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Sigheh/temprory husband in Iran

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"You probably had your chador on the wrong way around," my friend explained. "That's one of the signals women use if they're looking for sigheh." Sigheh, or muta agreed between a man and woman and sanctioned by a cleric, can last as little as a few minutes or as long as ninety-nine years. Usually the man pays the woman an agreed sum of money in exchange for a temporary marriage. The usual motive is sex, but some temporary marriages are agreed upon for other purposes. When sex is the motive the transaction differs from prostitution in that the couple have to go before a cleric to record their contract, and in Iran, any children born of the union are legitimate. Otherwise, sigheh is free of the responsibilities of marriage: the couple can make any agreements they like regarding how much time they will spend together, how much money will be involved and what services, sexual or nonsexual, each will provide. Shiites believe Muhammad approved of sigheh. Sunnis, the majority branch of Islam, don't agree. Even in Shiite Iran, sigheh had fallen from favor until Rafsanjani encouraged it after the Iran-Iraq War which ended in 1988. In a 1990 sermon, he argued that the war had left a lot of young widows, many of them without hope of remarriage. Such women, he said, needed both material support and sexual satisfaction. [mutah is nothing but Iran sponsored Prostitution] At the same time, plenty of young men who couldn't afford to set up house for a bride were postponing marriage. Sexual tension needed healthy release, he said, and since sigheh existed for that purpose within Islam, why not use it? His remarks sparked a heated debate among Iranian women, some of whom bitterly opposed the practice as exploitative. They argued that the state should provide for war widows adequately, so that they didn't have to sell their bodies in sigheh. But others spoke out in its favor. Sigheh, they said, wasn't just a matter of money. Widows and divorcees had sexual needs and a desire for male company, and the sigheh "husband" was a welcome male presence for the children in their homes. Iran's satirical weekly magazine, Golagha, ran a cartoon lampooning the likely effects of Rafsanjani's argument. It showed two desks for marriage licenses, one for sigheh and one for permanent wedlock. The clerk at the permanent desk had no customers; the queue for sigheh stretched out the door. Mostly, it is poorer women who consent to sigheh. A lawyer friend told me about her cleaner, whose husband had died young and left her to support two children. "For a long time, she was a very bitter person," my friend said. "She would come to my house and see me enjoying my life with my husband and daughter, while her life was nothing but work." Then the cleaner contracted a temporary marriage. "Her personality changed overnight. It wasn't just the money. Suddenly, she had a man to spend time with, to take her out. In our culture, a man and a woman can't just go out on a date and enjoy each other's company, but with sigheh they can." Some Shiites also use sigheh to create a relationship that will allow a woman to appear unveiled in front of a man before whom it would otherwise be forbidden-for instance, a distant relative sharing the same house. These sigheh contracts are written to specify that no sexual relations are involved. In the West, some Shiite families are using sigheh as a way to make it possible for young couples to get to know each other well before marriage. A sigheh contract that bans sexual relations can allow a boy and girl to date each other for the duration of their engagement, without defying religion or tradition. Sigheh also provides an answer to the kinds of infertility problems that Westerners are now trying to solve with legal contracts for surrogate motherhood. In the Sunni branch of Islam, if a woman is infertile her husband usually divorces her or brings home a second wife. In Iran, a sigheh contract can be drawn up signifying that the object of the temporary marriage is a child that the husband and his permanent wife will raise. Sigheh is also the only way a Shiite man can marry a nonMuslim woman. Unlike the Sunnis, who allow Muslim men to marry other monotheists, Shiites demand conversion from all non-Muslim women, as well as non-Muslim men, before a permanent marriage is valid. Rafsanjani's revival of sigheh came as a boon to nonreligious Iranians whose private lives had been disrupted by revolutionary intrusions.

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The Mut'ah Pimps - Rotten Fruits of Shi'ism

The Mut'ah Pimps - Rotten Fruits of Shi'ism

According to an official source in Tehran, there has been a 635 percent increase in the number of teenage girls in prostitution, or rather, Mutah. The magnitude of this statistic conveys how rapidly this form of abuse has grown. In Tehran, there are an estimated 84,000 women and girls in prostitution, many of them are on the streets, others are in the 250 brothels that reportedly operate in the city. The trade is also international: thousands of Iranian women and girls have been been "contracted in Mutah" to foreigners abroad. The head of Iran

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lol. If dower amount for Mutah marriage is like selling the body, then will it mean that dower amount for permanant marriage is selling body permananatly? People here do every immoral act but the same raise voice againt Mutah marriage which is clearly allowed in the light of holy Quran and hadiths of Prophet (pbuh). By the passage of time world is understanding the concept of Mutah marriage. You do not want, ok then do whatever you want to do. Be open tell me how many unmarried men can avoid major sin of mensturation? There might be difference of period. Some might do it after one day. Some after three days or some after a week. But let us suppose one doesnot have a permanant wife then what he should do? Like the economic conditions in the world. There are many poor families who do not earn much to marry and afford a family what should they do? They should mensturate in your view i think. Place your hand on holy Quran and say that you never did mensturation or if you are married then you never did it when you were not married. Before raising hue and cry against legitimacy of Mutah marriage see your own peopl in Egypt, morocco and Saudi Arab who are doing Missyar marriage. That must also be a Zina before you. Why do not you register your self in http://www.missyar.com/

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^You are a shia you accept universality of Zina Mutah, I am a muslim son of Ummal Momineen Sayadah Hz. Ayesha Siddika[ra] and I reject any inovation in Islam including this Missyar Marriage.

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we just have Lanat for such scholars and the person who is introducing it from any school of thought now do you have courrage to send lanat on your pop , pal , pundit or padries ?

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The companions practised mut'a, and it was never banned.

End of story.

^You are a shia you accept universality of Zina Mutah,

So according to you, image015.gif allowed zina, and the Prophet and companions committed zina?

You fool.

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You do not want, ok then do whatever you want to do. Be open tell me how many unmarried men can avoid major sin of mensturation? There might be difference of period. Some might do it after one day. Some after three days or some after a week. But let us suppose one doesnot have a permanant wife then what he should do? Like the economic conditions in the world. There are many poor families who do not earn much to marry and afford a family what should they do? They should mensturate in your view i think. Place your hand on holy Quran and say that you never did mensturation or if you are married then you never did it when you were not married.

Menstruation is for women not men. And if you are talking about masturbation which is what I think you meant, than the solution for the unmarried is to fast rather to wanking it.

The economic condition of the Muslims? This is the reason for mutah? Islam already solved the problem of economic conditions in the necessity of paying zakah, if people are not paying zakah, than that does not mean you come with new solutions for the poor (like mutah). It means you go and force zakah out of the people who aren't willing to pay it as they are murtad.

You claimed that the mutah has numerous evidence from Qur'an and Ahadith, if so than bring it. The only ahadith that might support mut'ah would come from your sex-crazed Rawafid fabrications but not from the Sahih ahadeeth.

I said to Ibn 'Abbas, "During the battle of Khaibar the Prophet forbade (Nikah) Al-Mut'a and the eating of donkey's meat." (Sahih al Bukhari 7/62/50)

Narrated 'Ali:Allah's Apostle prohibited Al-Mut'a marriage and the eating of donkey's meat in the year of the Khaibar battle (7/67/432)

Before raising hue and cry against legitimacy of Mutah marriage see your own peopl in Egypt, morocco and Saudi Arab who are doing Missyar marriage. That must also be a Zina before you. Why do not you register your self in http://www.missyar.com/

There is a difference between what the people do and what was commanded. If you want us to judge you by the visual alone, than there was a Rafidi Iranian here who tried to run people over in his car at a university after the Dutch cartoon controversy. Completely unrelated people for something done by the Dutch. And by this I can say you Rawafid do not know how to drive, but if I want to say something about Rawafid and use my brain than I wouldn't be quoting what the masses of Rawafid have done but rather what your scholars ordered you to do and what the ahadith you fabricate teach you to do.

And if some of the people who call themselves Ahlus Sunnah are doing this disgusting act than they are no better than you and just like you in that they have commited a biddah in a religon perfected. And no Muslim here would claim any association with these scum but perhaps you Rawafid will get along with them just fine.

The companions practised mut'a, and it was never banned.

End of story.

So according to you, image015.gif allowed zina, and the Prophet and companions committed zina?

You fool.

No, you're the fool. See the authentic narrations, it may have been allowed at a time but it later came to be prohibited. Not everything is done just at once, and the same was the case of alchoholic drinks which used to be permissable but came to be haram.

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Husayn

The companions practised mut'a, and it was never banned.

i am interested in the offspringer of Hazrat Ali r.z including their women why (purpose) and when (date and time ) they did mutah , especially from Imam Zainul ABedeeb , to Imam Hasan askari and prove it if last imam is not formed after the act of muta

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According to the shia historian Imam Baqir practised Mutah every year on the day of Khaibar as celebration of the occassion.

Wallah U Allam

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According to the shia historian Imam Baqir practised Mutah every year on the day of Khaibar as celebration of the occassion.

wow what a Nobel imam , did he had any kid from that blessed action ? and did he told and teach the same blessings to women of his family ?>

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No, you're the fool. See the authentic narrations, it may have been allowed at a time but it later came to be prohibited. Not everything is done just at once, and the same was the case of alchoholic drinks which used to be permissable but came to be haram.

According to the sunni myths, the Prophet allowed mut'a, then forbade it (at Khaybar), then he allowed it (in Mecca) then forbade it.

Also, other narrations claim 'Hazrat Umar r.z forbade it, and that it was infact practised during the time of hazrat Abu Bakr r.z.

And furthermore, narrations state that Ibn 'Abbas r.z said mut'a was legal.

Was this the case with alcohol?

No, your analogy is useless little boy.

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According to the sunni myths, the Prophet allowed mut'a, then forbade it (at Khaybar), then he allowed it (in Mecca) then forbade it.

Also, other narrations claim 'Umar forbade it, and that it was infact practised during the time of Abu Bakr.

And furthermore, narrations state that Ibn 'Abbas said mut'a was legal.

Was this the case with alcohol?

No, your analogy is useless little boy.

Ya Jahil I don't see how my age plays into the matter, when a message is sent out, all the Muslims don't receive it at once. And this was the case with the Qur'an itself as it had to be compiled by Uthman (ra) and Abu Bakr(ra) before him.

With alchohal the prohibition came directly from Al Qur'an and when the message is divine revelation it is expected to travel faster anyways. But when a message is limited to some Mujahideen heading off to Khaibar or heading away from Khaibar than the message would be expected to not make it as fast to some places as it did to others. We don't attribute super-natural qualities to men with a falacitious hope that they will one day intercede us, we have to look at what happened reasonablly.

As for a message not reaching everyone, there is such an example in the case of Abu Bakr Siddiq (ra) who had received the part of the message ("Anbiya do not leave inheritence") but he had not received the part of the message that it was not the case for grandmothers and so he still had to hand over inheritance to them when he was told of this narration by the other Sahabhi (ra). Clearly than the problem wasn't that mut'ah is or is not forbidden or wether inheritence is given at all or not at all, but it was a problem of communication that wouldn't be properlly solved until ahadith begun to be collected and written in bigger collections encompassing views from all over the Muslim world, or at least from qadis from entire areas.

Another similar case was when Ali (ra) burned the ghulat because he had not yet received the message forbidding burning people alive. This doesn't mean that the message didn't exist but that it had not reached certain people.

Also, other narrations claim 'Umar forbade it, and that it was infact practised during the time of Abu Bakr.

Show them than. As for them being practiced during the time of Abu Bakr Siddiq (ra), he had opened the doors of jihad and launched it against 11 fronts. This doesn't allow a man to go from ta'if to medina and make sure that every tribe is properlly practicing shari'ah and in some towns they weren't even doing the prayer properlly and it's recounted that when Khalid Bin Walid (ra) led a prayer they criticized him though he had led it in the sunnah of rasulallah(saw).

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deathpasser, the above post is useless and irrelevant, and does not address any of the points I raised regarding your false analogy.

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deathpasser, the above post is useless and irrelevant, and does not address any of the points I raised regarding your false analogy.

I wasn't responding about my analogy, which I accepted as being incorrect (otherwise I would've replied about it). I was responding to your baseless claim against the narrations as being "sunni myths" when the "myth" can be easily resolved as a matter of communication.

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Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 51:

Narrated Abu Jamra:

I heard Ibn Abbas (giving a verdict) when he was asked about the Mut'a with the women, and he permitted it (Nikah-al-Mut'a). On that a freed slave of his said to him, "That is only when it is very badly needed and women are scarce." On that, Ibn 'Abbas said, "Yes."

Muslim Book 008, Number 3248:

Ibn Uraij reported: 'Ati' reported that jibir b. Abdullah came to perform 'Umra, and we came to his abode, and the people asked him about different things, and then they made a mention of temporary marriage, whereupon he said: Yes, we had been benefiting ourselves by this temporary marriage during the lifetime of theHoly Prophet (may peace be upon him) and during the tinie of Abi! Bakr and 'Umar

Muslim Book 008, Number 3250:

Abu Nadra reported: While I was in the company of Jabir b. Abdullah, a person came to him and said that Ibn 'Abbas and Ibn Zubair differed on the two types of Mut'as (Tamattu' of Hajj 1846 and Tamattu' with women), whereupon Jabir said: We used to do these two during the lifetime of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him). Umar then forbade us to do them, and so we did not revert to them.

Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Number 43:

Narrated 'Imran bin Husain:

The Verse of Muta was revealed in Allah's Book, so we performed it with Allah's Apostle, and nothing was revealed in Qur'an to make it illegal, nor did the Prophet prohibit it till he died. But the man (who regarded it illegal) just expressed what his own mind suggested.

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