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AS I KNOW, and all other muslims believe that Quran was collected by sahaba.

Do you accept that? Hope that yes. But anyway you can't claim that Quran (which is in our hands) was collected by any of imams.

Let us see the name of the heading in the first volume of your famous Al Kafi.

باب انه لم يجمع القرآن كله الا الائمة عليهم السلام وانهم يعلمون علمه كله

http://www.al-shia.com/html/ara/books/al-kafi-1/99.html

"No one exept imams collected all Quran......"

كله -----that is mean all.

So Kulayni named chapter like this.

And there is no doubt that Quran (which is in our hands) WASN'T COLLECTED BY IMAM.

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Rejecting Accuracy/Integrity of Quran-Fundamental Belief of Shi'ism

The most important, oldest and the most reliable book of creed and fiqh (jurisprudence) for jafri shias is

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Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Regardless of the authenticity, there are a good number of narrations within both sunnis

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Abu Bakr and Umar were more tyrant than Shaitan. (Haq-ul-Yaqeen, Page No. 509)

Shaikheen (r.a) refused to accept the Quran which was compiled by Hazrat Ali (r.a). (Fasal-ul-Khitab, Page No. 64)

Hazrat Abu Bakr and Hazrat Umar among seven doors of the hell. (Haq-ul-Yaqeen, Page No. 500)

Quran was eaten by Goat. (Min Kitab-ul-Burhan Fee Tafseer-ul-Quran, Page No. 38) [Naouzobillah]

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Let see how "infalible" imam speak about verse of Quran. The verse is this one

كنتم خير أمة أخرجت للناس تأمرون بالمعروف وتنهون عن المنكر وتؤمنون بالله

When imam Abu Abdullah was asked, how this verse was revealed, he said: "كنتم خير أئمة أخرجت للناس .This is Quran----3/110. "You are the best of the nations raised up for (the benefit of) men; you enjoin what is right and forbid the wrong and believe in Allah".

And this is the version of imam---You are the best of the imams raised up for (the benefit of) men; you enjoin what is right and forbid the wrong and believe in Allah.

(Tafsir Kashani, vol 1 p370)

http://www.rafed.net/books/olom-quran/al-safi-01/23.html
(╩Tafsir Qummi؛ том 1, стр 36)
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http://www.ahl-ul-bait.org/newlib/Quran/Al_Qomi1/index1.htm

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Al-Jazaeri, in his book Al-Anwar Al-Numania p.360-362 said that after Ali collected Quran, he brought it to Caliphs and said to them:"This is the book of Allah as revealed. So Umar Ibn Al-Khattab said to him: We have no need of you nor your Quran. We have a Quran writted by Usman. So Ali said to them: "You will not see it after this day , and none will see until my son the Mehdi emerges." In that Quran are many additions and it is free from alteration......"

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Original Quran will not come into view till the manifestation of Imam Mehdi (SHIAs 12th Imam) (Na

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"The Quran collected after the prophet is not the correct quran" Hazaar Tumhari dus Hamari Page # 560 by Abdul Karim Mushtaq, Karachi.

"Munafiqeen deleted lot of stuff from Quran" Ehtijaj-e-Tabri vol 1 page# 382 Printed in Qom

" Shia only reciet the present Quran as Imam said to wait for the actual Quran to be brought by Imam Mahdi" Anwaar Ul Naumania Vol. 2 page # 343/344

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4 أبوعلي الاشعري، عن محمد بن عبدالجبار، عن صفوان، عن إسحاق بن عمار، عن أبي بصير، عن أبي جعفر (عليه السلام) قال: نزل القرآن أربعة أرباع: ربع فينا وربع في عدونا وربع سنن وأمثال وربع فرائض وأحكام (1).

http://www.alhikmeh.com/arabic/mktba/hadith/alkafi02/21.htm

It was narrated from Abu Jafar: "Quran was revealed in parts. Quarter is with us, other with our enemies, quarter is sunna with "amthaalu", and in (last) quarter are duties and judgements" (see "Al Kafi" 2/628/4)

(Also see "Bihar al anwar" Maclisi 89/74)

وقال عليه السلام: نزل القرآن أربعة أرباع: ربع فينا، وربع في عدونا، وربع قصص وأمثال، وربع قضايا وأحكام،

http://shiabooks.info/books/htm1/m013/13/no1368.html

(Also see "Al Vafi" p 256, from Abu Jafar)

عن أبي جعفر عليه السلام، قال: نزل القرآن أربعة أرباع: ربع فينا، وربع في عدونا، وربع سنن وأمثال، وربع فرائض وأحكام

http://shiabooks.info/books/htm1/m018/22/no2213.html
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Quran is Fitna

[ 25356 ] 2 ـ وعن عدة من أصحابنا ، عن سهل بن زياد ، عن علي بن اسباط ، عن عمه يعقوب بن سالم رفعه ، قال : قال أمير المؤمنين ( عليه السلام ) : لا تعلموا نساءكم سورة يوسف ولا تقرؤوهن اياها فإنّ فيها الفتن وعلّموهنّ سورة النور فانّ فيها المواعظ .

http://www.rafed.net/books/hadith/wasael-20/v09.html

Allama Hurr Amili narrated in his book "Wasael" vol 20/177: "Amirul-Mu'mineen sayd :Don't you teach your women Surat Yousuf, nor read it to them, for in it are Fitan (plural of Fitnah), rather teach them Surat al-Nur, for in it are exhortations."

Also see "Tafsir As Safi" 3/57

وفي الكافي عن أمير المؤمنين عليه السلام لا تعلموا نساءكم سورة يوسف عليه السلام ولا تقرؤهن إياها فإن فيها الفتن وعلموهن سورة النور فإن فيها المواعظ

http://www.rafed.net/books/olom-quran/al-safi-03/03.html

First and the most important from this narration: SURA FROM QURAN IS FITNA

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Shia Belief

One important remark, here, is that, we cannot call any person (Shi'a

or Sunni) who claims Quran is incomplete, as Kafir. This is simply

because believing in the completeness of Quran is not an article of

faith, nor do we have any tradition saying that anyone who claims

Quran is incomplete, is a Kafir. Also, the verse of Quran that states

that Allah is the protector of the Reminder, can be interpreted

differently. (Logically we cannot prove the lack of alteration in

Quran by Quran!)

http://www.[not allowed]/encyclopedia/chapter8/5.html

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Quran Is corrupted Shia belief

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Mullah Baqir Majlasi:" and traditions from the ways of the elite (i.e Shia) and the public (i.e Sunnah) regarding omission and change are numerous (mutawatir), and logic dectates that if the Quran was seperated and spread amongst people, then if a fallible has tried to collect it, then it is highly unlikely that its collection would be complete and in compliance with reality. However, there is no doubt that people are obliged to work with what is included in the Mushafs and to read it until Al-Qayem appears, and this is known through numersous traditions (mutawatir) from the way of Ahlul Bayt and most traditions relating to this topic point to omission and change, and many of it will be related in the chapters..........."

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" This tradition is authentic and it cannot be hidden that this traditon and many more authentic traditons are explicit in (saying) that the Quran is missing and has changed. For me, (I believe) that the traditions have reached tawatur (i.e they are numerous) with regards to the meaning, and ignoring all of it would mean ignoring all traditions accordingly , but I think that the narrations in this meaning are not less than the narrations if Imamah so how do they confirm it using traditions?" Mirat Al-Uqool Vol 12 p. 525

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Brother this is a book "Mafatih Al Jinna" by Abbas Qummi. Page 72.

In footnote he wrote: "Allama Majlisi said : Revelation of ayat Al-Kursi according to the narration of Ali Bin Ibrahim (Al Qummi) and Kulaini is:

Allah! La Ilaha Illa Huwa, the Ever Living, the One who sustains and protects all that exists. Neither slumber, nor sleep overtake Him. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on earth. Who is he that can intercede with Him except with His Permission? He knows what happens to them in this world, and what will happen to them in the Hereafter and that which is inbetween them and that which is under the soil., the knower of all that which is hidden and that which is manifest, the most Beneficent, the most Merciful. And they will never compass anything of His Knowledge except that which He wills. His Kursi extends over the heavens and the earth, and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them. And He is the Most High, the Most Great...(till)..they will abide therein forever".

Here on-line

(قال العلامة المجلسي: آية الكرسي على التنزيل على رواية عليّ بن ابراهيم والكليني هي كما يلي: الله لا اله إلاّ هو الحيّ القيوم لا تأخذه سنة ولا نوم له ما في السماوات والارض وما بينهما وما تحت الثرى عالم الغيب والشهادة الرحمن الرحيم من ذا الذي ... الى هم فيها خالدون).

http://www.aljaafaria.com/Mafatih/meftah02.htm
By the way the same think in the footnote of book "Sahifatul bihar" by Abbas Qummi.
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That is book "Ayatul nash va mansuh fi Quran" compilied from narrations of Abu Abdullah Muhammad ibn Ibrahim Numani. Author is Ali ibn Husayn ibn Musa Shariful Murtada.

I could translate only sentence in red (there is no dictionary near me)

"There is no antagonisms between muslims that there are corruptions, like omission and addition of letters in the Quran"

(If anyone will do translation better, that will be fine)

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Al-Jazaeri, in his book Al-Anwar Al-Numania p.360-362 said: " It has been known through numerous narrations that the Quran as revealed was only collated by Ameer-ul-Momineen -ahs- based on the will of the Prophet -SAW-, for he remained after his death for six months busy compiling it , so when he compiled it as was revealed he took it to those who made themselves Caliphs after the Messenger of Allah -SAW- and said to them: this is the book of Allah as revealed. So Umar Ibn Al-Khattab said to him: We have no need of you nor your Quran. We have a Quran writted by Umar. So Ali said to them: "you will not see it after this day , and none will see until my son the Mehdi emerges."

In that Quran are many additions and it is free from alteration, for Uthman was one of the scribes of Revelation because of a benefit that he -SAW- perceived, which is that they would not consider him untruthful with regards to the Quran by saying that it is fabricated and that the Spirit of Truth did not descend with it as was said by their predecessors, rather they even said it. And as such, he also made Muawiya one of the scribes, six months before his death, for the same benefit, even though Uthman and his likes only attended in the Masjid with the general public , so they only wrote what Jibril -ahs- descended with. As for what he brought with him inside his house -SAW- it was only written by Ameer-ul-Momineen, because he has the right to enter and exit , so he alone was the one to write such revelation.

As for this Quran which is present today in the hands of people it was written in Uthman's handwriting , and they called it the Imam, and burned all others and concealed them, and sent it during the time when he made himself Caliph to all areas and regions, and thus you see that the rules of writing it are contradicting the rules of writing the Arabic language.

And Umar Ibn Al-Khattab has summoned Ali -ahs- during the time he made himself Caliph, asking him to bring the original Quran which he compilled. And he knew that he asked for it to burn it, as was done with the Quran of Ibn Masud, or to conceal it with him so that people would say: Quran is the the Book written by Uthman and none other, so he did not send it to him , and it is right now with Mawlana Al-Mehdi -ahs- along with other Holy Scripture and Prophetic heritage.

When Ameer-ul-Momineen took the reign of Khilafa he was not able to bring forward that Quran and conceal this one , because by doing so he will reveal the ugliness of those preceding him, just as he was not able to refrain from Saltul Dhuha, and just he was not able to perform the two Muta'as: the Muta'a of Hajj and the Muta'a of women.

The Quran which Uthman wrote remained until it fell in the hands of the Qura' (readers of Quran) so they altered it by Mad', Idhgam, and iltiqa' Al-Sakinayn (i.e the rules of Tajweed) just as Uthman and his companions altered it some of the verses in such way that common sense rejects and that brain dictates that it was not revealed as such."

On page 336 of the said book, Al-Jazaeri says: " And if you ask how has it become permissible to read this Quran the way it is even though it has been altered? I would say: It has been narrated in reports that they - Alyim Assalam- (i.e the infallible Imams) ordered their Shia to read what is available from the Quran in prayer and other (acts of worship) and do abide by its rulings until the emergence of Mawlana Sahib-ul-Zaman so this Quran that is present in the hands of people would be raised and the Quran which was compilled by Ameer-ul-Momineen would come out so it would be read and it's commandments practiced"

Al-Tabarsi narrates from Abu Thar -Raa- in his book Al-Ihtijaj p.155: " When the Messenger of Allah -SAW- died , Ali -ahs- compiled the Quran and brough it to the Muhajirs and Ansar and showed it to them, because the Messenger of Allah -SAW- ordered him to do so, so when Abu Bakr opened it , there appeared the scandals of the people on the first page, so Umar jumped and said: O Ali! take it back for we have no need of it. So Ali -ahs- took it back and departed. Then they brought Zayd Ibn Thabit, and he was a reader of the Quran, so Umar said to him: Ali has brought to us and it contains the scandals of the Muhajirs and Ansars, so we have decided that you would compile the Quran and that we would omit every scandal mentioned therein.

So Zayd answered his request. And when Umar became Caliph he requested Ali to give them the Quran so that they may altered amongst themselves"

He also said: " Do not be surprised of the many fabricated traditions , for after the Prophet (pbuh) they have changed and altered in this religion what is greater than this such as their changing of the Quran , and displacing it words and omitting what is mentioned in it of the praises for Al-e-Rasool and the pure Imams, and the scandals of the Munafiqs and showing their evil as will be mention in Noor Al-Quran " abid Vol1 p.97

When Al-Mufid was asked the following question:

Q: What is your opinion about the Quran. Is it what is included between the two covers in the hands of people, or was some of what Allah revealed to his Prophet get lost? And is it what Ameer-ul-Momineen -ahs- has compiled or is it what Uthman has compiled as those who differ with us claim?

He replied in Masael Surooriya (p.78-81):

All of what is between the two covers of the Quran is the Speech of Allah -tala- and His revelation, it does not contain any sayings of human beings, and it is most of what has been revealed, and the rest of what Allah -tala- has revealed as Quran is bestowed with the preserver of Sharia and custodian of (Islamic) rulings, none of it is omitted, even though the one who has compiled what is between the two covers, as present today (i.e Uthman -Raa- ), did not include this in the compilation due to reasons such as: his shortcomings in knowing some , what he had doubts about, and some which he included and others he meant to exclude, while Ameer-ul-Momineen compiled the revealed Quran from beginning to end, and collated it as it is supposed to be collated: so he put the Makki (ayas) before Madani , and abrogated verses before those abrogating them, and put all of it as it is required to be put, and for this reason Jafar Ibn Muhammad Al-Saddiq said: " By Allah if the Quran was read as it was revealed you would have found our names as those before us were named"

Al-Mufid further said: " Authentic traditions have passed from our Imams -Alyhim Assalam- that they have ordered (us) to read what is between the two covers , and that we do not resort to any other , by it in addition or subtraction until the Qayem emerges and he would read to people the Quran as Allah -tala- revealed it and as collected by Ameer-ul-Momineen and they forbade us from reading what is mentioned in traditions of words that are in excess of what is established in the Mus-haf because it did not come through mutawatir (narrations), but through individual (narrations) , and a person can commit mistakes in conveying it , and whenver a person reads what is contrary to what is in the two covers he will make himself prone to (the attacks) of those who differ with us , and to the mighty (rulers) and thus he would expose himself to perishing. Thus, they -Alyhim Assalam- prevented us from reading the Quran contrary to what is mentioned between the two covers"

Al-Mufid also said: " Ample traditions have been reported of the Imams of Guidance from Al-e-Muhammad that the Quran has changed and that some of the transgressors have altered it by deleting and omitting" Fasl Al-Khitab p.30

He also said: "All of what is between the two covers of the Quran is the Speech of Allah and His Revelation, it does not contain any of the people's sayings, and it is most of what has been revealed and the rest of what Allah has revealed as Quran is with the custodian of Shariah, the guardian of the rulings, none is lost from it. Even though he (i.e Uthman) did not include it in what has been compiled between the two covers (as is present) today amongst the collection of what he gathered due to reasons that made due this, such as him not knowing some of it, due to doubts about some of it, and some he left out and removed on purpose, and Ameer-ul-Momineen has collected the Quran from its begginning till its end , and collected it as it is supposed to be collected" abid

Al-Amili said in the introduction to the tafseer: Mira'at Al-Anwar wa Mishkat Al-Asrar p.36 : " You should know that the unavoidable truth as established through the following mutawatir narrations that this Quran which is in our hands has been subject to some alterations after the Prophet -SAW- , and those who compiled it have dropped many of the words and verses, and that the preserved Quran which is free from what is just mentioned and which is the same as what Allah -tala- Has revealed is what Ali -ahs- has compiled and preserved till it reached his son Al-Hassan -ahs- and so on till it reached Al-Qayem -ahs- and today it is with him "

He also said: " As for me that truth of this saying is clear after following the traditions and investigating the narrations such that it can be ruled that it is one of the essentials of the Shia Madhab and that it is one of the great corruptions arising from usurping the khilafah, so consider (this)" abid p. 49 (Compare this to fatwas that Angel quoted which states that belief that Quran is preserved is NOT one of the essentials of the Shia Madhab!!)

Al-Kulayni narrated from Jabir: I heard Abu Jafar say: " Whoever claims that he has compiled all of the Quran as revealed is a liar. It has only been compiled and preserved as Allah -tala- revealed by Ali Ibn Abi Taib and the Imams after him -alyhim Assalam-" (Usool Al-Kafi Vol 1 p.284, Basaer Al-Darajat p.213)

Haj Kareem Al-Kirmani in Irshad Al-Awad (p.221) said: " After emerging, Imam Mehdi would recite the Quran and say: O Muslims , by Allah, this is the real Quran that Allah -tala- has revealed to Muhammad"

Al-Kashani said in Hidayat Al-Talibeen p.368: " Utham ordered Zayd ibn Thabit, who was his friend and an enemy of Ali, to collect the Quran and omit the merits of Ahlul Bayt and the disparagment of their enemies, and the Quran which is present today in the hands of people and which is known as Mushaf Uthman is the same Quran that Uthman ordered to be compiled"

He also said in his Tafseer said after relating the traditions that show that the Quran has been altered: " What is acknowledged by all of these traditions and other narrations from the way of Ahlul Bayt is that the Quran which we have today is NOT as complete as has been revealed to Muhammad (pbuh) but some of it is contrary to what has been revealed , and some of it is changed and many things have been omitted from it such as the name of Ali in many places and some other things, and it is not in the order that is acceptable to Allah and His Messenger" [Tafseer Al-Safi Vol 1 p.49]

He also said: " Just as there has been motives for the believers to relate the Quran and preserve it, also there have been motives for it to be changed at the hands of the Munafiqs who changed the Wasiyah and altered the Khilafah because it contains what contradicts their view and desires. Alteration to it (i,e Quran), if it occured, then it only occured before being spread in the counrties and fixed as it is today" abid Vol 1 p. 54

And then he refuted this view by saying that if it was true we cannot depend on anything in the Quran , because all of it would be prone to alteration and contradicting what Allah has revealed. Then there would be no proof in the Quran for anyting and no use of following it and no meaning to the order to uphold to it.

Regarding the narration of Hisham Ibn Salim from Al-Sadiq: the Quran that Jibril brought to Muhammad (pbuh) is 17.000 verses. Al-Majlisi said: " This tradition is authentic and it cannot be hidden that this traditon and many more authentic traditons are explicit in (saying) that the Quran is missing and has changed. For me, (I believe) that the traditions have reached tawatur (i.e they are numerous) with regards to the meaning, and ignoring all of it would mean ignoring all traditions accordingly , but I think that the narrations in this meaning are not less than the narrations if Imamah so how do they confirm it using traditions?" Fasl Al-Khitab p.353 Mirat Al-Uqool Vol 12 p. 525

He also said: " Uthman has deleted three things: The virtues of Ali and his Ahl-e-Bayt, the dispraising of Quraish, the dispraising of the three Caliphs such as the verse: " Ah! woe is me! Would that I had never taken Abu Bakr for a friend!" Tathkirat Al-A'imah p.9

In this same book he listed the Surah of Wilayah which some 12er claims that Uthman -ra- has omitted from the Quran. It has also been mentioned in the Book Fasl Al-Khitab:

" O you who believe! Believe in the two lights who recite on you My verses and warn you the punishment of a great day. Two lights , they are from each other, and I am the All Hearing the All Knowing." and then: " Those who disbelieve after believeing by breaking their covenant and that which the Messenger have taken their pledge on will be casted in Hellfire. They have transgressed against themselves and disobeyed the Wasi of the Messenger, they will surely made to drink from boiling water" and then: " Ali is the of the God-fearing. We will fulfill his right on the Day of Judgment. We are not unaware of his oppression (i.e him being oppressed). Surely have we honoured him above all of your family. Him and his progeny are of the patient ones. Their enemies are the Imams of the evil-doers" and then: " We have brought the glad tidings by his pious progeny. They do not disobey our order. I bestow on them blessings from me, and Mercy while they are alive, while they are died and when they are resurrected. Those who come after you and oppress them , then on them is My wrath. They are people of evil , losers. And for those who follow them, I will bestow on them mercy and they will dwell secure in lofty halls. Praise be to Allah the Lord of the Worlds"

After rejecting the Sunni belief in the seven variant readings, Al-Bahrani said: What refutes their claim also is the numerous and ample traditions that the Quran is missing and (things) have been omitted from it which is the view of a group of our scholars both early and late" Al-Hadaiq Al-Nadhira Vol 8 p.10

In his commentary on the verse of Wudu and the Sunni reading "wa-arjulakum" indicating that feets are to be washed in wudu he said: It is not far-fetched to say that this (variant) reading, like other changes to the Glorious Quran since we affirm the changing and replacing both in addition and subtraction even though some of our fellow (Shia scholars) have claimed consensus in denying the former, but the traditions refute this (position) just as they have changed the saying of Allah -tala- in the verse of the Cave (i.e 9:40) to drive away disgrace from the Shiekh of the wicked ones (i.e Abu Bakr), for in our traditions it has been revealed as such: " then Allah sent down his peace upon His Messenger (i.e instead of upon him), and strengthened him with forces which ye saw not" so they omitted the phrase "His Messenger" and replaced it with the pronoun, and close to this , as has been mentioned by our scholars with regards to replacing, is placing the verse: " And Allah Only wishes to remove all abomination from you, ye Members of the Family, and to make you pure and spotless" amidst the (verses) addressing the wives" abid Vol 2. p289-90

Regarding the companions Al-khomeni said: " Their only concern was this world and to gain power rather than Islam and Quran. They took Quran as an excuse to acheive their corrupt intentions. It was easy for them to remove such verses from the Book of Allah (i.e verses indicating khilafah of Ali) and as such is the changing of the Heavenly Book, and distaning the Quran from the eyes of the world permanently, such that this would be a disgrace to Quran and Muslims till the Day of Judgment. The accusation of alteration that they direct towards Jews and Christians only applies to them" Kashf Al-Astar p.114

As is widely known, the principle that an Imaam has to be present at every point in time is central to the Shia faith. Among the Quraanic Verses that clearly refute this idea, we have:

[5:19] O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Now has come to you Our Messenger (Muhammad SAW) making (things) clear unto you, after a break in (the series of) Messengers, lest you say: "There came unto us no bringer of glad tidings and no warner." But now has come unto you a bringer of glad tidings and a warner. And Allah is Able to do all things.

The obvious thing any person can gather from this Verse is that Allah has sent Muhammad after a break in Messengers. Of course, this is very much accepted by all. However, the question becomes: If according to Shia ideology, an Infallible Imaam is supposed to be present at every point in time, then:

1. What is the big deal with there being a "break in Messengers", and why does Allah have to mention it ?

2. Again, why would the Jews and Christians be confused (clear from the phrase: lest you say: "There came unto us no bringer of glad tidings and no warner." ) without a Messenger, if it was their responsibility to recognize the proper Imaam of their time ?

Finally, in this respect, I would like to reiterate that the presence of an Imaam and his recognition is viewed as being more important in Shia circles than the presence of a Rasul/Nabi, then the existence of such Verses in the Quran is incomprehensible.

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