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Kia Imam Ali ki padaish kaba kay ander hoee

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Shiaoon ka imaan hai kay kaba ki dewaar phati aur un kay Imam Ali ki walda us say kaba kay under dakhil hoeen aur teen rose tak under raheen, makkah kay loggoon nay dirwaza kholnay ki bohaat koshish ki, aakhir mein jab dirwaza khola to fatima imam Ali kay sath bahir aeen. Yeh mojza saray makkah nay dekha. Shia yeh behi mantay hein kay pedaish kay waqt imam Ali sajdah kar rahay thay.

Kia yeh shiaoon ka aqeedah hai?

PS: When I am discussing Imam Ali I do not mean Ameerul Momineen Hz. Ali[ra]

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Shia baagh giya imam kay naam per kia koi shia harf utnay per tahfuz nahi karay ga?

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kia imam Ali paydaish kay waqt sajdah kar rahay tahey?

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salam

Fatah for this i have already told that i have not seen any riwait for this sajda any where..

but if you says i beilieve

wassalam

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kia imam Ali paydaish kay waqt sajdah kar rahay tahey?

TUM YE BATAAO KIA TUM KO BUGHAZE ALI HI CHUPE RUSTEM NAY SARI RIWAYAT SAY SABIT KIA JUB TUM US K SAAMNY KUCH NA BOL SAKY TO MAIN NA MANNOO HAAR WALA KISA TO KOI BAAT GOL KAR K DUSRI BAAT SHURU KAR DI>

MAIN NAY NAHI SUNA KOI RIWAYAT LAKIN KIA TUM YE BATAO K JUB NABI PAIDA HUWY TO UNHON NAY SAJDA KIA AGAR NABI S.A NAY SAJDA KIA HO GA TO LAZMAN ALI NAY B KIA HO GA.

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Kia tum shia agree kar tay ho kay Imam Ali ki padaish Kaba kay under hoi? to tum yeh bhi agree karoo gay kay us waqt Kaba kay under buat[idols] tahay, is ka matlab yeh howa kay imam ki padaish buatoon kay darmian hoi, aur agar imam sajdah ki halat main thay to yeh sajadh kisy na kisy buat kay samnay howa. Ab ja kay apnay Zakiroon, ayatoolas aur alamaoon say poocho kay imam kahan paida howa?

yah iran shia site ka image hia jis main likha hai kay sajdahy ki halat main paida howay, aur yeh sajda kaba kay under howa, kaba kay under her dewaar per buat[idols] tahay, to zahir hai imam nay buat ko sajdah kia.

shiaoon ki tareeqh say yeh bhi zahir hai kay rasoolAllah[saw] nay Imam Ali ko apnay qandoohn per utah kay kaba kay under kay toray thay fatah-e-makkah kay waqt [naouzobillah/astaghfirrul, is baat per yaqeen rakhnay wal kafir hai]

Is say sabit howa kay shiaoon kay Imam nay Buatoon ko sajdah kia

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>>shiaoon ki ghirti hoee dewaar ko iak dhika aur doo<

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>>shiaoon ki ghirti hoee dewaar ko iak dhika aur doo<

Shah Waliullah, Mohadith-e-Dehlvi writes in the book

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Kia tum shia agree kar tay ho kay Imam Ali ki padaish Kaba kay under hoi? to tum yeh bhi agree karoo gay kay us waqt Kaba kay under buat[idols] tahay, is ka matlab yeh howa kay imam ki padaish buatoon kay darmian hoi, aur agar imam sajdah ki halat main thay to yeh sajadh kisy na kisy buat kay samnay howa. Ab ja kay apnay Zakiroon, ayatoolas aur alamaoon say poocho kay imam kahan paida howa?

yah iran shia site ka image hia jis main likha hai kay sajdahy ki halat main paida howay, aur yeh sajda kaba kay under howa, kaba kay under her dewaar per buat[idols] tahay, to zahir hai imam nay buat ko sajdah kia.

shiaoon ki tareeqh say yeh bhi zahir hai kay rasoolAllah[saw] nay Imam Ali ko apnay qandoohn per utah kay kaba kay under kay toray thay fatah-e-makkah kay waqt [naouzobillah/astaghfirrul, is baat per yaqeen rakhnay wal kafir hai]

Is say sabit howa kay shiaoon kay Imam nay Buatoon ko sajdah kia

Hum to agree karty hain k Hazrat ALI A.S Kaaba main paida huwy lakin kia tum is baat say agree karo gay k fatha MAKKA say pahly bohat si riwayat k mutabik NABI S.W kaba main jaa kar ibaadat karty thay to is ka matlab hi NAOUZBILLAH nabi bhi BUT POOJTAY thay.

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KABA KIS MUN SAY JAO GAY NASBIO

SHARM TUM KO MAGAR NAHI AATI

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Shah Waliullah, Mohadith-e-Dehlvi writes in the book "Izalatul Kholafa" giving reference from Imam Hakim in his Mustadrak Part 3, Page 483. Qud Tawatarul Akhbar Inna Fatimah Binte Asad woledat Aliyan Fi Jaufil Kaaba". Another writer of the old school Sibtel Jauzi in his book Tazkeratul Khawas ul Umma, page 7 mentions the same fact that Ali was born inside the Kaaba.

Khawja Moinuddin Chishti Ajmeri mentions this fact in his famous Quartet saying that when Ali was born inside the kaaba the Sky and the earth was filled with a light and Angel Gabril announced that a child was born in the house of God.

Maulan Rume in his Mathnawi writes, " O'one who travels to Najef to visit the tomb of Ali must know the fact that the pearl of the Kaaba lies there to give us security because of our intense love for him."

Masoodi the famous historian writes in his book of history Muruj el Zahab, that Ali was born inside the Kaaba on the orders of Muhammad the Messenger of God

Kaba kay tareekh main sirif iak insaan Kaba kay ander paiday howa

Birth of 'Ali in the Ka'bah?

[Which of the Companions Lived 120 years]

In reply to the statement:

"The idea was to show that Imam Ali's birth in the Ka'bah was a great virtue [for him]"

It is not authentically reported that Sayyiduna `Ali - - was born in the Ka`ba.

However, it is firmly established that the Companion Hakim ibn Hizam ibn Khuwaylid ibn `Abd al-`Uzza ibn Qusay al-Qurashi was born in the Ka`ba, as Imam Muslim stated in his Sahih (Kitab al-Buyu`, Bab al-Sidq fi al-Bay` wa al-Bayan). See also al-Hakim, Mustadrak (1990 ed. 3:549) and Ibn Hajar, al-Isaba (#1802).

Hakim ibn Hizam is the first entry in Ibn Mandah's remarkable book, Man `

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iss mein kon si ajeeb baat hai ?? Hazrat Eesa a.s baghiar baao k paida ho saktay hain...paida hotay hi bol saktay hain...Hazrat Adam a.s baghair baap k paida ho saktay hain..Hazrat Hawa a.s aik mard ki pasli se paida ho sakti hain..to Mola Ali a.s ka tum yeh to mantay ho k Woh Allah k ghar mein paida huay...uss se pehlay na koi aur hua aur na hi koi aur ho ga...to kiya Allah jab unhain apnay ghar mein paida ker sakta ahi to sajda kerna to mamooli baat hai...

aur aap ki iss jahilana baat k jawab mein aik sawal karon ga...k jab Khana Kaaba per hamla kernay k liye aik foaj aaye lakin Allah ne unn ko parindon se tabah ker diya..to ab aap yeh kehna chaho ge k Allah ne wahan per paray pathar k butoan ki hifazat k liye yeh sab kiya ??

Hz. Isa[as] ka Imam Ali say kia talooq? Aik Allah ka rasool Doosara tum loogoon kay damak ka khiali ijaad.

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Tum joohut ki paidaish ho, such tum loogon nay seekha nahi, jaab such samnay ata hai to tum jasay jahil aur joohtay cheekh ut tay hein, jahil insaan ja aur kitabain par, apnay joohtay bap dada ki nahi.

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jahan tak Allah[swt] nay Kaba ki hifazat ki, Allah nay Kaba ki eemarat ki hifazat ki buatoon ki nahi. Tum shiaoon nay her baat ko doosra rang day kar apnay joohut to such sabit karnay ki koshish kartay ho, is say hi shia joohtay sabit ho tay hein jahil insaan.

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Yeh tum Abu talib say poocho jo in buatoon ki hifazat kia kar ta tah.

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