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Kiya Fadak Fatima(ra) ka haq tha?

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image006.gif Sab sy pehly jab koi topic shooro kiya jata hai to topic ka truf karaya jata hai aur apna bi.... Likhaza Maira taruf jo itna zaroori nahin short cut kay .... Main aik musalmaan hon just ....aur kuch nhain.... aur is topic "kiya Fadak Fatima(ra) ka khaq tha ???" kay baary main filkhaal itna hi kahon ga kay inshAllah aik aysee bakhs ho gi jo nukta-e-injaam tak pohanchy gi... kyon kay jab doono taraf sy freeqain Nateeja chahaty hon to inshAllah aik result tak pohancha ja sakta hai....

Ab pehly to main mazrat karta hon kay ye discussion main urdu main shoroo kar raha hon is ki waja aap mairi english main kamzoori samaj lein.... Likhaza is bakhs main wohi loog shamil hon jo urdu thoori buhat jaanty hain ya sahi jaanty hain....

Baat shooro karny sy pehly main chahta hon kay is bakhs kay kuch Rules bi bata don kyon kay main bkhas doosry loogon ki tara nahin karta.... Likhaza jo bi is bakhs main khisaa leena chahta hai pehly rules sahi pary aur phir request kay un par ammal kary .. agr aap sathiyon ny maira saath diya to inshAllah kafi bahtri ho gi.....

Rule No: 1

Is bakhs main woo loog khissa lein gay jo kay acha knowledge rakhty hain......

Rule No: 2

mujy na shiya samja jay aur na sunni balky aik musalmaan samj kar baat ki jay..... aur na main koi tanziya alfaaz use karon ga na aap main sy koi..... Na koi gali na hi kisi bi person ki tazleel.... na main shaba ko bura bala kahon ga na aap kisi immam ya kisi doosry maslak kay person ko.....

Rule No: 3

Bkhas ko dooran ither uther ki batein nahin ki jaein gi bas asal moozo ko samny rakha jay ga aur jo bkhas kay asal mozo sy khaty ga to usy sahti sy khidayat ki jay gi kay asal mozo ko mad-e-nazar rakha jay.....

Rule No: 4 Bakhs ka injaam jo bi ho is bakhs ko informative samja jay ga na kay kisi ko neecha dekhna is ka maqsad ho ga....

Rule No: 5

Jon hi foroum kay 3 sathiyon ki tarf sy jawab ayyeee ga (tadad) ziyada bi ho sakty hai kam bi) to bakhs ka baqaida aghaaz ho ga... Sawal mairi tarf sy shooroo ho ga.... aur agar main chhon to aap kay kisi jawab ko ye kahty huy aagy bi ja sakta hon kay mairy paas aap ky is swal ka jawb nahin kyon kay maira ilm naqas hai.....

Umeed hai ziyada sy ziyada ilm rakhny waly is bakhs main khisaa lein gay.....

Jazak Allah .....

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^Agar aap ko engraiziy likna aathi hai tho pir engraiziy istimaal karro. Urdu ko kam istimaal kiya jaata hai iss forum parr kiyo ke aksar member sirf engraiziy hi samajtay hai.

If you can write in English please use that for future posts as not many here understand urdu (in detail) or can carry on a discussion in the language such that all members may benefit from it.

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^Agar aap ko engraiziy likna aathi hai tho pir engraiziy istimaal karro. Urdu ko kam istimaal kiya jaata hai iss forum parr kiyo ke aksar member sirf engraiziy hi samajtay hai.

If you can write in English please use that for future posts as not many here understand urdu (in detail) or can carry on a discussion in the language such that all members may benefit from it.

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image006.gif Brother agar mairy english achi hooti to main zaroor is topic ko english main shooro karta... ab bi main kar sakta hon magr us sy maira maqsad foot ho jay ga... main janta hon kay abhi bi kuch aysee members hain is group mian jo kafi ilm rakhty hain aur thoori buhat urdu bi janty hain main unhein welcome karta hon...

Speciaaly FAteh Momin , Umer Bin khatab , Sipahe Sahab, perplexed (if u) ...

Main aap sab aur doosry loogon kay views ka intizaar kar rha hon us kay baad baqaida bakhas shooro ho gi.......

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^Agar aap ko engraiziy likna aathi hai tho pir engraiziy istimaal karro. Urdu ko kam istimaal kiya jaata hai iss forum parr kiyo ke aksar member sirf engraiziy hi samajtay hai.

If you can write in English please use that for future posts as not many here understand urdu (in detail) or can carry on a discussion in the language such that all members may benefit from it.

Thanks

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Can you type in the same note for people that are using other languages like German in other threads?

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^Agar aap ko engraiziy likna aathi hai tho pir engraiziy istimaal karro. Urdu ko kam istimaal kiya jaata hai iss forum parr kiyo ke aksar member sirf engraiziy hi samajtay hai.

If you can write in English please use that for future posts as not many here understand urdu (in detail) or can carry on a discussion in the language such that all members may benefit from it.

Thanks

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Can you type in the same note for people that are using other languages like German in other threads?

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Sab sy pehly Fateh bhai aap ka shukriya jawb deeny ka ... aur us kay baad perplexed shab aap doosry loogon ko bi yhan baat karny kay liye bolaein jo kay urdu janty hain aur phir baat aagy bary... Rahi baat Logic shab ki to main un ki baat sy mutafik hon kay kai threads main uar zabano main baat ho sakty hai to phir yhan bi inshAllah urdu main ho sakty hai....

Aaj foroum kay doosry loogon ka intizaar karny sy pehly main ye batta chalon ka discussion ka aghaaz kahan sy ho ga aur pehly marhaly main kiya baat discuss ki jay gi.???

Jee han sab sy pehly marhaly main Khadess Lanoras par bakhs ki jaey gi kay kiya waqai wo khadees drust thi ya nahin... Is baat par mairi tarf sy bi dalail ayen gay aur aap ki tarf sy bi mgar Main intizaar karta hon ka Fateh Shab aur Perplexed Sahab kitny urdu janny walon ka yahan madoo karty hain... Main aik do rooz tak intizaar karon ga....

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Bhai aap intezar na fermaiyah dalieel post kar dain, humay jawab danay mein koch din lag jaein gay.

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Janab e Wala, is website per zadater loog pakistan se atay hain ya phir pakistani hain ... lehazah aap ka thread perha jayee ga aur hasb-e-toufeeq is mein hissa bhi lia jaye ga ...

lehazah aap Bismillah karein InshaAllah loog khud hi chalain aaye gay...

FeAman Allah

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Sab sy pehly un tamam logon ka shukriya jinhon ny mujy akhsaasdalaya kay ab baat shooro ki jay aur loogon ka bi shukriya jinhon ny is page ko visit kiya.... Ab main mazeed ither other ki batein karny ki bajay asal mozo par aata hon

Topic tha "Kiya Fadak Fatima(ra) ka khaq tha???"

Is mozo ko shoro karty huy jo baat sab sy pehly aati hai wo asal main wo khadess hai jisy "khadees lanoras" ka naam bi diya gya hai .... ye khadess Abu Bakr( ra) ..... (main khar shahs ka akhtarm mukhalif kay nazriyee ka mutabik karon ga) ....... Jab Hazrat Fatima(ra) ny aap kay samny Fadak ka matalba kiya to Abu Bkar(ra) ny jawab diya kay NAbi(saw) ki khadees mubarik hai kay "Kham grohe Ambiya na meeras leety hain na hi meeras choorty hain" ....

YAhi wo ikhtalaf hai jo Musalmano ko do garohon main bant deeta hai...

KHmara nazriya hai kay Amnbiya kay waris hooty hain... aur Abu Bakr(ra) ny jo khadees pesh ki wo ghalt thi....

Ye hai Wo baat jis par bakhs ka ghaaz ho ga ... main ye sabit karny ki koshish karon ga kay peghanmabr Maal ko wirsy main deety hain aur leety hain.......

Mairy Dalail....

Daleel No: 1

[/color][/color]Agar Anmbiya meeras na leety hain aur na choorty hain to Quran main Hazrat DAood aur Sulimaan ki wirasat sy moorad kiya hai image001.gif

Quran aik aur maqam par surat Maryam ki pehli ayaat main waziha irshaad farmata hai kay zakriya (ra) Allah tala sy aik waris ka mutaba kar rahy hain .... Shahid aap ka jawab ye ho kay wo Ilm kay liyee waris maang rahy thy to ayat is baat ko jutla rahi hai kyon k ayat main waziha hai kay unhein apny Jahil rishty daron sy dar tha.... Zahri baat hai ye dar maal ka hi ho sakta hai na kay Ilm ka.. image001.gif

Daleel No: 2

Agar Anmbiya meeras leety hi nahin to mujy ye batyee kay Hazrat Um-e-Eman jo NAbi(saw) ki loondi thein aur RAsool(saw) kay Aba sy Rasool(saw) ki meeras main ayein thein ... Unhein NAbi(saw) ny meeras main kyon liyaa image001.gif

DAleel No:3

Agar waqi Amnbiya na meeras leety hain aur na deety hain to mujy ye batya jay kay Nabi(saw) ki biwiyan jin gharon main mukeem thein wo ghar Kis kay Thay image001.gif Khar Koi Janta hai kay wo Ghar Nabi(saw) kay hi thy to kiya aap batein gay kay jab Fatima (ra) sy FAdk cheen liya gya to Biwiyon sy kyon na cheena gya kiya aysaa karny sy kahein un ki apni hi beetiyon sy gharon kay chin jany ki baat to samny nahin thi image001.gif Kiya is sy Apny uqraba sy mukhabt aur Akhly Beet sy kholoo adawat jahir nahin hooti image001.gif

Daleel No:4

RAsool(saw) kay paas jo ghooro thy jis main sy aik ka naam murtajas bi tha wo tak Imaam Husain (as) kay paas tha wo kysaa un tak pohancha image001.gif

Aap sab loogon sy jawabaat ka intizaar rahy ga... mgar aik baat doobara yaad dalaon ga ka jawab deeny sy pehly Oper biyaan karda Rules zahn main rakh li jiyee ga aur jawab siorf usi baat ka diya jay jitna Sawl kiya gya hai... aur ho saky to mukhalif ki kitabon sy khawaly dein aur khawala deety waqt sirf refrence na dein balky poori wo qoutation qoute karein jo aap biyaan karna chhaty hain.......

Jawabat ka intizaarrahy ga... Mgar Mudalal Jawabat ka....

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aap Bismillah karein InshaAllah loog khud hi chalain aaye gay...

FeAman Allah

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Janab main ny bismillah kar di hai ab intizaar rahy ga..... Jawab ka...

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Aap ne jin Quran ki ayat ka reference diya hai uska Ayat aur Surah # kya hai?

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Aap ne jin Quran ki ayat ka reference diya hai uska Ayat aur Surah # kya hai?

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Dear brother main pehly hi bata chuka hon kay surat maryam ki awleen ayaat haein... 4 aur agy ki ayat Quran ko open karein aur verse par lein.....

Jazak Allah

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Hey Me Here tooooooo..!!

say welcome guyzzzzzzzzz

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Hey Me Here tooooooo..!!

say welcome guyzzzzzzzzz

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Waslam brothr!

Main aap ki is discussion main welcome karta hon mgar plz is discussion kay kuch rules main ny chuny hain umeed hai aap un par hi chal kar discussion main shareek hon gay

JAzak Allah.

Still waiting for reply from "Fateh" ,,, "Sipahe- Sahaba", "Umer Bin KHatab" and other nice one....

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