand....

i will inshallah give u proof with reference from ur books.. now u happy...

i will see u and also tell u that who run from battle's..... and who not and fight against

kafirs....

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i will see u and also tell u that who run from battle's..... and who not and fight against

kafirs....

Why do you not tell us, while you are at it tell us also how much area was under Your first imam rule, do not forget that when Hz. Uthman Al-Ghani [ra] passed away that sun did not set in his khilafate.

Now you shia claim that your first imam had super powers, so tell us how much more area did come under his[ra] influence. Was Hz. Ali Assadullah[ra] able to defeat his enemies like Hz. Ameer Mauwiyah[ra]? as according to shia hz. Mauwiyah[ra] was a coward [naouzobillah].

YOu must be new on the internet, the issues you think are some big and new finds by you are lies propogated by shia.

Let me give you a news which I think you did not hear, the one of the greatest General of all time is Hz. Khallid bin Waleed Saifullah[ra] he crushed your fore fathers Majoosies[persian empire], a common soldier killed the mightiest Majoosi General "Rustam" like a dog on 10th of muharram, this is the reason that shia celebrate 10th of muharrum as mataam day.

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Well I do not need advice from you I know what I am talking about, why do you not answer the issues here and stop with this brat behavior.

Stop telling these stories here let us discuss facts.

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"Battle Of KHAYBER"

yeh battle (7 hijri) main hoe. Khayber Madina saee taqreebaan 50 mile ke doori per waqia hai. Hazrat Mohammad 1400 piadoon and 200 savaroon ka lashkar lee ker inn ke sir-koobe kee leaee ravana hoe oer (14 Safar 7 hijri) koo khayber main poonch ker mohasra kia. Khayber main Jews kee joo sab saee bari(big) phana-gha thee woo " Qila Qamoos " kee name saee famous hai.

iss battle main Hazrat Abu Bakar and HAzrat Omer jang kerne jatee tu Marhab oer Antar koo dekh ker daar ker wapas bhaag atee...

("Mustadrak-e-Hakim", "Tarikh-e-Tibri vol 3, page 93", "Tarikh-e-Ahamdi page 59" and "Shavaid-ul-Nabooat page 85" etc main write hai kee " Hazrat Omer nee apni khasiat kee thheeatt laskher-e-Islam koo buzdil kehtee oer lashkar-e-Islam oen koo buzdil kehtaa". { Note: Wah kia shaan hai Calipha kee oer kia bravery hai Subhanallah}.

* ROZA-tul-SAFA main Bab-e-Khayber ka weight 3 thousand maan bateya gia hai..

"Tibri" main hai ke Hazrat Omer said that: "keh sardari ka jesa hosla mujhay Khayber main hoa, aesa kabhi nahi hoa.". [ Note: Oh hoo sara pani phir gia soo sad]

IN Battle of Khayber after see the bravery or ( see the match of cricket of Calipha's) Hazrat Mohammad Said that: I will give Alaam(flag of Islam) with my hands to that person who is a MAN in you{Kaal main Alaam oes person koo doon ga joo tum main saee maard(MAN) hoo ga oer Karaar oer ghair-e-Fraar hoo ga, woo Allah oer oes ke Rasool koo "Dost" rakhta hoo ga oer Allah oer Oes ka Rasool oes ko "Dost" rakhte hoon gee} "Karaar oer ghair-e-Fraar" and he friendship with the Allah and his Prophet and Allah and his Prophet Friendship with him. woo enemies per bhhar chaar ker Attack kerne wala hoo ga oer medan-e-jang saee iss waqat taak na paltee ga jab tak Qila-Qamoos fatha(win) na hoo jaee.

Yesterday u said to me that don't run like ur father and now see that Who run from Battle and How......

" Battle Of Ohaad"

yeh battle 15 Shawal 3 hijri koo hoe..

In this battle HAzrat Abu Bakar and Hazrat Omer etc tu iss tarha sar per paoon raakh ker bhagee(run) kee onhoon nee palat ker bhee na Dekhake kee image012.gif per kia guzar rahi hai.

In Sahi-Bukhuri that: keh Hazrat Abu Bakar k and Omer kee saath Hazrat Usman bhee bhag(run) kharee hoe thee.

{"Dare-Mansoor, vol 2, page 88" and "Kanzul-Ammal, vol 1, page 238"} main hai kee Abu Bakar bhaag ker mountain ke Top(chootee) per chaar gaee thee and khud Abu Bakar ka khena hai ke main mountain ke choote(top) per iss tarha occhk raha tha jasee pharee bakari(goat)occhkati hai.

And in this Battle of Ohad Allah give the Sword Zulfiqar to Hazrat Imam Ali image019.gif and in this battle give the saanad of " La Fata ilaa Ali " to Hazrat Ali image019.gif . {" Tibri, vol 2, page 406", "Tarik-e-Kamil, Vol 2, page 58"}.

Haan now see ur Caliphas Bravery and proud that ur the follower of these Calipha's.

Shia have Proud that they r the followers of Hazrat Imam ALI a.s.

I hope kee iss ke read kerne ke baad brain apni jagha aa jaee ga jis per Wabiaat ka jin savaar hai..

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