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Hazrat Umar [RA] ka Nikkah Hazrat Umm-e-Kalsoom [RA] bint-e-Hazrat Ali [RA]

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Shio! jaisa k tum Hazrat Umar [RA] ko Nauzubillah KAFIR aur MURTID kehtay ho aur Hazrat Ali [RA] ko apna RABB, MOLA, IMAM aur MUSHKIL KUSHA mantay ho aur ye aqeeda rakhtay ho k IMAM masoom hota hai aur us say koi ghalti sar-zad nahi hoti to Hazrat Ali [RA] nay itni sangeen ghalti kiun ki aur apni lakht-e-jigar Hazrat Umm-e-Kalsoom [RA] ka Nikkah (baqol tumharay aik KAFIR aur MURTID) Hazrat Umar [RA] Nauzubillah se kiun kia? Kya koi Shia Ahl-e-Bayt nahi mila tha ???

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Chalein koi to aaya "Es par One on One debate karte hai"

Aap reewayat paish kare Shia Kutub se jis ka jawaab hum aap ko deinge...

Aur phir reply aisa hona chaheye jo Sub ko cover kare!!

Yanee Hum aap ko Ahle Sunnat ki keetaaboun se bhi proof deinge Chunache hume hur cheez ka tafseel se jawaab chaheye aur Aap pehle Reewayat Shia Kutub se paisha kare phir hum reply kareinge...

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Chalein koi to aaya "Es par One on One debate karte hai"

Aap reewayat paish kare Shia Kutub se jis ka jawaab hum aap ko deinge...

Aur phir reply aisa hona chaheye jo Sub ko cover kare!!

Yanee Hum aap ko Ahle Sunnat ki keetaaboun se bhi proof deinge Chunache hume hur cheez ka tafseel se jawaab chaheye aur Aap pehle Reewayat Shia Kutub se paisha kare phir hum reply kareinge...

Hamein is se bari koi aur daleel nahi chahiye. Beherhal, meray paas filhal Shia k neechay diye gye hawalay ka scan mojood nahi hai, mai nay apnay dost ko keh dia hai k wo jitna jald ho sakay iska scan muje bhaij de, jaisay hi mila zarur attach karun ga. Filhal iska textual reference ye hai:

al-Mas

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Hamein is se bari koi aur daleel nahi chahiye. Beherhal, meray paas filhal Shia k neechay diye gye hawalay ka scan mojood nahi hai, mai nay apnay dost ko keh dia hai k wo jitna jald ho sakay iska scan muje bhaij de, jaisay hi mila zarur attach karun ga. Filhal iska textual reference ye hai:

al-Mas'alah al-Muwaddihah 'an Asbab Nikah Amir al-Mu'minin

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Der Key Marey Nikah Ker Dia ? TAQAYA kee Ismien Kia zaroret Pesh A gaye ?

sotey wakt taqya , khilafat mien taqayah , nikah mien taqyah , peley 123 kee zindgi mien taqyah , kuch or bhee kia tha unon ney apki kitab key mutabik ya sari umer taqayah kee tableg kee ?

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salam

Aisha was the elder sister of Umm Kulthum binte Abu Bakr, for this reason Omar had sent for Umm Kulthum hand's to Aisha, and Aisha had accepted this.

*Kanzul Ummal Vol 7 Page 97

*Al-Bidayah wal Nihayah Vol 7 Page 139 written by Ibn Kathir

*Tarikh e Kamil Vol 3 Page 27 written by Ibn Asir Jazri

*Tarikh e Tabri Vol 5 Page 2734 written by Ibn Jareer Tibari

*Tarikh e Khamees by Dyar Bakri Vol 2 Page 239

*Al-Muaraf Page 76

*Riyadhul Nadhira Fi Manaqib e Ashara Mubashra Vol 1 Page 303 written by Muhid e Tabri

*Sharh e Ibn Abil Hadid Vol 2 Page 231

*Al Istiab by Ibn Abdul Barr Volume 2 page 795

All the books says that

Umar dreamed to marry umme kulsoom binte abi baker and proposed for her to Aisha

wassalam

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Look Discussion in Urdu or English first decide this?

Ab Mai aap se Reewayaat ka poch raha houn,Imamia Ulma ka es baat par ettefaaq hai k Hazrat Umar(RA) aur Umme Kulsoom ki shaadi nahee hoie thee...Aue Majority ka yahee aqeeda magar kuch Imamia Ulma es baat ka Qail hai k Maula Ali(as) ne Umme Kulsoom(as) ki Shaadi Hazrat Umar(RA) k sath Taqayyah mai kari..

Chunache jab 2 Qaul ki aik dosre se Mutabiqat na ho to phir Sahil ka chaheye k wo khud tehqeeq karein chunachein mai Ulma K qaul k bare mai daryaaf nahee kar raha bal k Reewayaat k Muntazir houn??

Hope this would be helpfull

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Look Discussion in Urdu or English first decide this?

Ab Mai aap se Reewayaat ka poch raha houn,Imamia Ulma ka es baat par ettefaaq hai k Hazrat Umar(RA) aur Umme Kulsoom ki shaadi nahee hoie thee...Aue Majority ka yahee aqeeda magar kuch Imamia Ulma es baat ka Qail hai k Maula Ali(as) ne Umme Kulsoom(as) ki Shaadi Hazrat Umar(RA) k sath Taqayyah mai kari..

Chunache jab 2 Qaul ki aik dosre se Mutabiqat na ho to phir Sahil ka chaheye k wo khud tehqeeq karein chunachein mai Ulma K qaul k bare mai daryaaf nahee kar raha bal k Reewayaat k Muntazir houn??

I hope these are reliable refernces from your texts... what do u say?

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salam

Aisha was the elder sister of Umm Kulthum binte Abu Bakr, for this reason Omar had sent for Umm Kulthum hand's to Aisha, and Aisha had accepted this.

*Kanzul Ummal Vol 7 Page 97

*Al-Bidayah wal Nihayah Vol 7 Page 139 written by Ibn Kathir

*Tarikh e Kamil Vol 3 Page 27 written by Ibn Asir Jazri

*Tarikh e Tabri Vol 5 Page 2734 written by Ibn Jareer Tibari

*Tarikh e Khamees by Dyar Bakri Vol 2 Page 239

*Al-Muaraf Page 76

*Riyadhul Nadhira Fi Manaqib e Ashara Mubashra Vol 1 Page 303 written by Muhid e Tabri

*Sharh e Ibn Abil Hadid Vol 2 Page 231

*Al Istiab by Ibn Abdul Barr Volume 2 page 795

All the books says that

Umar dreamed to marry umme kulsoom binte abi baker and proposed for her to Aisha

wassalam

:-) Ur concern has been answerd in my post, historicans have clearly distinguised between umme kalsoom bint e abu bakar and umme kalsooom binte fatima...

Jazak Allah ho kahirannn.....

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salam

Aisha was the elder sister of Umm Kulthum binte Abu Bakr, for this reason Omar had sent for Umm Kulthum hand's to Aisha, and Aisha had accepted this.

*Kanzul Ummal Vol 7 Page 97

*Al-Bidayah wal Nihayah Vol 7 Page 139 written by Ibn Kathir

*Tarikh e Kamil Vol 3 Page 27 written by Ibn Asir Jazri

*Tarikh e Tabri Vol 5 Page 2734 written by Ibn Jareer Tibari

*Tarikh e Khamees by Dyar Bakri Vol 2 Page 239

*Al-Muaraf Page 76

*Riyadhul Nadhira Fi Manaqib e Ashara Mubashra Vol 1 Page 303 written by Muhid e Tabri

*Sharh e Ibn Abil Hadid Vol 2 Page 231

*Al Istiab by Ibn Abdul Barr Volume 2 page 795

All the books says that

Umar dreamed to marry umme kulsoom binte abi baker and proposed for her to Aisha

wassalam

In response to ur this post, by which u probably meant that Hazrat Umme Kalsoom R.A we are refering is Umme Kalsoom bin e Abi Bakar R.A., I told u to read my above posted two posts which clearly talk about Hazrat Umme Kalsoom bin Fatima R.A and in the first attachment having two pages, in the first page and second para the writer has clearly adreesed by saying that historicans have clearly distinguished between two Umme Kalsoom R.A in Hazrat Umar R.A nikkah....

Hope u get my point this time....

Jazaak Allah ho khairaan.....

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salam

where?

wassalam

Please read above for the reply....

Jazaak Allah

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Matlab

Der Key Marey Nikah Ker Dia ? TAQAYA kee Ismien Kia zaroret Pesh A gaye ?

sotey wakt taqya , khilafat mien taqayah , nikah mien taqyah , peley 123 kee zindgi mien taqyah , kuch or bhee kia tha unon ney apki kitab key mutabik ya sari umer taqayah kee tableg kee ?

Topic Taqayyah nahee!!

Topic hai "Kya Janabe Umar ki Shaadi Hazrat Umme Kulsoom(as) se hoie ya nahee?"

Ab Zara es par guftugu ho to acha hai warna aik alug topic banien Taqayyah par aur phir os par guftugu karte hai!!

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Ab Topic ko agae barhane se pehle mera aik sawaal hai wo ye k "Janabe Umar ne jo Shadia kari un ki Biwioun mai kitni Umme Kulsoom thee??"

Es ka jawaab dejeeye ta k guftugu ko aur asaan banaya jaie....

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Ab Topic ko agae barhane se pehle mera aik sawaal hai wo ye k "Janabe Umar ne jo Shadia kari un ki Biwioun mai kitni Umme Kulsoom thee??"

Es ka jawaab dejeeye ta k guftugu ko aur asaan banaya jaie....

Yaar aap to sensible banday ho, mufti walay kaam aap karo gay to phir hum ghoomtay he rahain gay kuch hasil ni ho ga.... Mai na jo pages aap ko scan kar k bhaijay hain us main wazhay likha hay k dosri Umme Kalsoom R.A aur thin, tareekh danoo nai waziah toor pay farq kia hay un mai aur Umme Kalsoom bint e Fatima R.A mai.... App na jaisay farmaya k aik Umme Kasloom Hazrat Abu Bakar R.A ke beti thin to jis dosri Umme Kalsoom R.A ke baat aap kar rahay hain wo Umme Kaslsoom R.A binte Abu BAKAR R.A ho gee.....

Aap kay sawal k jawab yeah hay k 2 Umme Kalsoom thin R.A. jin ka hawala uper dia ja chuka hay...

Jazak Allah ho khairan

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